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Bought a new iPhone every other year since the 3G, and this is my first pass on a new model...although I'm buying an SE, so they're still getting my money.
 
I have to admit an upgrade from the 6 is hard to stomach. I so wanted to love the iPhone 7. I envisioned setting an alarm and preordering through the Apple Store App. But after watching the entire event, I feel like the 7 is great tech that doesn't do anything I can't already do. Its like a car that goes 290mph when I can only drive 80mph if lucky. I had hoped for something new to excite me. But they gave us the same but better, with a little less. I can save a lot of money and do everything, however much slower, with my old iPhone 6. This is the first iPhone release event where I lost interest.

And those AirPods look awful to me. I have no interest in having hard plastic in my ear and anything but discrete white stems sticking out. Again, great tech with meh interest.

Hopefully I am an outlier in my viewpoints. I remain an Apple fan. But my initial reactions aren't exciting.
I agree with most. My 6 is working just fine and the 7 is only 2X faster than my 6!! My 6 still feels pretty fast to me! And the screen is the same ppi. Next year will probably be amoled. That Jet Black is soooo tempting though but all in all it's pretty much the same phone as the 6. I could care less about force touch and i like not having to charge my wired ear buds when I go for a run. This will probably be my first time not updating after 2 years.
 
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calling this a poor upgrade makes no sense. Virtually every aspect of the phone changed.

-better screen
-better camera
-improved design
-better GPU/CPU


The problem is not with the upgrade. The problem is phones have hit a peak, and it is really hard to justify upgrading every single year with the price of cell phones.

Definitely. Clearly Apple has moved the technology bar forward. I applaud that. A10 alone is years ahead. But as a consumer, better but nothing really new for lots of money is hard when good enough is already in my hands. Maybe I will soften after I have time to process. But as a user, maybe I can live with what I have. That's not what I hoped for. I wanted to buy the hype and buy the next iPhone.

I've been using Apple products since the 1980s. Apple always sold me with creativity and innovation over pure technology horse power. Now they are in a mode where they have the horsepower, but the creativity and innovation is apparently coming, just not today. The foundation is beyond solid. I am ready for a new structure.
 
I have to admit an upgrade from the 6 is hard to stomach. I so wanted to love the iPhone 7. I envisioned setting an alarm and preordering through the Apple Store App. But after watching the entire event, I feel like the 7 is great tech that doesn't do anything I can't already do. Its like a car that goes 290mph when I can only drive 80mph if lucky. I had hoped for something new to excite me. But they gave us the same but better, with a little less. I can save a lot of money and do everything, however much slower, with my old iPhone 6. This is the first iPhone release event where I lost interest.

And those AirPods look awful to me. I have no interest in having hard plastic in my ear and anything but discrete white stems sticking out. Again, great tech with meh interest.

Hopefully I am an outlier in my viewpoints. I remain an Apple fan. But my initial reactions aren't exciting.

iOS 10 is night and day with 3d touch. There's a reason to upgrade.
 
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Im going to stick with my iPhone 6 for another year.

Cant justify spending £819 on a 128GB iPhone 7 Plus!
 
Apple is just removing things that don't matter and in the world of Bluetooth and similar wireless technologies, wired headphones are obsolete, it's the same thought process everyone had with the removal of the floppy disk. No one thought they'd be without a floppy disk, now floppy disks can barely hold a lengthy document or a large spreadsheet with macros. Forget presentations.

I've seen this comparison many times, and it's not appropriate. When Apple removed the floppy, people thought they did it a bit early, but everyone knew the floppy's days were numbered. People had been trying to develop a standard to replace it for years already by that point, with Zip disks and LS120, but no one settled on a standard. Apple just said 'screw it' and removed it to force alternate technologies to be developed and standardized.

However, no one is clamoring for the 3.5mm jack to go away. No one is saying 'well, it's days are numbered....we need to find a better replacement.' It's a universal standard that has been around for decades upon decades and is very small, works extremely well, has compatibility with a billion existing headphones and can produce amazing sound quality. There is literally no 'problem' that is being solved with the removal of the jack. The headphone jack was removed for one reason only: so Apple could reap cash from the licensing fees that accessory makers have to pay in order to use the lightning connector.

I'd be less upset about the removal of the headphone jack if they had also decided to drop lightning and go to USB-C. Lightning is a great connector, but it's proprietary, and all other phones are going to USB-C (mine has it now), Apple is putting USB-C ports on its other devices (Apple TV4, new Macs), and USB-C is showing up on PC motherboards (my new build has one) as well. If an all-in-one port is the goal, then a universal one is the solution, especially when you're removing a universal connector. As it is now, you will either need to carry an adapter or carry two sets of headphones if you have a desire to use the same headphones on multiple devices. Want to listen to music on your phone and then plug in to your laptop to watch videos? Two sets of headphones, or hope you remembered your adapter. And what adapter is that? Oh yes, the one for 3.5mm headphones....so you're not even using the new headphones and whatever supposed benefits (of which, from what I can tell, are none). Those lightning earpods? Can't use them on ANYTHING else except your Apple mobile devices, as they don't make a lightning to 3.5mm adapter, just a 3.5mm to lightning.

It's a cash grab disguised as forward thinking, and forces you to exchange a universal standard for a proprietary one.
 
It's a solid upgrade. Not amazing, but things like that dual-camera bokeh capability is truly amazing and will forever change phone photography—and possibly general photography—mark my words!

I'm also a photographer and hate iPhone Plus sized devices, but damn this is tempting to have near dSLR quality on me at all times.

I mentioned in another post, that when my wife and I went on vacation, we didn't mind swapping out the D3300 for the 6S Plus cameras when we were in a pinch, the DLSR does give a clearer image but it also has twice the photo resolution. The cameras are already good enough for every day pictures and are better than the old disposables, for distant shots or shots requiring a great deal of detail or artistic touches we'd use the DSLR.
 
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Some people really have no common sense. I bet you are one the people who think the note 7 was a major jump from the note 5? Lets take a look...

iphone 7-

Better battery
Better camera
Better screen
Better home button
waterproof
better processor
better GPU
Retooled design

Note 7

better camera
better battery
waterproof
blah blah blah

Whats the difference???

One they get to bash Apple about only minor upgrades and the other....oh wait, they will still bash Apple.

You are right, there is no difference! ;)
 
I've seen this comparison many times, and it's not appropriate. When Apple removed the floppy, people thought they did it a bit early, but everyone knew the floppy's days were numbered. People had been trying to develop a standard to replace it for years already by that point, with Zip disks and LS120, but no one settled on a standard. Apple just said 'screw it' and removed it to force alternate technologies to be developed and standardized.

However, no one is clamoring for the 3.5mm jack to go away. No one is saying 'well, it's days are numbered....we need to find a better replacement.' It's a universal standard that has been around for decades upon decades and is very small, works extremely well, has compatibility with a billion existing headphones and can produce amazing sound quality. There is literally no 'problem' that is being solved with the removal of the jack. The headphone jack was removed for one reason only: so Apple could reap cash from the licensing fees that accessory makers have to pay in order to use the lightning connector.

I'd be less upset about the removal of the headphone jack if they had also decided to drop lightning and go to USB-C. Lightning is a great connector, but it's proprietary, and all other phones are going to USB-C (mine has it now), Apple is putting USB-C ports on its other devices (Apple TV4, new Macs), and USB-C is showing up on PC motherboards (my new build has one) as well. If an all-in-one port is the goal, then a universal one is the solution, especially when you're removing a universal connector. As it is now, you will either need to carry an adapter or carry two sets of headphones if you have a desire to use the same headphones on multiple devices. Want to listen to music on your phone and then plug in to your laptop to watch videos? Two sets of headphones, or hope you remembered your adapter. And what adapter is that? Oh yes, the one for 3.5mm headphones....so you're not even using the new headphones and whatever supposed benefits (of which, from what I can tell, are none). Those lightning earpods? Can't use them on ANYTHING else except your Apple mobile devices, as they don't make a lightning to 3.5mm adapter, just a 3.5mm to lightning.

It's a cash grab disguised as forward thinking, and forces you to exchange a universal standard for a proprietary one.

This times a million. Ultimately, sound through speakers/headphones has to be converted to an analog signal some where in the chain, so Apple just changed the location of the conversion.

At least with the first iPhone, while one needed to use an adapter for 3rd party headphones, the iPhone headphones could be shared with other devices. Now we're left with adapters for various situations, which, while doable for my Macbook being carried in a bag, is a big deal if we're talking about carrying them around in my pants pockets.
 
I've seen this comparison many times, and it's not appropriate. When Apple removed the floppy, people thought they did it a bit early, but everyone knew the floppy's days were numbered. People had been trying to develop a standard to replace it for years already by that point, with Zip disks and LS120, but no one settled on a standard. Apple just said 'screw it' and removed it to force alternate technologies to be developed and standardized.

However, no one is clamoring for the 3.5mm jack to go away. No one is saying 'well, it's days are numbered....we need to find a better replacement.' It's a universal standard that has been around for decades upon decades and is very small, works extremely well, has compatibility with a billion existing headphones and can produce amazing sound quality. There is literally no 'problem' that is being solved with the removal of the jack. The headphone jack was removed for one reason only: so Apple could reap cash from the licensing fees that accessory makers have to pay in order to use the lightning connector.

I'd be less upset about the removal of the headphone jack if they had also decided to drop lightning and go to USB-C. Lightning is a great connector, but it's proprietary, and all other phones are going to USB-C (mine has it now), Apple is putting USB-C ports on its other devices (Apple TV4, new Macs), and USB-C is showing up on PC motherboards (my new build has one) as well. If an all-in-one port is the goal, then a universal one is the solution, especially when you're removing a universal connector. As it is now, you will either need to carry an adapter or carry two sets of headphones if you have a desire to use the same headphones on multiple devices. Want to listen to music on your phone and then plug in to your laptop to watch videos? Two sets of headphones, or hope you remembered your adapter. And what adapter is that? Oh yes, the one for 3.5mm headphones....so you're not even using the new headphones and whatever supposed benefits (of which, from what I can tell, are none). Those lightning earpods? Can't use them on ANYTHING else except your Apple mobile devices, as they don't make a lightning to 3.5mm adapter, just a 3.5mm to lightning.

It's a cash grab disguised as forward thinking, and forces you to exchange a universal standard for a proprietary one.

Yes it's true you can only use airpods on Apple devices (as it hasn't been deemed that they can't connect to standard Bluetooth), but you can use Bluetooth headphones on the new iPhone, so Bluetooth is still the universal connector. It is very much a cash grab for them, another mechanism to lock you into the Apple ecosystem, but that's if you actually care about using the airpods instead of swapping them out for your jawbone or your Bluetooth Bose headphones.

I don't disagree with your statement, it is valid in many points, but I do see it differently. Perhaps the exclusion of the optical disk drive might be a better example, people still use them today, they were removed too soon, but with the emergence of digital downloads and everything being stored in the cloud, how necessary are they really?

Same point with wired headphones, how necessary are they? How many other devices do you use wired headphones without Bluetooth connectivity? They did include a 3.5mm jack in the box for those who just can't let go.
 
Huge upgrades imo

Amazing new colors
waterproof finally
insane camera technology
new home button

What else do people want?!!

Day 1

Perhaps an accurate post? :)

It's only an hour or so since the announcement and mistakes are appearing.

The iPhone 7 is not waterproof. It is splash and water resistant.
 
Since my two-year plan is officially over, switching over to the iPhone Upgrade Program starting with the iPhone 7. So I'm in need of an upgrade anyways. :)
 
Most all the hardware upgrades these days are incremental. And with all the upgrade contracts now prevalent in carrier-land, Apple is kinda locked into one year cycles of upgrades. If you don't like it, skip a year. No biggie. Those of us now paying full price in installment plans will flip our phones though; sorta no reason not to.

If you're a photographer this 7 is kinda big. A wide gamut screen means you can now proof some stuff on an iOS device (notice how all the presenters talked about how the projectors couldn't show the colors? that's true of most monitors as well). So even if you're not tempted to use the cameras the phone is gonna be valuable for that alone. Not to mention the RAW support.
 
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Not sure what people really expect at this point in time. Phones have come very far but there's only so much more that can be done. Once Apple incorporates better screens and wireless charging what's left really? Their chip and camera teams will continue to bump up performance year after year and iOS will get more features, but realistically we're approaching the end of "mind blowing" new features and getting into the era of incremental improvements. Even the most creative and innovative people will hit a wall eventually.
 
Perhaps an accurate post? :)

It's only an hour or so since the announcement and mistakes are appearing.

The iPhone 7 is not waterproof. It is splash and water resistant.
At the same time enough to be dropped in the pool it seems, based on the photo Apple used to "promote" it when talking about it during the keynote. For most people that is more than enough.
 
Same point with wired headphones, how necessary are they? How many other devices do you use wired headphones without Bluetooth connectivity? They did include a 3.5mm jack in the box for those who just can't let go.

My wife's car, my various sets of wired headphones that I keep in different locations (home, studio, office, etc.), and my instrument input that goes into my lightening connecter (and allows my to monitor via the 3.5mm jack) all require the use of the 3.5mm jack. Removing the jack would affect me immediately and often.

I do use bluetooth audio with some devices, too...which is why having both options is a no-brainer, to me.
 
Same diff :)


Water damage not covered by warranty

So if you use it in the rain and it gets damaged its not c0vered
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At the same time enough to be dropped in the pool it seems, based on the photo Apple used to "promote" it when talking about it during the keynote. For most people that is more than enough.


iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water and dust resistant, and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.
 
How much thinner does the phone need to be? It's definitely a risk Apple is choosing to take, just seems hard to justify forcing people to use an adapter for their own proprietary jack, USB C I can see though.
My preference that I know has 0% chance of ever happening would be for Apple to go back to the thickness of the 4 and 4S, that was thin enough without getting too thin, the 5's thickness would be ok too, but even that was starting to push it.
 
Same point with wired headphones, how necessary are they? How many other devices do you use wired headphones without Bluetooth connectivity? They did include a 3.5mm jack in the box for those who just can't let go.

I don't own a single set of wireless headphones, and I have no desire at the moment to go buy them. 1) they're very expensive for decent ones, and 2) I have to remember to charge my headphones. I'm more talking about the wired kind, as wireless is an option if you want it, and it has no impact on the jack. I use bluetooth in my car and for a bluetooth speaker at home, but if I'm traveling, I want wired headphones, and I don't want to have to keep track of an adapter or bring two different pairs so I can use one for my phone and one for my laptop.
 
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