Hands-On With the In-Screen Fingerprint Technology in the New OnePlus 6T

[harrisondavies]

I miss Touch ID. To be honest, on those occasions when I do have to use my phone quickly while driving, Face ID has made me less safe. Typing in a six-digit passcode is very distracting when I'm wearing sunglasses that FaceID doesn't like.

I’m so glad that the safety of other road users and pedestrians is inconveniencing you. Ever heard of “Hey Siri?” Distracted driving is a killer. The last thing you should be doing is using a phone while driving. There is no excuse. No one needs to use their phone while driving. *Shakesheadindisbelief*

 

[Wandering Wastrel]

I like my XS, but I do miss TouchID. There are so many instances (in bed, in the dark, Halloween, etc) where FaceID just doesn’t work, and it’s frustrating.
Yes, in optimal situations it works great. But when it doesn’t, it’s annoying.

I wish future iPhones could implement BOTH, but I know that would be costly and unlikely.

Don't worry. In just a few years, when phones have been enlarged to the size of boom boxes, and you carry your phone on your shoulder, Apple will implement FaceTouch -- you shift the phone from one shoulder to the other, rolling it over your face, which unlocks the phone. Voila, innovation.

 

[mi7chy]

Touch ID > Face ID

Face ID has way too many false positive failures allowing someone else unrelated to unlock your phone and it's more dangerous having to take your eyes off the road to unlock.

There are tons of these Face ID failure videos on YouTube.

 

[Shanghaichica]

FaceID has worked quickly and reliably for me. I expect a lot of notch hating on this thread but the notch doesn't bother me either. I also had a 6 Plus before this, and Touch ID also worked well, but for me Face ID has been faster and easier.

I think most people are over the notch now. Don’t even see it mentioned now. I wouldn’t mind having both Touch ID and Face ID but Face ID works really well.
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Face ID on my iPhone XS Max is better than it was on the iPhone X. It’s faster, more reliable, and works much better off-axis (like when my phone is sitting on a table). Not only does Face ID on the XS Max seem to have a larger field of view (FOV), it is much more reliable near the edges of its FOV.

With the iPhone X, Face ID was good enough for early adopters, but it had its issues.

With the XS, XS Max, and XR, Face ID is much more ready for prime time.

I have to disagree. I though Touch ID worked very well on the X and I think most of the reviewers agreed.

 

[flygbuss]

The adoption of FaceID by people I know is so much higher than TouchID, one simple fact is the setup and training process literally takes seconds compared to what a lot of people I know call the "frustrating finger thing" setup process. I.E. Tap, Tap, tap oh you clicked, tap tap "you clicked, DONT CLICK, YOU CLICKED.. move your finger more.. no more, not enough, tap again…

I have seen a lot of people just give up and also never add more than one finger so they just tap their passcode in most of the time.

Seriously? It hardly takes 20 seconds to setup your print..
Even my grandpa managed that easily and he's 85. Never heard of anyone having issues with that.

The fact that the new MBA got TouchID might be a sign that it's not gone for good.

Though I think FaceID works great either..

 

[kingofwale]

as someone who live with my identical twin, i am NEVER going with a device with only Face ID.

I don't care if Apple is stating it's 1,000,000 to 1, especially if that 1is extremely likely to be someone close to you.

 

[titan4]

I don't mind FaceID as much as I thought I would, but what I don't like is that FaceID completely killed Apple Pay on iPhone for me. The need to preauthorize is just so much worse than just touching the reader with thumb on TouchID and doing both payment and authorization at the same time.

 

[drumcat]

I'm not interested in getting my retinas bombed with IR all the time. I wish the Touch ID option was still available, if only on the back. That said, this screen option looks completely feasible, and I'd use it.

What gets me is that this BS about a "notch" and "rounded corners" is still all fluff. You don't want rounded corners on your TV at home, do you? Why would you? Your monitor? Your laptop? Nope. None of it. Corners are where you put things, and having 90º corners is efficient.

There should be no notch, but since it's there, whatever, you can put your status stuff up there. I get it. But the notch is not an excuse for a rounded corner.

You know what had "round" corners? CRTs... you know, back in the day, make your kid change the channel Tvs? Those things. Technically, not, but they rounded out. Why are we going backwards?
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It really stinks when you have to use both eyes when you're dead tired in bed to Unlock.

I have one eye resting in my pillow , and using another eye to use my iPhone.

I feel touch ID will make a comeback

Most #firstworldproblem thing I've ever seen here...

 

[FormulaElement]

I love faceid much more than the touch. You dont have to worry about greasy fingers, cleaning off the home button, etc...

The adaptive learning software is also great. When I first got my X, I couldn’t unlock it laying flat. Now I can unlock it at around a 45 degree angle. Laying in bed can be tricky, if I am looking toward my stomach and try and unlock it, it doesn’t work as the I guess I have a double chin? (I’m not fat by any means).

I have no problem unlocking my phone with a hat, glasses, using my vape, toothbrush etc either....

I’m glad they put their resources into faceid vs spending any more resources advancing touchid.

 

[kwikdeth]

You know what had "round" corners? CRTs... you know, back in the day, make your kid change the channel Tvs? Those things. Technically, not, but they rounded out. Why are we going backwards?

it does seem to fly somewhat in the face of the anti-skeumorphism design ethos Apple has taken on in the last few years.

 

[falainber]

The biggest issue with current in-screen fingerprint readers is they’re optical readers and not capacitive like the old TouchID or fingerprint readers located on the back of devices.

This results in a couple of issues:

First, they’re often times slower because they’re essentially taking a picture of your fingerprint and comparing it to what’s on file. In order to do so, a light needs to be shined onto the finger so that the fingerprint patterns can be "seen" by the optical sensor. In the case of the OnePlus, a green light appears where you are to place your finger, and this same greenlight is what illuminates your finger. However, if the screen is dirty, of if your finger is dirty (or wet), or the angle of your finger on the screen is off, the fingerprint reader may be slow or fail outright.

Second, the security of an optical reader isn't great. Unlike a capacitive reader, which is able to detect the subtle differences in capacitance b/w the groove and peaks of your finger (and thus can't be fooled by a pic), an optical reader can theoretically be fooled by a simple high quality pic of your finger.

I imagine, as the technology matures, these issues can be reduced, if not eliminated entirely. But, at the moment, in-screen readers are just not ready for prime time.

I believe in-display fingerprint readers in all the phones released so far are optical sensors. Samsung is rumored to be using ultrasound in-display sensors in their future phones (perhaps the one developed by Qualcomm). These sensors are supposed to be much better but we will see.

 

[RodThePlod]

It really stinks when you have to use both eyes when you're dead tired in bed to Unlock.

I have one eye resting in my pillow , and using another eye to use my iPhone.

Face ID works for me with one eye closed. Just tried it now. And I'm using last year's iPhone X. Maybe this is an improvement with iOS 12 because I'm sure it would never do that previously.

 

[falainber]

I’m so glad that the safety of other road users and pedestrians is inconveniencing you. Ever heard of “Hey Siri?” Distracted driving is a killer. The last thing you should be doing is using a phone while driving. There is no excuse. No one needs to use their phone while driving. *Shakesheadindisbelief*

They should not but they (we all) do. And the owners of iPhones with Face ID are the ones who get distracted the most (when unlocking their phones).

 

[tylersdad]

I just bought an XS Max and I was really worried about Face ID. After two weeks of using it, I can’t imagine going back to Touch ID. Face ID works so much better for me. Touch ID was always really picky. Hands too dry? Won’t work. Hands damp or sweaty? Won’t work.

Face ID just works...and I love it.

 

[GoodWheaties]

I personally like Face ID but I recognize my use case might not be the same as everyone else’s. I do, however, greatly look forward to Face ID on the Mac whenever it arrives. I’d prefer that to the Touch Bar.

To me, FaceID makes more sense on an iMac or a MacBook than it does on a phone. There would be plenty of room in the bezels to house everything.

 

[gaspitsjesse]

I miss Touch ID. To be honest, on those occasions when I do have to use my phone quickly while driving, Face ID has made me less safe. Typing in a six-digit passcode is very distracting when I'm wearing sunglasses that FaceID doesn't like.

You're joking, right?

 

[Nitrokev2]

I miss Touch ID. To be honest, on those occasions when I do have to use my phone quickly while driving, Face ID has made me less safe. Typing in a six-digit passcode is very distracting when I'm wearing sunglasses that FaceID doesn't like.

Maybe stop putting peoples lives in danger and keep off your phone when driving

 

[groadyho]

Touch ID > Face ID

Face ID has way too many false positive failures allowing someone else unrelated to unlock your phone and it's more dangerous having to take your eyes off the road to unlock.

There are tons of these Face ID failure videos on YouTube.

I can unlock my brothers iPhone with face id. Pisses him off. Imvho face id isn't ready for prime time either, so many people look alike, doppelgangers are everywhere. Ahaha jk?!

 

[melgross]

Huawei has announced a Face ID type of system that uses the same IR blaster that Apple uses. I think it’s in the Mate Pro 20.

We’ll have to see how good it is.

 

[TrueBlou]

I love Face ID, but I will say that I found it hard to believe when Apple claimed that they were never even considering under-display fingerprint recognition initially. I remember there were so many rumors about it during the year preceding the iPhone X release and then Face ID just came from out of no where. I’m not disappointed with Face ID, but I agree with you in that I also don’t believe that it was Apple’s first idea for an unlocking solution to a device with an edge-to-edge display. However, you gotta admit there must have been some serious time and effort put into Face ID considering that it’s a technology that still a year later nobody seems to be even close to mimicking so far.

To many of us FaceID seemed to come out of nowhere. But let’s not forget, Apple bought Primesense back in 2013. They knew exactly why they bought the company, it just took them 4 years to shrink that massive technology down to the size it is now.

As for the what do you prefer debate. I’ll admit I was a little sceptical before I bought my X. But since then I’ve had (and still have) only one small complaint. And that’s that it only works in portrait on the iPhone. Granted 99% of the time I pick my phone up, it’s in portrait.

But still, having used the new iPad Pro, it’s just so much better. I like FaceID, it’s been more reliable, or should I say more flexible than Touch ID. When wearing gloves for instance. (Yes I mean gloves that work with a touchscreen.)

I don’t recall in recent memory unlocking any of my phones when I wasn’t going to be looking t them anyway, so the whole - you have to look at it to unlock it argument has passed me by.

Naturally my use case won’t be the same as everyone else’s, so y’know, whatever’s best for you.
And as unlikely as it is, of course I wouldn’t complain if they added under screen fingerprint scanning at some point. Nothing wrong with choice. But if they don’t, I’m totally happy with Face ID.

 

[Jovian9]

There's not a day that goes by that I don't miss Touch ID. Face ID fails on me multiple times per day. One pair of sunglasses always works, one sometimes works. Others maybe half the time. Hats throw it off from time-to-time.

I got an iPhone X in April. I had touch ID iPhones since they came out. Every week since I've had the X I've had to enter my password more than I had to do in years with Touch ID.

When it works it is great. But it's unreliable for me, at best. I miss being able to just put my finger/thumb on the phone and it be unlocked by the time my eyes were looking at it.

 

[iphone4lifez]

For me after iOS12 upgrade it s working faster and reliably on my year old iPhone X even when I am sleeping on the bed to the left or right

 

[Apple_Robert]

Dan,
You can't use the OnePlus6T to ascertain if Apple made a mistake by not incorporating the feature in it's current devices. You are trying to invoke a logical fallacy doing that.

I get a lot of people like Touch ID and want it in addition to Face ID. I am very happy with Face ID and don't see the need to go back to TouchID.

 

[kruegdude]

Touch ID is all I want or need. Which is why I am resisting ever updating to a new iPhone. I will keep my 6S with it's undersized battery for as long as possible. Next year I am sure Apple will announce FaceID plus or 3 or something claiming it's even more secure than ever. Frell that. I remember when Touch ID was so secure the FBI could not get in your phone. But wait, now there is FACEID and it's "even more better, our securest phone ever!, it's simply amazing"....

Why not upgrade to an iPhone 7 or 8? They still have Touch ID and you’ll be good to go for another 5-8 years.

 

[Seoras]

The iPad Pro needs in screen Face ID.
Too easy to place your thumb over those cameras holding in landscape.