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Hands-On With the New Journal App in the iOS 17.2 Beta
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Like Notes I’m sure they will offer a general import feature and all apps like DayOne can export to standard formats so I’m sure you’ll be able to retain eventually but until they have far more features most imported data would just go into a text box rather than being separate meta data for filtering and searching other than content, locations, time and media.
Just because you didn't ask for it and don't have interest in it, does not mean "nobody" does. Just in this thread alone, there are people interested in it.
They made a small error by neglecting to add "beta", not sure I'd call it a grave error.
I find this app hard to understand as I don’t know anyone who journals. It must a new thing that teenagers and 20 somethings do. it reminds me of the dear diary teenage girl stuff from the 90’s that us then teenage boys use to make fun off lol
Journals and diaries never stopped, you yourself just mentioned it happened in the 90s. Well it kept happening all these years.
There are multiple journal apps available. Apple should be focused on fixing bugs in their current apps instead of creating a new source of bugs.
Embarrassing that Apple needs a whole iOS Update to add a such cheap made App that masters logging text entries with a media file. 🤪
This is not exactly the best video MR has put out. Dan's never used the app before, he can't remember what was said about it at the keynote. So there's no way this is a 'review' of the app. But despite the naysayers I think this could grow well, especially since Apple will have access to personal life parameters that the likes of Day One will not. Maybe it'll help people gain insight to their lives and health including their mental health. Keen to see how it pans out. But a more informed review would be good once it's like actually out.
It’s been happening for centuries, if not millennia. Journals have always been a major resource tool for historians.
Nobody lives in Minnesota and nobody likes sports, because those things are not true for me, and the only frame of reference I am capable of conceptualizing is my own.
As some one who has interest in this new stock app but never explored journaling apps, what features does DayOne have that are ahead of Journal? I like the idea of adding Maps locations, photos and music directly from the other apps. What other options are there within DayOne?
Cheers.
I've been using Day One since it was the free app of the week, way back in early 2016. If there were ever an import option from Day One to Apple Journal, I'd give this a try. I somehow doubt the Day One developers will put any effort into that though. Day One is great, but the subscription based model is super old.
@Dan Barbera , I am curious as to whether or not the journal app can pull in daily health data like sleep, pulse ox, heart rate etc. And if so, is it all or nothing, or can you pick which data you want to automatically be part of the daily entry?
I've been using Day One for years. As another person said, it's full of features — that I mostly don't use.
So I'm super interested in trying Journal for its simplicity, and iOS integration. Similar to how I use Calendar, not Fantastical. Fantastical is gorgeous, but also a clunky hot mess for someone who just wants to glimpse at an event now and then. Similar to using Notes, versus Evernote.
I journal weekly, usually when I have insights. And similar to Dan, I like to journal during trips (when I take tons of photos) and other moments. So I want to see how Journal might pull those things in automatically, or organize them automatically, etc.
One feature about Day One that I love is tying a song to an entry. If Journal integrates songs — especially in a more dynamic and present way than Day One, where it's hidden in a menu — I'd love Journal for it.
The only little feature I might miss from Day One is that I use the internal app links to cross-reference journals. It took Notes 16 years to get that feature, who knows when Journal might get it, if ever…
Also — and this is sort of odd — but I really like Journal's suggestions so far. I've never used this in any diary app. But I'm inclined to answer the ones Journal is prompting me with; I automatically have an answer or insight into what it's asking, so why not?
Interesting that it appears Apple made it a purple app, changed from the keynote's white app. It joins Podcast as the only other purple app? I might like the light/white version more. EDIT: I see it only goes purple in Dark Mode, instead of black. The purple is indeed nice for Dark Mode.
EDIT 2:
Just got it installed. Since this is my actual phone, it pulls in data from other places on the phone, like Music and Photos.
Yep, the music integration is SUPERIOR to Day One. With Day One, it's just a metadata attachment; in Journal, it's a minimal player with a text where you could actually reflect on the songs. Music — especially when first discovered — can serve as its own moment in my life, with its own thoughts, so this is pretty nifty. And I often discover super meaningful songs, then forget them in a playlist. Journal immediately pulled out a group of songs I would never consciously remember listening to several days ago.
As for Photos, it's pulling up some interesting moments from the past. Seems like it's targeting time periods that have multiple photos taken within it, constituting an "event." I could certainly write about some of these, though they're pretty far in the past. When it comes to photo-moments, I might describe Journal as the "text companion" for the visual moments that the Photos library generates. I'll have to see how this handles with new moments/photos in the future and in real-time. That'll be more useful for me.
So the way it's looking, the way I might contrast Journal with Day One, is that Journal is a "text companion" for multiple other areas of iOS activity. Music. Photos. Someone else mentioned it pulled in a hike.
Imagine going on a hike where something interesting happens and you take photos, or the perfect song comes up and makes you think of something. Journal would 'automate reflection' on those types of things it seems.
So I'm super interested in trying Journal for its simplicity, and iOS integration. Similar to how I use Calendar, not Fantastical. Fantastical is gorgeous, but also a clunky hot mess for someone who just wants to glimpse at an event now and then. Similar to using Notes, versus Evernote.
I journal weekly, usually when I have insights. And similar to Dan, I like to journal during trips (when I take tons of photos) and other moments. So I want to see how Journal might pull those things in automatically, or organize them automatically, etc.
One feature about Day One that I love is tying a song to an entry. If Journal integrates songs — especially in a more dynamic and present way than Day One, where it's hidden in a menu — I'd love Journal for it.
The only little feature I might miss from Day One is that I use the internal app links to cross-reference journals. It took Notes 16 years to get that feature, who knows when Journal might get it, if ever…
Also — and this is sort of odd — but I really like Journal's suggestions so far. I've never used this in any diary app. But I'm inclined to answer the ones Journal is prompting me with; I automatically have an answer or insight into what it's asking, so why not?
Interesting that it appears Apple made it a purple app, changed from the keynote's white app. It joins Podcast as the only other purple app? I might like the light/white version more. EDIT: I see it only goes purple in Dark Mode, instead of black. The purple is indeed nice for Dark Mode.
EDIT 2:
Just got it installed. Since this is my actual phone, it pulls in data from other places on the phone, like Music and Photos.
Yep, the music integration is SUPERIOR to Day One. With Day One, it's just a metadata attachment; in Journal, it's a minimal player with a text where you could actually reflect on the songs. Music — especially when first discovered — can serve as its own moment in my life, with its own thoughts, so this is pretty nifty. And I often discover super meaningful songs, then forget them in a playlist. Journal immediately pulled out a group of songs I would never consciously remember listening to several days ago.
As for Photos, it's pulling up some interesting moments from the past. Seems like it's targeting time periods that have multiple photos taken within it, constituting an "event." I could certainly write about some of these, though they're pretty far in the past. When it comes to photo-moments, I might describe Journal as the "text companion" for the visual moments that the Photos library generates. I'll have to see how this handles with new moments/photos in the future and in real-time. That'll be more useful for me.
So the way it's looking, the way I might contrast Journal with Day One, is that Journal is a "text companion" for multiple other areas of iOS activity. Music. Photos. Someone else mentioned it pulled in a hike.
Imagine going on a hike where something interesting happens and you take photos, or the perfect song comes up and makes you think of something. Journal would 'automate reflection' on those types of things it seems.
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Typical Apple fashion, there isn’t an iPad version, the best tool that have to actually do journaling.
