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techfreak23

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Bezel-Free designs looks nice and all, but are they practical...? I love my iPhone X, but there are definitely plenty of times when the thinner bezels absolutely annoy me
 
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It does have waterproofing. Wireless charging is just a "spec". USB-C and warp charging is far better.

The resale value of our iPhone won't even begin to cover the Apple tax you paid to have it in the first place.

Correct. The XS Max for instance on Swappa right now is bringing about $850-900 (not listed for, the actual ones sold); they cost $1099 new. So they basically have lost $200-250 of value to date without the new phone announced, so that will go down a bit too.

This is a $669 phone. You dont think you could get $400-450 in a year too for the same $200-50 cost of ownership?

The lowest model 6T are selling for about $400 right now and cost $549 new. They haven't lost much value even with the new phone announced today. Even the Oneplus 6 is selling for $375 still when $529 new.

Their phones dont nosedive in price like Samsung do (they are already $150-200 off the S10 line on sale)
 

apolloa

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Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
Now that’s how you make a display, but if it means having a pop up camera that will break after a few months, I’d rather have a notch..
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Cheaper than the XS? It's a lot cheaper than the XR, proving just what overpriced trash that phone is.

Yeap, and with a rather good OLED screen of considerable size, yet apparently we keep being told Apple won’t fit an OLED to the XR because it costs too much! Rofl if you believe that you’ll believe anything! With any luck Apple will fit an OLED into it next year, unless their profiteering greed continues.
 

jagolden

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A pop-up camera!? And people are complaining about the camera bump on the upcoming iPhones! Now there’s a nice weak point mechanical wise.
And describing it as bezeless is incorrect. There is clearly a frame/bezel around the entire screen. To be bezeless the glass would need to wrap around all 4 sides.
I saw the word "elegant" used. Nothing elegant going on here. Even the Galaxy S10 looks better.
 

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A pop-up camera!? And people are complaining about the camera bump on the upcoming iPhones! Now there’s a nice weak point mechanical wise.

Not everyone is a teenage girl "Instagram model" and uses a selfie camera or cares about it for the few times they will use it in the phone's lifetime. Despite what out social media obsessed culture wants you to believe that everyone is obsessed with taking photos and showing their lives off on the internet.

If you dont use it then it can't really break. But you cannot put away a camera bump or notch out of sight.

Popup camera>notch any day for me for the maybe 10 times I will ever use the front camera in a year vs hundreds of times a day looking at the display
 
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Zwhaler

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Someone may need to do a DFMEA on this.
What happens when the phone slips out of hand when taking selfie with the motorized camera stuck out?
It auto-retracts when it detects free fall.
 

Khedron

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Yeap, and with a rather good OLED screen of considerable size, yet apparently we keep being told Apple won’t fit an OLED to the XR because it costs too much! Rofl if you believe that you’ll believe anything! With any luck Apple will fit an OLED into it next year, unless their profiteering greed continues.

The same people who believe Apple has some magical RAM management techniques that make 3GB of RAM outperform 12GB.

Definitely not just an excuse to cut costs, and these "techniques" are definitely not just removing split-screen multitasking from the OS.
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Not everyone is a teenage girl "Instagram model" and uses a selfie camera or cares about it for the few times they will use it in the phone's lifetime. Despite what out social media obsessed culture wants you to believe that everyone is obsessed with taking photos and showing their lives off on the internet.

If you dont use it then it can't really break. But you cannot put away a camera bump or notch out of sight.

Popup camera>notch any day for me for the maybe 10 times I will ever use the front camera in a year vs hundreds of times a day looking at the display

Yes, I use the front camera a few times a month for video calls. Not worth a persistent removal of screen space for me.
 

jagolden

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I’ll grant for people that are OK using Android, it looks like a nice phone for the money!
But I can’t get past the design, looks like something from the 70’s or 80’s. Does it come with a polyester suit? :)
 

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I think the pop-up camera is an interesting concept, but likely more to go wrong with it being somewhat mechanical, I still prefer Face ID with the notch, as that has always been a non-issue with me.
 

shanson27

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The iPhone chin is still smaller
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Internet Enzyme

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OnePlus today unveiled its latest flagship smartphone, the OnePlus 7 Pro, which offers an impressive feature set at a price that beats out flagship devices from other smartphone manufacturers, including Apple.

We were able to go hands-on with the OnePlus 7 Pro at the OnePlus event this morning, so we thought we'd give MacRumors readers a look at the bezel-free display and pop-up camera, both of which are great smartphone features.


The OnePlus 7 Pro is all display, with a 6.67-inch OLED screen that takes up the entire front of the device. There are no camera cutouts or notches on the display at all, and that's because OnePlus is using a nifty little front-facing camera that pops out of the back of the phone when you want to use it.

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It's a feature that's unique to the OnePlus device, and it allows for an edge-to-edge top-to-bottom bezel-free display without sacrificing the selfie camera. The little pop out camera seems rather durable, though we'll have to see how it holds up over time.

OnePlus uploaded a video demonstrating the camera opening and closing more than 300,000 times (it's 12 hours long!) and another video that demonstrated it lifting up a rock, so it certainly seems to be able to hold up to abuse.

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Though it's got a 6.67-inch display, the OnePlus 7 Pro is similar in size to the iPhone XS Max, just because there's no bezels to deal with. The display does curve around the edges of the device, which some may not like, but it looks undeniably good.

OnePlus calls the display a "Fluid AMOLED" display because it has a 90Hz refresh rate, a concept similar to the 120Hz refresh rate on the iPad Pro models. That refresh rate is more noticeable on a smaller device, and scrolling through the OS is super smooth.

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Aside from the standout display and the unique pop-up front-facing camera, the OnePlus 7 Pro has some pretty decent specs. There's a triple-lens camera with telephoto, wide-angle, and ultra wide-angle lenses, an under-display fingerprint sensor, a Snapdragon 855 chip, up to 12GB RAM, up to 256GB storage, a 4,000mAh battery, and a fast charging feature.

On the downside, the OnePlus 7 Pro doesn't offer wireless charging like many other smartphones on the market, nor does it have an Ingress Protection rating for water resistance. And of course there's one other major downside for Apple fans -- it runs Android.

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OnePlus is charging more for this year's flagship OnePlus smartphone, and the 7 Pro is priced starting at $669. That's still quite a bit cheaper than the iPhone XS and flagship smartphones from other companies like Samsung, even though it's using some pretty high-end hardware.

What do you think of the OnePlus 7 Pro and the pop-up selfie cam? Let us know in the comments. We'll be taking a closer look at the OnePlus 7 Pro and comparing it to the iPhone XS Max in a future video, so keep an eye out for that.

Article Link: Hands-On With the OnePlus 7 Pro's New Pop-Up Camera and Bezel-Free Display

First thing that caught my eye is how the corner radius of the screen and the bezel dont match
 
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jazstudio

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Seriously? Those are the two main things you took away from this?

Well moving parts are a big issue. All you need is a little sand to get in there and now you're back at the OnePlus store (if there is such a thing) trying to get a replacement. If there was a OnePlus rumors page (I have no idea), the next major headline would be "Numerous Users Complain of Stuck Camera, Class Action Pending".
 

szw-mapple fan

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This is just the flagship OPPO phone with OnePlus branding, just like every other model OnePlus released over the years. I don't know why they even bother having these events. There is literally nothing new here.
 
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Kabeyun

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Lmao! Yeah, that won’t break ever!

And maybe that one reason why the warranty doesn’t cover water damage.

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The phone is waterproof just not officially certified. The certification is a useless expense just for marketing and pushing up the price. Apple phones are certified but they will refuse any warranty claims for phones that have been in water, so it's meaningless.
Know what else is meaningless? Your idea that it’s “waterproof just not officially certified.” After I stopped laughing, I looked it up and found that OnePlus’s warranty does not cover water damage either. When your 7 Pro gets wet and stops working, that’s all that matters. If it were actually waterproof, they’d cover water damage regardless of no certification.

Maybe stop picking on Apple when the same applies here.
 
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MadeTheSwitch

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“It's a feature that's unique to the OnePlus device”? No way, Xiaomi patented this idea on 2015, last year Vivo already released multiple models of phones featuring pop-up camera!

Yes I caught that too. Too bad the author didn’t. I wonder why they said that or where they got that wrong opinion from?
 
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