I regularly run 10 sites on a M1 Air with 8GB and near leave the green.
Well maybe 10 sites with just text.
Never claimed 16GB would be pushed, just that you could easily show 16GB isn't enough.
No, you implied its just as easy to show that 16GB is not enough, I disagree with that as it would be way harder to show that 16GB is not enough vs the way he showed 8GB is not enough.
Easy, Open 2 Parallels VMs; and a few tabs on browsers. Pushed my 16GB M1Pro into red. Would that bring an M1 Air with 8GB to its knees? Sure, but most users down run 1, let alone 2, VMS.
You think? you can allocate how much RAM you want to those VMs so I can do what you say without reaching the limit of 16GB. And I don't see how using VMs is valid in this discussion, if this is the only thing you could think about for pushing 16GB, then it's actually testament to the fact that it's not easy at all, anyway not as easy as with 8GB that is brought to it's knees just by having a browser and another app opened.
Irrelevant. The point is cos of components are not what ultimately drives selling price.
So you don't know even if you act like you do. I asked for concrete data taking in consideration how much you insisted with it but you don't actually know.
You claim it is a ripoff, but that's BS. I'd say the same thing - they are doing what for profit companies do and if you don't like the value buy something else.
No its not BS at all it an objective reality, Apple's RAM and Storage prices are way way higher than anything on the market. I can buy a 1TB M.2 Nvme drive for 50$. How much does it cost to upgrade to 1T on an Apple computer?
Anyway here are some RAM prices(Apple most likely gets bulk discounts anyway) just to make it crystal clear how much of a ripoff it is:
SDRAM - LPDDR5 DRAM are available at Mouser Electronics. Mouser offers inventory, pricing, & datasheets for SDRAM - LPDDR5 DRAM.
www.mouser.com
You keep claiming that yet the examples you show do not support that for many users.
I'm the only one here that showed any proof here, your confidence for writing this amuses me. Anyway:
8GB vs 16GB on the MacBook Pro's M3 CPU
www.tomshardware.com
So? what excuses will you make now?
Says you, but many users no doubt disagree. If it wasn't Apple would not be able to sell as many as the do nor would people keep them as long as they do.
Many more agree with me.
No, the point is if the wheels get you where you need to go without issues then the extra HP is wasted. If you need better wheels, buy them when you buy the car.
Nonsense. Also any car can get you where you need to go. My example was about how the overall capabilities can be limited by 1 simple thing that can be easily fixed.
You assume simple because the power potential is tehre it is needed by every user; which is not the case.
Of course, especially the potential is intentionally limited by a bad decision from a manufacturer, that objectively looks bad in the eyes of any costumer.
Nice strawman. If they want it they can buy it, but they have options to avoid paying for storage the may not need.
My experience helping people is while they think they have a storage issue, a little looking around reveals they have a storage management issue. I'm guilty of that at times as well.
How exactly do you expect me to answer to your ridiculous claims that people should force themselves to cope with 256GB storage and you accusing people that keep photos on their computers that it's their fault 256Gb is not enough?
You remind me of those that were defending 8GB iphones in an age when even phones less than half the price had 16GB.
Again, I call BS. If that were the case, the 8/256 would not sell but they appear to be doing just fine.
Well it sells because of people like you, which give bad advices to other users that unfortunately don't know better and also because there no real competition in the MacOS market.
Tech folks agonize over specs that have no relevance to most normal users.
Yeah the "specs don't matter" cliche, well of course when they aren't in Apples favor, because when they are, then they do matter.
It's simple economics - if you don't like a price, vote with your wallet. That the base Air sells fine says many users do not share your opinion.
Well people make mistakes all the time, at least some realize it.
Windows vs Mac is hardly a valid comparison, and the real question is does swap impact the average user? The answer to that is no, so extra memory adds cost and raises prices with no tangible benefit.
You may need 16/512 (I actually have 36/1TB) but most users don't, despite click bait web site comparisons.
Yeah it's a valid comparison only when Macs win or when Apple fans think Macs are better, when it's proven not to be the case then of course it's not a valid comparison🤣
Anyway don't you have anything to say about the performance the Macbook lost when using 2 apps at the same time? Do you think it's OK for an 1100$ 2024 computer? What about the fact the the only time it didn't use swap was in idle?
