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I've used CarPlay for years in my BMW. Why is the Apple Music implementation in a Tesla demonstrably worse? I realize there might be some niche differences like 'oh I can only see 100 songs on my playlist' or similar. But for ever person annoyed by that behavior in a Tesla, there is someone else that appreciates the bigger screen and/or more info displayed on the Tesla screen vs. even the biggest CarPlay screen available today.
it’s not as easy to control the Music app for playing songs loaded on the phone - Carplay is best for that
the size of screen doesn’t help
 
While it is nice to be using the FSD update for the last few days, I still think I would rather have Apple Music, which I will have to wait for, for a few more months.:mad:
 
it’s not as easy to control the Music app for playing songs loaded on the phone - Carplay is best for that
the size of screen doesn’t help
Nothing better than physical mechanical buttons because drivers memorize their place and can feel them with hands without looking. No need to look on screens and swipe things. Can keep eyes on the road. FSD never going to happen will always be assisted. Even airplane auto pilot has to be assisted. Even trains on tracks have to be assisted.
 
While it is nice to be using the FSD update for the last few days, I still think I would rather have Apple Music, which I will have to wait for, for a few more months.:mad:
Apparently there’s an update to FSD that has Apple Music that’s starting to go out. So maybe next week?

Been trying out FSD the past week and it’s…scary. Can’t even make the first turn on to the main road without needing an intervention.
 
Nothing better than physical mechanical buttons because drivers memorize their place and can feel them with hands without looking. No need to look on screens and swipe things. Can keep eyes on the road. FSD never going to happen will always be assisted. Even airplane auto pilot has to be assisted. Even trains on tracks have to be assisted.
I don’t buy the idea that buttons are intrinsically better
plenty of bad design involving them
I’d prefer hardly ever needing to use any extra controls while driving
I have no desire to use FSD
 
Apparently there’s an update to FSD that has Apple Music that’s starting to go out. So maybe next week?

Been trying out FSD the past week and it’s…scary. Can’t even make the first turn on to the main road without needing an intervention.
the operating system update is already out
see discussion above over past two or three days
 
I don’t buy the idea that buttons are intrinsically better
plenty of bad design involving them
I’d prefer hardly ever needing to use any extra controls while driving
I have no desire to use FSD

They are intrinsically better in the same way your physical keyboard is better than a software keyboard if you are a touch typist and don’t want to keep looking at the keys.
 
No--full self driving can't work with a third party app (and I wouldn't want it to) and Apple Maps can't tell me how many miles I will have left when I reach a Supercharger (let alone my mileage as I drive to it).

I think people who complain about a lack of CarPlay know nothing about Teslas.
The original reason people who complained about lack of CarPlay now that point is made moot with this update.
 
They are intrinsically better in the same way your physical keyboard is better than a software keyboard if you are a touch typist and don’t want to keep looking at the keys.
More like a Blackberry with keyboard vs. iPhone.

No reason to take up space in the car with a plastic button that gets pressed once per year.
 
Does it show up in the Favorites/Recent part though? That is where mine is missing in Apple Music. It shows up when I go into Apple Music under the song or album.
Hey, I do not see a tab/button/menu for favorites/recents when in Apple Music. When IN Spotify, I do have that menu option.
 
With reference to the Reddit thread, didn’t we already know that streaming Apple Music on non-native platforms (win10/11) for example was web-based and at the low end of the bitrates? I’m sure I saw this discussed in the Apple based websites / forums. It’s not ideal but again, we are in the car with noise and distractions…even also with Musk saying the cars had “premium” speakers/amps/subs?


I’ll still take it, it wasn’t there in 2019 when I bought my car. It’s the least of my concerns right now about Tesla.

Happy Holidays everyone ✌️
 
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Actually resubscribed to premium connectivity after the Apple Music release. I think it's worth it to have a dedicated interface on the car for it and not do everything off my phone.
 
The original reason people who complained about lack of CarPlay now that point is made moot with this update.
Not entirely. My phone is my personal information hub. I would prefer to bring that into the car via CarPlay than piecemeal replace a couple of aspects of it on the car. I can use my preferred Overcast podcast app on Carplay. Where is it on Tesla? I have my contacts and locations integrated and can use Apple Maps on CarPlay. On Tesla, I have to reset up locations on a separate mapping system. When I use CarPlay everything is brought in. I don’t have to depend on an outside system.
 
Apparently there’s an update to FSD that has Apple Music that’s starting to go out. So maybe next week?

Been trying out FSD the past week and it’s…scary. Can’t even make the first turn on to the main road without needing an intervention.
Agree that it can be scary, but overall it is pretty good. Haven't tried center city Philly yet. That will be a challenge. The problem is that we all have our ways of getting around, and FSD doesn't think like we do, which is why I didn't get high scores while waiting for Beta.
 


Car manufacturer Tesla last week rolled out a holiday software update that added Apple Music support to Tesla vehicles, so we thought we'd check it out for those who are interested in a hands-on demo of how Apple's streaming music service works on the Tesla platform.


Apple Music support for Tesla cars is something that Tesla owners have long been waiting for, as the electric car company has previously only worked with streaming services like Spotify.

The experience works as you might expect, and the full Apple Music service is available. The navigation experience is superior compared to Spotify, such as options for tapping into songs from a playlist to get to the entire album along with better interface interactions.

Navigation is also straightforward, though it's worth noting that it does not appear that iTunes Match content is available for access. Lossless and Dolby Atmos also do not appear to be available at this time in Teslas, and it is not clear if that functionality is going to be enabled at a later date.

If you're a Tesla owner, you will need the 2022.44.25 Tesla Holiday Update to access Apple Music, which has been rolling out over the last seven days.

Article Link: Hands-On With the Apple Music App for Tesla

Great article but my experience is a bit different. I have a ton of music I uploaded to Apple Music that is not in Apple Catalog (licensed music that is modified to teach fitness classes that is provided to me by the fitness company whose programs I teach). All of that is now also appearing and playing on my Tesla.
 
The original reason people who complained about lack of CarPlay now that point is made moot with this update.
it’s certainly an improvement
it does mean that I’m paying for Apple Music, whereas with Carplay it’s just the music on my phone - of which there’s a lot
 
Agree that it can be scary, but overall it is pretty good. Haven't tried center city Philly yet. That will be a challenge. The problem is that we all have our ways of getting around, and FSD doesn't think like we do, which is why I didn't get high scores while waiting for Beta.
FSD is fine in big cities--I run it through Chicago all the time. The problem with FSD is the car is clearly hesitant and doesn't make decisions as rapidly as a human. A good example is the auto lane change. The computer clearly can't make up it's mind and it is almost always slower than the human driver it is trying to pass
 
FSD is fine in big cities--I run it through Chicago all the time. The problem with FSD is the car is clearly hesitant and doesn't make decisions as rapidly as a human. A good example is the auto lane change. The computer clearly can't make up it's mind and it is almost always slower than the human driver it is trying to pass
i was in the middle of Chicago a couple of weeks ago and the Tesla software crashed in the middle of an intersection, turning on the hazard lights automatically and I had to wait for ~20 seconds until I could drive again (usually driving functions still work when the infotainment crashes, but this seemed like a lower level crash and everything was out).

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I think the FSD debate is a bit moot if these vehicles aren’t even fit for normal everyday driving.

Apple Music, CarPlay and whatnot would also be nice but what I really need is for the software to be more stable.
 
Or, they could just implement CarPlay and be done with it.... :rolleyes:

As a manufacturer, when you give up CarPlay, you're giving up on owning the car's platform. This is fine for most car makers because quite frankly, most should have no business in developing software!

But for a car that is a computer w/ wheels, I can't see Tesla giving up control, the same way that I can't imagine an Apple Car allowing Tesla to entirely take over their GUI...
 
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