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Hands-On With the New 2018 12.9-Inch iPad Pro

OMFG! I'd been reading a lot about how crazy fast this A12X in the Pro is but then seeing the Geekbench in that video really drove it home for me.

My desktop is a 2017 iMac 27" Intel i7 4.2Ghz (top spec Mac in '17) and it gets
Single-Core Score: 5588
Multi-Core Score: 19443

That iPad got
Single-Core Score: 5010
Multi-Core Score: 17601

=8-0

How much longer will Mac's be "Intel inside". Not much longer I'd guess...
 
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Quite happy with my 12.9” 2017 model. With the power on hand with these chips, I really hope we see more ways to leverage it. If I were to buy today, I’d probably just do the 11” model. I like the screen size of the 12.9, but whenever I pickup our classic iPad, I realize the weight differences right away. 11” seems like the best compromise.
 
SigEp265 said:
I like the square edges a lot
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I’m playing voyeur and enjoying everyone else’s until I get mine LOL. I’m out of state and had to put a hold on delivery (bought mine from B & H, NYC) until end of month. Pencil too, still debating about case. I have a gen 1 12.9 with only 128 GB which is all the early ones had so I’m anxious.
 
I haven't used a 12.9" iPad pro before.
I'm surprised to find that several big name apps are not compatible with the screen resolution. Big name apps, like Lightroom CC.
I think the screen resolution is the same as previous generation iPad Pro? Why thers are compatibility issues?
 
Seoras said:
OMFG! I'd been reading a lot about how crazy fast this A12X in the Pro is but then seeing the Geekbench in that video really drove it home for me.

My desktop is a 2017 iMac 27" Intel i7 4.2Ghz (top spec Mac in '17) and it gets
Single-Core Score: 5588
Multi-Core Score: 19443

That iPad got
Single-Core Score: 5010
Multi-Core Score: 17601

=8-0

How much longer will Mac's be "Intel inside". Not much longer I'd guess...
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The big advantage of Intel or compatible, esp. for systems often doing duty somewhere between desk/laptop vs server, is that you can run a Windows or Linux VM (or Docker for Mac) if you have something that's best done in those environments. A fast enough non-Intel could emulate, but it'd have to be a LOT faster, and for laptops, that'd be power hungry.

Phones and tablets lock you into an ecosystem, and unless you're a developer, give you very limited freedom in how you can do things. Laptops and desktops, although they may optionally offer such controls (App Store apps only, for instance), give you more flexibility; if not, there's really not that much point to them.

When the Apple ARM was truly at the level of a replacement (for both CPU and GPU/crypto/etc engines) - and probably more power-efficient, I could maybe see the point of a laptop/desktop that had both an Apple ARM CPU and an Intel CPU, where the main OS ran on the ARM, with an auxiliary kernel that ran on the Intel; and the Intel would sleep except when needed. That would allow the widest range of apps on the laptop/desktop.
 
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tjxism said:
I haven't used a 12.9" iPad pro before.
I'm surprised to find that several big name apps are not compatible with the screen resolution. Big name apps, like Lightroom CC.
I think the screen resolution is the same as previous generation iPad Pro? Why thers are compatibility issues?
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I’m not sure what you mean by this. I’m using Lightroom CC right now full screen. Works very well. Maybe I don’t understand your comment???
 
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rlhamil said:
The big advantage of Intel or compatible, esp. for systems often doing duty somewhere between desk/laptop vs server, is that you can run a Windows or Linux VM (or Docker for Mac) if you have something that's best done in those environments. A fast enough non-Intel could emulate, but it'd have to be a LOT faster, and for laptops, that'd be power hungry.

Phones and tablets lock you into an ecosystem, and unless you're a developer, give you very limited freedom in how you can do things. Laptops and desktops, although they may optionally offer such controls (App Store apps only, for instance), give you more flexibility; if not, there's really not that much point to them.

When the Apple ARM was truly at the level of a replacement (for both CPU and GPU/crypto/etc engines) - and probably more power-efficient, I could maybe see the point of a laptop/desktop that had both an Apple ARM CPU and an Intel CPU, where the main OS ran on the ARM, with an auxiliary kernel that ran on the Intel; and the Intel would sleep except when needed. That would allow the widest range of apps on the laptop/desktop.
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I remember in my first year of University studying this new CPU concept called RISC. It so happened I'd just purchased the world's first ARM powered desktop computer and decided to take a large C function and compiled it on 3 different systems. My Acorn Archimedes with it's ARM2, the faculties Intel powered Sequent server and a department Sinclair QL with it's 68000.
I wrote a paper on this and the findings were that the ARM could do the same thing using 1/4 of instructions that either CISC CPU could manage. The total opposite of what a Reduced Instruction Set CPU was supposed to do.
The Acorn guys in Cambridge (UK) didn't design ARM for mobile. They designed ARM for desktop.
It was a complete accident that it just happened to be incredibly low powered and ended up being the mobile CPU of choice.

So I think it's only fitting that the ARM returns to the platform that is was originally intended for. The desktop.
In the desktop power and heat aren't the same concern as mobile. Stick a big fan on it and run it on mains power. How much more can you crank up the A12X and future architectures?
Apple has been really good at not saddling itself with legacy support which has always been the millstone around the neck of Intel.
We are in an age now where i386 compatibility means nothing anymore.
 
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Typing this in my new one... still not sure about it... will use for a week and see. The change in cabling for charging, and the slimmer bezels (that’s a negative for me) are making me stop and evaluate if it’s worth buying nd keeping. Will evaluate for a week and return if I don’t feel the upgrade is worth the money.
 
Does the camera volcano on the back cause the iPad to wobble when resting on a flat surface?
 
nylon said:
Went to the store to check out the new 12.9" today. Still a little too heavy to use one handed. I'll be going for the 11". On another note, the industrial design is fantastic. Feels like a solid slab of metal and glass. Reminds of the slate used for pool tables only much lighter.
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I have the 12.9” model and it’s surprisingly light and can be used one-handed. Hit the gym
 
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I’m not sure what you mean by this. I’m using Lightroom CC right now full screen. Works very well. Maybe I don’t understand your comment???
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Mine isn't working full screen. There's about 4mm black bezel from the edge of interface to the true edge of screen. The UI elements are a bit messy (not the image). Same happens to VSCO.

Is this due to the rounded corners?
 

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I bought the 12.9. Amazing device.

I’ll probably swap for 11 tomorrow. I really want to love the 12.9 and what it offers, but I take my iPad everywhere and the size is not there for me.
 
tjxism said:
I haven't used a 12.9" iPad pro before.
I'm surprised to find that several big name apps are not compatible with the screen resolution. Big name apps, like Lightroom CC.
I think the screen resolution is the same as previous generation iPad Pro? Why thers are compatibility issues?
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tjxism said:
Mine isn't working full screen. There's about 4mm black bezel from the edge of interface to the true edge of screen. The UI elements are a bit messy (not the image). Same happens to VSCO.

Is this due to the rounded corners?
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There is Lightroom CC, and Lightroom CC for iPad. Are you using the right one? If so, maybe adobe needs to push an update to handle the rounded corners.
 
Just got the 11”, keyboard folio, and new pencil.

The keyboard folio has a strong, spicy odor. I noticed it as soon as I took it out of the box. The keyboard feels the same as the old one, but now it has a larger base - which is more stable when I use it on my lap.

I like that the new pencil sticks to the iPad, and charges while connected. With my old one, it looked goofy sitting in a meeting with the pencil sticking out of the end of the iPad. I also like the double-tap for erase mode.

The screen really isn’t nearly edge-to-edge (the screen is closer to the sides on the 10.5”), but I’m glad - because otherwise it would be hard to hold without accidentally interacting with the screen.

The new squared edges look and feel very good.

Now if only... Apple would add mouse support to iOS for us business users. I still have to carry a Mac or Surface Pro to work on spreadsheets, documents, diagrams, etc. My finger is not a precise cursor, and I don’t like having to reach up and touch the screen when I’m working on a document.
 
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tridley68 said:
Ordered my 12.9 I pad pro with 1 TB suppose to arrive on 11/21/2018 Super stoked hoping it will fit my book book case from twelve South from my previous 12.9 I pad pro had to settle for dark grey was hoping they would release more colors Gold would have mad this complete for my taste
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macmyworld said:
Switched from the last 12.9 to the new one today. The new 12.9 is fantastic. Love it. Speed really shows and Face ID works great.
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Just ordered mine today to replace my 12.9 2nd gen how much of a size difference between them is there thinking I could use my old twelve South book book case what do you think
 
Darmok N Jalad said:
There is Lightroom CC, and Lightroom CC for iPad. Are you using the right one? If so, maybe adobe needs to push an update to handle the rounded corners.
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Hi Darmok, it's Lightroom CC for iPad. iPhone version cannot be installed.

About half of the apps on my iPad have this issue. Didn't expect the rounded corners were going to cause trouble.

Anyway, bet the developers will fix it in no time.
 
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Question:

can iPhone share Internet connection via USB to iPad Pro ? Like what we did on a desktop/laptop Mac ?
 
tjxism said:
Hi Darmok, it's Lightroom CC for iPad. iPhone version cannot be installed.

About half of the apps on my iPad have this issue. Didn't expect the rounded corners are going to cause trouble.

Anyway, bet the developers will fix it in no time.
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Yeah, the same thing happened with the iPhone X, where apps had to be updated to account for those rounded corners.
 
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