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I don’t think the speed issue is nitpicking. The difference in TouchID between the 5S/6/SE and newer models is a big deal once you get used to the faster sensors.

The slowness of the original Apple Watch never bothered me until I tried the S3. After that I couldn’t go back but up until then it was fine.
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I like my XS, but I do miss TouchID. There are so many instances (in bed, in the dark, Halloween, etc) where FaceID just doesn’t work, and it’s frustrating.
Yes, in optimal situations it works great. But when it doesn’t, it’s annoying.

I wish future iPhones could implement BOTH, but I know that would be costly and unlikely.

This goes for TouchID too though. Wet fingers not only kill it but often force you to clean the sensor off.
 
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Face ID on my iPhone XS Max is better than it was on the iPhone X. It’s faster, more reliable, and works much better off-axis (like when my phone is sitting on a table). Not only does Face ID on the XS Max seem to have a larger field of view (FOV), it is much more reliable near the edges of its FOV.

With the iPhone X, Face ID was good enough for early adopters, but it had its issues.

With the XS, XS Max, and XR, Face ID is much more ready for prime time.

It’s exactly the same component, Gen 1. Slightly faster though due to A12 processor.
 
I so wish my Pixel 3 XL looked and worked like that. It looks (pimple aside) brilliant.

Just been to a concert tonight though and Googles Night Sight is just so amazing, it's almost voodoo. Until these other manufacturers run raw Android I'll never consider them.
 
Face ID is compelling enough from my day to day uses where Touch ID in any form is irrelevant for me. Face ID has worked beyond my expectations on my 10XS Max in most position and any lighting conditions.
 
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I have a Huawei Mate RS. It uses a Goodix in-screen fingerprint reader, which I think it's the same as the one in the OnePlus.

Compared to a traditional rear sensor, I don't think it's as good. It's pretty slow and often fails to read my fingerprints. My Mate RS also has a rear fingerprint reader and that one is what you could call 'instantaneous.'

Compared to FaceID, honestly the FaceID is faster than the in-screen sensor, but not as fast as the traditional fingerprint reader.

Would I replaced FaceID with an in-screen fingerprint reader? Heck no. Would it make for a nice addition so I can get say a family member access to my device without giving them my passcode? Yes, that would be perfect. There are also times I wear sunglass that FaceID doesn't work and not having to type a 15-character alphanumeric passcode would be nice in this instance.
 
Well, since we now KNOW that they can get FaceID to support all orientations (iPad Pro), I won’t be missing Touch ID at all once they bring that to the iPhone... I don’t have problems with it on a flat table, for the most part, but that might be because I turned off the attention option and I set mine up from a lower angle... I wasn’t holding it up perfectly to my face. I held it as I naturally do while using my phone, looking down at it.
 
Despite what Dan of MR says, you DO NOT need to "lean over" your phone to unlock a flat X or newer. I'm doing it right now from a natural, normal, comfortable angle. Just swipe up. Works fine.

Negative. Have my phone on my desk right in front of me. Looking at it, won't unlock. It has to be angled or I have to be over it somewhat. Same with being in bed laying on my side. If the phone is too close or not horizontal to my position, it won't unlock.

Not a flaw, just how it works. Only time I miss touch ID is for driving. Then again, really shouldn't be using your phone while driving anyway I guess.
 
+1 for Touch ID. It worked more often for me than Face ID does right now. Touch ID I would say worked 99% of the time to log me in.. I would put Face ID at 70% the time.
 
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That is one of the major reasons why I am still using the iPhone 6s Plus. It had the best of everything. Touch ID and Earphone Jack. Those two things are a must for me when deciding on a phone. I have seen all the competitors but nothing has made when want to take out my sim from my unlocked iPhone 6s. Until that happen I will be in that ecosystem.
 
Face ID, for example, doesn't work well when you're laying in bed
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Really? I have no issues unlocking my Xs while lying down on the bed (towards left or right side).

And yes, I do not miss Touch ID whatsover. In fact I find it weird when I use Touch ID on my wife's iPhone.
Interesting - I just upgraded to the iPad 11” and was able to setup my device as new with 30 apps using LastPass without typing anything - faceid worked fast and perfectly
 
with eyestrain I really prefer touchID. FaceID is a great idea, but having something shooting at my face and eyes is not the ideal solution. Once its perfected and people will stop having eyestrain etc. then maybe its better but for now I prefer touchID

What exactly is “shooting” at your eyes???
faceID doesn’t use lasers
 
I like my XS, but I do miss TouchID. There are so many instances (in bed, in the dark, Halloween, etc) where FaceID just doesn’t work, and it’s frustrating.
Hmmmmm, so often I see comments like this where it’s obvious the poster has never used FaceID but seldom do they get called out on the lie. FaceID doesn’t require any light whatsoever and if you actually had a device with FaceID you would know this. Trolls on this forum make this mistake all of the time.

I have FaceID on my iPhone X but still have Touch ID on my 10.5 iPad Pro. FaceID is far more reliable for me as instances of laying at an awkward angle in bed or wearing a mask are, for me, infinitely less common than a thumb that is too wet, too dry, gloves on, etc, etc. Though, admittedly, TouchID works equally well in the dark.
 
Face ID sucks. I completely agree with all the observations on the article regarding Face ID being sluggish/unresponsive in the following situations
- laying in the bed
- in the dark
- wearing sunglasses
- brushing
- phone on the desk
- in crowded subway
- phone not held at proper angle/looking away

I can bet any amount that apple must be maintaining a log of number of times the users have to put in password now with Face ID vs the number of times they had to enter the password with Touch ID. The former must exceed the latter by a factor of at least 10, if not more!

And how annoying is it to use stupid double click when making payment Apple Pay! Did apple engineers even try it to see how inconvenient is to do double click on a side switch with one hand? When making a purchase, a perso usually has a bag in one hand. With Touch ID, it was super convenient.

The only situation when Touch ID didn’t work was when the hands were wet. That’s it!

Apple pushed an imperfect technology when they couldn’t put the fingerprints below the screen. I was really going to replace my iPhone X by any new iphone this year if apple had kept Touch ID in a new model.




Back before the iPhone X came out, there were rumors suggesting Apple would do away with the Home button by implementing Touch ID under the display of the device, preserving the fingerprint sensor while allowing for an edge-to-edge display.

That didn't end up happening and Apple ultimately replaced Touch ID with Face ID, but since then, other companies have implemented in-display fingerprint recognition technology.


OnePlus recently unveiled its new OnePlus 6T, one of the first commercially available smartphones in the United States that's using in-screen fingerprint recognition technology. We were able to get our hands on one of the new smartphones to see if Apple is missing out on anything with its Face ID implementation.

There are instances where a fingerprint sensor offers benefits over facial recognition. Face ID, for example, doesn't work well when you're laying in bed and the phone is held in landscape or when an iPhone is flat on a desk. With a fingerprint sensor, those are non-issues.

Fingerprint sensors have their own problems, though, and as we discovered with the OnePlus 6T, in-display fingerprint technology isn't as great as it sounds. OnePlus' implementation is slow and inaccurate, a major negative compared to Face ID.

With the OnePlus 6T, you need to make sure to place your finger in the designated spot on the display for your fingerprint to be recognized, and sometimes you need to hold it there for what seems like a long time before it reads the fingerprint. Touch ID and Face ID both unlock almost instantly, so the wait with the OnePlus 6T makes a huge difference.

Had Apple pursued in-display fingerprint technology its implementation might have been better than what OnePlus came out with, and there's still a chance the tech OnePlus is using will improve with software updates or future iterations, but we'll never know if Apple would have done it better.

Apple is all in on Face ID, which is now in both modern iPhones and iPads, and the company has said that other solutions, like in-screen or rear-facing Touch ID, were never under consideration once it decided to pursue Face ID.

Apple's Face ID technology is still so advanced that no other company, OnePlus included, has managed to match it as of yet. And in-display technology still has a ways to go, it seems, with most major Apple competitors instead opting for rear-facing fingerprint sensors as a way to achieve edge-to-edge displays.

Do you miss Touch ID and wish Apple would have worked towards an in-display fingerprint sensor, or do you prefer Face ID? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: Hands-On With the In-Screen Fingerprint Technology in the New OnePlus 6T
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[doublepost=1541822701][/doublepost]Wearing a mask? Dude, it never works with any sort of clay mask etc. I have tried it many times with phone perfectly positioned but it just won’t unlock if I have any sort of mask on.
Also, ever tried unlocking your iPhone when brushing?
Hmmmmm, so often I see comments like this where it’s obvious the poster has never used FaceID but seldom do they get called out on the lie. FaceID doesn’t require any light whatsoever and if you actually had a device with FaceID you would know this. Trolls on this forum make this mistake all of the time.

I have FaceID on my iPhone X but still have Touch ID on my 10.5 iPad Pro. FaceID is far more reliable for me as instances of laying at an awkward angle in bed or wearing a mask are, for me, infinitely less common than a thumb that is too wet, too dry, gloves on, etc, etc. Though, admittedly, TouchID works equally well in the dark.
Wearing a mask - dude
 
That’s not better than a FaceID and is actually worse than original TouchID.

If have to touch a specific place, why not just touch a button?
 
That’s not better than a FaceID and is actually worse than original TouchID.

If have to touch a specific place, why not just touch a button?
Button takes up too much space on the front. Fingerprint sensors on the back side of the phone on the other hand work great.
 
Face ID is great and now that I have the new iPad I no longer need to use Touch ID which is great as it just felt awkward to use compared to Face ID.

Also, this in-screen fingerprint unlock seems pointless as you need to wake the screen, then look at it to see where to place your finger, then touch it, with Face ID it would have already unlocked. Seems clunky compared to Touch ID also, probably not much good for visually impaired users either.
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The iPad Pro needs in screen Face ID.
Too easy to place your thumb over those cameras holding in landscape.

But it’s cool how it tells you the camera is covered so you can move your hand and as soon as you do it unlocks :)
 
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as someone who live with my identical twin, i am NEVER going with a device with only Face ID.

I don't care if Apple is stating it's 1,000,000 to 1, especially if that 1is extremely likely to be someone close to you.


This may be a case of ignorance on my part, but wouldn't an identical twin have identical fingerprints?
 
I do miss Touch ID. Face ID is more inconvenient in most (not all) instances than Face ID. Examples: phone charging flat at the desk in The office, I have to move my whole body much more to be able to unlock compared to just moving the arm/hand. While at the car: I need to move all my body and my head close to the iphone compared to just moving my arm from a longer distance.
Faceid is the sole reason for me to not buy a new iPad. Not every device works better without a button...
 
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I honestly think the reason why iPhone doesn't have Touch ID anymore is because apple could not get the under glass Touch ID in time in combination with Face ID. Then full steam ahead with "Face ID is the future / replacement".

Apple is famous for never going back, so doubtful we will ever see Touch ID in iPhone again, even though a combination of the two would be killer.

What is your reason for honestly thinking this? If you have none - or you’re thinking it because some rumor site told you Apple was pursuing Touch ID, there’s not much reason to post.
 
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Also you can't hide the face sensors under the display, while you can do just that with Touch ID.

While the former is certainly true, the latter isn’t: you can’t do that with Touch ID. That’s why Apple hasn’t done it! All we know is that another company has developed something similar to Touch ID which works - more or less - under a display screen.
 
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