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Touch ID is all I want or need. Which is why I am resisting ever updating to a new iPhone. I will keep my 6S with it's undersized battery for as long as possible. Next year I am sure Apple will announce FaceID plus or 3 or something claiming it's even more secure than ever. Frell that. I remember when Touch ID was so secure the FBI could not get in your phone. But wait, now there is FACEID and it's "even more better, our securest phone ever!, it's simply amazing"....
 
I was ready to cling to TouchID with the same fervor I had for the headphone jack.

It took me all of about 1 day to realize FaceID is far superior. Literally the 'laying in bed' excuse is the only place where touch ID may be a bit easier. but it's not like it's that hard to move your head or the phone.

In every other way FaceID is more seamless. I especially like it for Apple Pay purchases. Rather than awkwardly try to hold your thumb on the device as you pay, you can activate it while waiting in line and just hold your phone over NFC scanner.

It's also MUCH easier to use a drive-thru ATM with FaceID. If you used your right thumb for an ID, it was pretty much impossible to use an ATM while in the car.
 
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I like my XS, but I do miss TouchID. There are so many instances (in bed, in the dark, Halloween, etc) where FaceID just doesn’t work, and it’s frustrating.
Yes, in optimal situations it works great. But when it doesn’t, it’s annoying.

I wish future iPhones could implement BOTH, but I know that would be costly and unlikely.
I guess my Halloween costume was too subtle. Face ID worked like a charm for me. On the other hand, the TouchID did not fare so well because my fingers are covered in sweat.
 
Not bad for the first commercial availability of this tech. I see a lot of people going on about whether Face ID or Touch ID is better. Why not have both and let the consumer choose based on what's more convenient at the time? Not everything needs to be black and white. If you look at all the use-cases of when a user will need to unlock their phone, each technology has certain scenarios where it excels over the other.
 
I’ve been a critic of Face ID last year, called it a 50/50 draw with Touch ID on my iPhone X.

Face ID gen 2 on a new iPad Pro is simply totally perfect, Apple was right, there’s no question a perfected Face ID is better than any touch.
 
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I was really sceptical of FaceID and have stuck with my 8+, but having just bought a new 12.9" iPad Pro, I have to say FaceID is awesome. I do have a sneaking suspicion that TouchID may return once the under display tech improves sufficiently. As others have mentioned, there are some situations when FaceID won't work so having a second, fast (i.e. faster than passcode) option could make sense. Use whichever method is quickest for the situation.

Alternatively, Apple could explain TouchID's return by going down the security route, i.e. using it for two factor authentication along with FaceID, which would be even more secure. Obviously this wouldn't allow an either/or scenario though.

Apple rarely go back to things, but they have done so in the past, e.g. return of backlit keyboard in MBA 2011, return to replaceable RAM DIMMs in the new Mac mini to name but two.

Personally I think it most likely won't happen, but there might be a tiny chance. Apart from anything else, it would be something they could add in to stimulate more interest in the iPhone, especially as most of Apple's competition implement it. I think many would agree that excitement over new smartphones is lower than it used to be, so it all helps!
 
It really stinks when you have to use both eyes when you're dead tired in bed to Unlock.

I have one eye resting in my pillow , and using another eye to use my iPhone.

I feel touch ID will make a comeback

It won’t come back. It’s gone. Apple has made such a fuss of FaceID being so much more secure than TouchID that they will never allow the perception that they’re downgrading security.

I also have the issue with the “half in my pillow” not unlocking and it is very frustrating but it seems this is the future for now.

It will be much better when we get TelekeneticID and can unlock our phones with our thoughts.
 
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The adoption of FaceID by people I know is so much higher than TouchID, one simple fact is the setup and training process literally takes seconds compared to what a lot of people I know call the "frustrating finger thing" setup process. I.E. Tap, Tap, tap oh you clicked, tap tap "you clicked, DONT CLICK, YOU CLICKED.. move your finger more.. no more, not enough, tap again…

I have seen a lot of people just give up and also never add more than one finger so they just tap their passcode in most of the time.
 
Can’t say I miss Touch ID. Had my iPhone X since day one and can’t remember the last time Face ID failed.

Hoodies and hats no issue and I don’t wear glasses.

Actually I do wear glasses. The lenses even darken outside. My FaceID has worked with glasses, with dark lenses or normal, and without glasses. I have zero problem with it and my glasses. I also can’t remember the last time it failed.
 
Well I don't know what phone the reviewer was talking about because I have the new OP6T and the fingerprint sensor is the best I've ever used on a phone or tablet. It's never slow and so far it's been 100% accurate.

I have a number of cut marks on my fingers through a lifetime of work and for example the sensor on my Galaxy S7 was next to useless to the point I reverted to using a PIN. I'm having much the same issue with my new iPad and that too is always requiring me to use the PIN.

The OP6T however is almost an instant unlock and is proving very reliable.
 
I find Face ID in no way an improvement over Touch ID, full stop. I otherwise like my iPhone X, but in my opinion and experience Face ID is just not better.

I will never be convinced that Face ID wasn't a fallback feature when they couldn't get Touch ID under the screen to work, and then they heavily touted it as the new better thing, but the RDF just didn't work here.

I so wish I could still unlock my phone by discreetly resting my finger on it, without having to position it in a specific orientation in front of my face.
 
I upgraded to the X from the 5, which is kind of funny, not only due to how drastic of an upgrade it was, but also because I unintentionally, completely skipped over all the iPhones that had Touch ID. So I never had anything to complain about (if there even was anything to complain about) with Face ID. I went from using a four digit pin every time I unlocked my phone to using Face ID instead hahaha so yes, you could say that I love Face ID.
 
That is one of the major reasons why I am still using the iPhone 6s Plus. It had the best of everything. Touch ID and Earphone Jack. Those two things are a must for me when deciding on a phone. I have seen all the competitors but nothing has made when want to take out my sim from my unlocked iPhone 6s. Until that happen I will be in that ecosystem.


And best screen ever on any iPhone is the plus series as well.
 
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I find Face ID in no way an improvement over Touch ID, full stop. I otherwise like my iPhone X, but in my opinion and experience Face ID is just not better.

I will never be convinced that Face ID wasn't a fallback feature when they couldn't get Touch ID under the screen to work, and then they heavily touted it as the new better thing, but the RDF just didn't work here.

I so wish I could still unlock my phone by discreetly resting my finger on it, without having to position it in a specific orientation in front of my face.
I love Face ID, but I will say that I found it hard to believe when Apple claimed that they were never even considering under-display fingerprint recognition initially. I remember there were so many rumors about it during the year preceding the iPhone X release and then Face ID just came from out of no where. I’m not disappointed with Face ID, but I agree with you in that I also don’t believe that it was Apple’s first idea for an unlocking solution to a device with an edge-to-edge display. However, you gotta admit there must have been some serious time and effort put into Face ID considering that it’s a technology that still a year later nobody seems to be even close to mimicking so far.
 
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The biggest issue with current in-screen fingerprint readers is they’re optical readers and not capacitive like the old TouchID or fingerprint readers located on the back of devices.

This results in a couple of issues:

First, they’re often times slower because they’re essentially taking a picture of your fingerprint and comparing it to what’s on file. In order to do so, a light needs to be shined onto the finger so that the fingerprint patterns can be "seen" by the optical sensor. In the case of the OnePlus, a green light appears where you are to place your finger, and this same greenlight is what illuminates your finger. However, if the screen is dirty, of if your finger is dirty (or wet), or the angle of your finger on the screen is off, the fingerprint reader may be slow or fail outright.

Second, the security of an optical reader isn't great. Unlike a capacitive reader, which is able to detect the subtle differences in capacitance b/w the groove and peaks of your finger (and thus can't be fooled by a pic), an optical reader can theoretically be fooled by a simple high quality pic of your finger.

I imagine, as the technology matures, these issues can be reduced, if not eliminated entirely. But, at the moment, in-screen readers are just not ready for prime time.
 
I'm a FaceID fan. I still have an iPhone 6S for work and while it still works ok enough most of the time, I just don't miss it. Especially the setup process. Usually if I'm wearing something that's obscuring my face, I'm also wearing gloves, so neither technology is perfect, but FaceID is more reliable and less of a hassle, especially when your fingers are wet.

It's the same difference between rain sensing windshield wipers and manual variable intermittent windshield wipers, yes the rain sensing windshield doesn't work great sometimes but compared to having to constantly change the variable setting depending on the rainfall intensity, I like the rain sensing wipers a lot better.
 
Lol at the negative spin since Apple didn't do this first. Ok.

To unlock, just tap once on the screen and hold (where the fingerprint target is). Tap to unlock. You can set it to one tap in settings. Easy peasy.
 
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Yeah no. They won't bring back the space penalty just for some fringe cases. Design is compromise, and the benefits gained by giving up the chin outweigh the cons and thus make the compromise worth it.

The fingerprint sensor doesn't have to be on the front of the device. The Nexus 6P and some Motorola devices had it on the back. I found it more convenient than the iPhone placement, with the device unlocked by the index finger of the hand holding it.
 
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