Hands-On With the In-Screen Fingerprint Technology in the New OnePlus 6T

[BrettArchibald]

I miss Touch ID. To be honest, on those occasions when I do have to use my phone quickly while driving, Face ID has made me less safe. Typing in a six-digit passcode is very distracting when I'm wearing sunglasses that FaceID doesn't like.

No. You're wrong there. It is not Face ID that has made you less safe. It is you deciding you need to use your phone while driving that has made you less safe.
I would include a personal insult here, caused by my outrage at your flagrant disregard for the safety of others, but forum rules say I'm not allowed to...
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They should not but they (we all) do. And the owners of iPhones with Face ID are the ones who get distracted the most (when unlocking their phones).

You could have finished your sentence after the first three words.
Do not say we all do. We do not.
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While you are 100% correct about distracted driving being just wrong, however, IMHO, talking to Siri is not that much different than talking to someone sitting in my passenger seat. So maybe I am missing a trick that is really the only thing I miss about TouchID.

While driving....
iPhone: Ding Ding
Me: Hey Siri, Read my text
Siri: You'll need to unlock your iPhone first

That is distracting driving at its worst as it seems like you must pick up the phone, and look directly at it to unlock. With TouchID, I could paw around to find the TouchID button. Does anyone know a way around this? If yes, no more TouchID for me.

Here's your solution: Check your messages when you get out of your car.
Seriously, how did you people manage to get through life before smartphones?

 

[akuma13]

Face ID, for example, doesn't work well when you're laying in bed
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Really? I have no issues unlocking my Xs while lying down on the bed (towards left or right side).

And yes, I do not miss Touch ID whatsover. In fact I find it weird when I use Touch ID on my wife's iPhone.

I’ve been sick all week and yes the bed is when you find Face ID is not as quick as it could be. I’ve had issues laying on my back face turned, trying to unlock. A pillow or blanket partially covering face and it will ask me to try again. Also lying sideways with hand on head. I know for a fact i’ve had more ‘unrecognized’ attempts to access my phone with Face ID compared to Touch ID. I think another form of physical security like Touch is still needed to have a more seemless experience.

 

[cocoua]

I miss TOuch ID sometimes, IN THE CAR! this is what I hate the most about iP X, sometimes I'm temped to back to my iP7 just for this, but also when laying the desktop, I used to use one of my unregistere fingers to activate screen and watch notifications, also I miss alot when, while sitting on a table at dinner, I could sleek my phone form my pocket just enough to see the screen and peek a boo messges, maybe some at the table wouldn´t notice this..

on the opposite, I dont have any situations with faceID I really could say "oh God! thanks FaceID exist!"

and maaaaaaaaaaaaany times FaceID doesnt works at first, so , hate it
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Face ID on my iPhone XS Max is better than it was on the iPhone X. It’s faster, more reliable, and works much better off-axis (like when my phone is sitting on a table). Not only does Face ID on the XS Max seem to have a larger field of view (FOV), it is much more reliable near the edges of its FOV.

With the iPhone X, Face ID was good enough for early adopters, but it had its issues.

With the XS, XS Max, and XR, Face ID is much more ready for prime time.

really!? I really need to hear this because after 7 months using faceID I still hating it

 

[solarmon]

Don't worry. In just a few years, when phones have been enlarged to the size of boom boxes, and you carry your phone on your shoulder, Apple will implement FaceTouch -- you shift the phone from one shoulder to the other, rolling it over your face, which unlocks the phone. Voila, innovation.

HaHa! You a funny guy. Funny looking? No, not like that. I mean funny, as in Ha Ha. (Made me laugh, anyway).

 

[Digital Dude]

I've had/have both, and I prefer Face, as it seems quicker. I have about 5% failure rate, but that's pretty low. Yes, having both would be better although knowing Apple, they move on to the next level before that.

 

[himanshumodi]

I am curious to know how good has normal finger-print recognition become on Androids? My wife has a OnePlus from 2 years back... so same time as 7 I guess, and the finger print scanning there was pretty hit and miss. And it has become unusable now. Whereas it has worked near flawlessly for me on my iphone 6 and 6s so far.

Now androids all have the scanner on the back... which I can't wrap my head around. If I had to make a design compromise, I'd rather have bezels than a slow finger print scanning where my finger has to go hunting for the scanner.

 

[hackenbacker]

I'll be honest, I don't understand the clamour to fill every space on the front of the device with screen. It's not necessary, and having physical buttons and fingerprint sensors on the front of the device make a big difference to the usability as far as I'm concerned.

But given a choice between a fingerprint sensor on the back, face recognition, or a slightly slower fingerprint sensor on the front (embedded in the display) - I'll take the front-mounted fingerprint sensor every single time.

 

[Raist3001]

Personally in my opinion, FaceID is better suited for the iPad. As I use my iPad as a laptop, with TouchID, I need to always reach out to authenticate. With FaceID, this would be much more productive.

My iPhone is always in my hand, and my thumb is always in the prime area to invoke TouchID.

 

[groadyho]

I am curious to know how good has normal finger-print recognition become on Androids? My wife has a OnePlus from 2 years back... so same time as 7 I guess, and the finger print scanning there was pretty hit and miss. And it has become unusable now. Whereas it has worked near flawlessly for me on my iphone 6 and 6s so far.

Now androids all have the scanner on the back... which I can't wrap my head around. If I had to make a design compromise, I'd rather have bezels than a slow finger print scanning where my finger has to go hunting for the scanner.

I've had my s9+ since March, the fingerprint sensor never fails, ever. It opens the phone instantly.
Also, to other poster it so very convienent with the sensor on the back. I can unlock my phone before it comes out of my pocket. Try it.
That said, my niece and nephew just got the Xr and love it and face id. My nephew and I don't really look alike but I can't open his Xr like I can my brothers X with face id.

 

[840quadra]

There is only one clip and that's all. One clip where a german site was able to get past S8's iris scanner specifically and that's it.
Also they didn't use a simple picture.
First the Iris scanner was set to work only with one eye(it can be set to work with both eye and it would be more secure that way)
Second they used a high resolution ir picture of somebody's eye. The picture needs to be detailed and in perfect focus.
Third they used contact lenses to try to better mimic a real eye
Forth they implied it works better with some Samsung printers meaning that their method of getting past the iris scanner is not very reliable.
Fifth none of the phones Samsung launched after the S8 had their iris scanners hacked in any way.

So I don't see how saying that Samsung's Iris Scanner is objectively the most secure biometric authentication method is not correct.

You are correct, looking deeper it appears that all the videos are mostly commentary on that single German test. To be honest, I don’t really care as I don’t own Samsung products. My main goal was to point out that it was an Iris scanner (as opposed to retina), and it is not perfect either. I didn’t say it was any less (or more) secure than other biometrics, so not sure why you mentioned that. That said, if you are basing your objective evaluation on how many articles or videos there are on the subject, that seems flawed.

Personally, I am a strong password kind of guy, so I don’t really have a horse in this race. The technology (on all platforms) is interesting though!

 

[Lankyman]

I am curious to know how good has normal finger-print recognition become on Androids? My wife has a OnePlus from 2 years back... so same time as 7 I guess, and the finger print scanning there was pretty hit and miss. And it has become unusable now. Whereas it has worked near flawlessly for me on my iphone 6 and 6s so far.

Now androids all have the scanner on the back... which I can't wrap my head around. If I had to make a design compromise, I'd rather have bezels than a slow finger print scanning where my finger has to go hunting for the scanner.

I have an S7 (scanner on the front btw) and I found because of a poor skin structure on my index and thumb e.g. cut scars etc. the scanner to be worse than useless. I have similar problems using the fingerprint scanner on my 2018 iPad and iPhone 7.

I now have the OP6T and for me it's the second coming. This under glass fingerprint scanner is the bees knees, it really is. To date I have recorded 100% accuracy every time and it's blisteringly 'quick' following a software update.

Apple - this is the future.

 

[drvendit]

Face ID works OK, but I preferred touch ID. Sometimes I want to unlock my phone when I am not looking directly at it, like when phone is laying on a desk, or on my car mount. Don't really know of a good way to solve this problem w/o having the touch ID on the front, which takes away from screen real estate, unless the fingerprint scanner is part of the screen.

 

[phoneme]

my mate 20 pro has no problems seeing my face and unlocking while it's on a table or desk. and it even has a fingerprint scanner under the glass that works perfectly fine. the face unlock it no doubt faster than my iphones face unlock. the only thing missing would be a rear fingerprint scanner then it would have all the bases covered.

 

[Derekeys]

I wish Face ID didn't require a swipe to unlock. AS AN OPTION I just want to blow by the notifications.

Raise to wake > Unlock with Face ID > Home screen.

AS AN OPTION

 

[phoneme]

I wish Face ID didn't require a swipe to unlock. AS AN OPTION I just want to blow by the notifications.

Raise to wake > Unlock with Face ID > Home screen.

AS AN OPTION

the mate 20 pro has that option you can do it either way with or without a swipe to unlock.

 

[Sakurambo-kun]

I miss Touch ID. To be honest, on those occasions when I do have to use my phone quickly while driving, Face ID has made me less safe. Typing in a six-digit passcode is very distracting when I'm wearing sunglasses that FaceID doesn't like.

Never, ever do that again. Using a phone whilst driving is not just illegal, is also potentially fatal for anyone you plough into whilst distracted.

If you are incapable of driving responsibly, use public transport instead.

 

[I7guy]

my mate 20 pro has no problems seeing my face and unlocking while it's on a table or desk. and it even has a fingerprint scanner under the glass that works perfectly fine. the face unlock it no doubt faster than my iphones face unlock. the only thing missing would be a rear fingerprint scanner then it would have all the bases covered.

Can you authenticate financial transactions with the face unlock?

 

[phoneme]

Can you authenticate financial transactions with the face unlock?

to be honest i don't know because i don't do any financial transactions on my cell. the onlt transaction i trust using my cell would be bitcoin, but if it doesn't im sure the fingerprint scanner will.

 

[Applemaniac7]

I do it often while pulled over on the side of the road — maybe I want to send a text message or take a photo for example (I know, you can take photos without unlocking, but I prefer a third party camera app). Some people (not me) have speakers in their helmet and might like to select a different album or podcast.

On longer rides I also use my phone as a GPS.

Removing a glove is simple, grab it by the finger tips and pull, then place it on the handlebars.

Removing the helmet involves many steps:

1. take off my backpack, find the case for my sunglasses
2. take off my sunglasses, place them in the case (they're expensive and I can only afford to buy a new pair every 2 years. If they get scratched, I'll just have to live with the scratch)
3. put my backpack back on my back (where else am I going to place it? Not in the dirt on the side of the road)
4. undo two buckles on the helmet — one holds the helmet on my head, the second stops the strap from flying around in the wind and hitting me in the neck dozens of times per second. I can't see the buckles, which makes this tricky.
5. Remove the helmet.
6. Place the helmet... where? In the dirt? Nope. Balance it on the bike where it might fall off? No way. I guess I'll have to awkwardly hold the helmet in one hand while typing a text into the phone. Try not to drop either of them — but if you need to pick one, drop the fancy iPhone. It's cheaper and less likely to be damaged if dropped onto asphalt.
7. Repeat the steps 5 through 1 in reverse order to put the helmet and sunglasses back on.

In cold weather it's worse, since I'll be wearing a balaclava to protect my neck and lower face from the elements. Because helmets are very tight, your balaclava will be pushed out of the way while putting on the helmet and you'll have to reach in under the helmet to adjust it. Forget about doing that while wearing gloves - so add removing both gloves and putting them back on to the list of things needed to unlock with Face ID.

If I ever "upgrade" to a phone with Face ID, there is no chance I'll take off my helmet to use it. I'll be typing in my password instead - which is long and complicated enough I frequently need to type it in more than once to get my phone to unlock.

Thanks for the reply, it seemed like you were texting and riding at the same time, which obviously isn't the case... pls excuse my jumping to conclusions...

 

[EdT]

I've had/have both, and I prefer Face, as it seems quicker. I have about 5% failure rate, but that's pretty low. Yes, having both would be better although knowing Apple, they move on to the next level before that.

Both would have added to the cost of an already very expensive phone, for very little in the way of additional features and functions. Sometimes my fingers get greasy at work, as I am around automated production lines. Touch ID didn’t work for me at all in those situations. I also noticed it didn’t work well when my hands were clean, but wet. In short, if you are using a non password based authentication there are going to be conditions that prevent it from working well. This isn’t even Apple specific, Android phones versions of Touch ID have the same problems and there isn’t a real Android equivalent of Face ID and the Iris scanner is more field of view limited than pretty much any other system. So if Face ID doesn’t work for you Iris scan will work even less.

 

[techwhiz]

I have a Oneplus 6T. The underglass sensor is fine.
It's no better or worse than a standard sensor.
The standard sensor on my iPad Pro does not always read my finger, neither does this one.
It's more problematic if my hand is wet.

I was looking at a dual SIM phone for Verizon.
iPhone Xs/r eSIM isn't working yet. The 6T has two real SIMs.
I was tired of carrying two phones.
Apple/Verizon get eSIM working and we can talk. Can you hear me now!

 

[phoneme]

I have a Oneplus 6T. The underclass sensor is fine.
It's no better or worse than a standard sensor.
The standard sensor on my iPad Pro does not always read my finger, neither does this one.
It's more problematic if my hand is wet.

I was looking at a dual SIM phone for Verizon.
iPhone Xs/r eSIM isn't working yet. The 6T has two real SIMs.
I was tired of carrying two phones.
Apple/Verizon get eSIM working and we can talk. Can you hear me now!

hope you don't mind me asking. but we do you need to sims?

 

[Yojimbo007]

Face id all the way!... so smooth and transparent....
Touch id feels old and cumbersome by comparison.... specially if the buttons is a bit snesred or your finger tips are a bit wet.

 

[robrat13]

That is one of the major reasons why I am still using the iPhone 6s Plus. It had the best of everything. Touch ID and Earphone Jack. Those two things are a must for me when deciding on a phone. I have seen all the competitors but nothing has made when want to take out my sim from my unlocked iPhone 6s. Until that happen I will be in that ecosystem.

My iPhone 6 Plus was my favorite iPhone. I upgraded to the 7 Plus when it came out and regretted it. Now I have dongles to charge and use earphone jack at the same time, the home button implementation isn't as good. The only advantage I got was more storage and Portrait mode...BFD!

 

[catportal]

It's fair to say both Touch ID and Face ID have their benefits and drawbacks. Both features have distinct advantages (such as opening your phone with gloves / opening your phone without having to look at it). Neither merits removing the other, it would be ideal if both were present on the device. However, seems like Apple will continue to push the "superiority" of Face ID, which doesn't help the consumer.