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Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows - WITH SPOILERS
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To be honest there were a couple of other sections that didn't seem to make sense and it's not something I've noticed in the rest of the series (or I don't remember noticing so much). At the time I put these others down to the pace at which I was reading, but the original point of discussion definitely felt wrong.
I've gone back to my other book now but once that's finished I'll likely re-read HP7 at a more relaxed speed so will be able to double check.
Just finished up in one marathon session. Loved it! Thought the ending was handled brilliantly.
One question, that I'm too lazy to go back and re-read:
Why did Voldemort choose things from other houses to be made into Horcruxes?
One question, that I'm too lazy to go back and re-read:
Why did Voldemort choose things from other houses to be made into Horcruxes?
He chose things of major significance and value - and obviously things that were within his grasp at the time. I don't quite get Nagini as one (that's never really explained - ever) but the rest are all quite significant items. Someone else may well be able to explain better.
I only heard what happens from a friend shouting it to me but she has me very interested...think Ima steal it from her when shes not looking.
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My question CONTAINS spoliers .
What the hell is the place on the front of the US front cover, someone said that it was THE FINAL BATTLE AT HOGWARTS but no matter how you look at it, it looks nothing like HOGWARTS And why does HARRY NOT HAVE A WAND,(DID THE EXPELLIARMIUS HIT HIM, THUS DISARMING HIM)?
What the hell is the place on the front of the US front cover, someone said that it was THE FINAL BATTLE AT HOGWARTS but no matter how you look at it, it looks nothing like HOGWARTS And why does HARRY NOT HAVE A WAND,(DID THE EXPELLIARMIUS HIT HIM, THUS DISARMING HIM)?
I'm pretty sure that's when the Elder Wand flies up into the air after the Avada Kedavra / Expelliarmus duel in the Great Hall. Rowling said, "A red-gold glow burst suddenly across the enchanted sky above them as an edge of dazzling sun appeared over the sill of the nearest window," which accounts for the enchanted sky's color on the cover. You can also see the silhouettes of other people in the background watching as Voldemort and Harry duel.
sorry to drag this on but it dosnt really look like the great hall, thats my main reason for being puzzled apart froom this, it was a superb book. beyond expectations, but Harry is such a fool, he had all three hallows, it wouldnt be hard to find the ring, yet he declined, he should have atleast kept the elder wand for a bit, you know, show off for a few days, he could have reparoed hogwarts in about 5 seconds, but know, he has to be boring and give it back... Also is vatorie or whtever her name is Delacour and weasleys daughter? Im so glad that it was so adult orintated, i.e not like philliosphers stone
I have a question: How did Neville get the sword??? Did the hat give it to him? Was it explained?
Dumbledore has a go in Book 6 at guessing why Nagini was a Horcrux. His theory (and therefore Rowling's presumably) was that Voldemort saved Horcrux making for significant deaths and would have used Harry's death to make his final one. With the curse backfiring, he was left with only 5 Horcruxes (and Harry inadvertently). Dumbledore suggests that the final Horcrux wasn't made until the Goblet of Fire when Voldemort uses Nagini to kill the Muggle caretaker who is investigating the light in the supposedly deserted Riddle home.
There was an article on the BBC website on Friday explaining that very thing - no spoilers aside from speculation since it was pre-publication.
I'd agree but how did it get back there? Wasn't the last we saw of Gryffindor's sword when Harry and the others were captured so presumably in the possession of Fenrir the werewolf or at the Malfoys' mansion. Do we assume that somehow it got back to Snape who replaced it in the Sorting Hat?
No, that was the fake one. The goblin has/had the real one. He took it at Gringotts. Could the sorting hat have "taken it" from the goblin?
Forgot about that in trying to find an explanation! Hmm... perhaps the Sorting Hat has more magic than we know about. Perhaps it's a little like the Room of Requirement - whatever a true Gryffindor needs will come out?
I agree! That is an EXCELLENT piece of pre-publication writing! Nice history there with Authurian legend. I read Rowlings other Harry Potter "spin-off" books, and the Magical Creatures book is chock full of interesting bits.
I agree... the Sort Hat is da bomb.
It belonged to the head of Griffindore house, so its certainly got powerful magic in it. I have to say, when Harry retrieved the sword from it in Chamber of Secrets, the ultimate question, is "where was it before it appeared in the hat?" I would imagine the answer could be "almost anywhere" where it is not magically encumbered/restrained. I doubt the sword just sits around INSIDE the hat until its needed. I think the hat has the power to summon it, without so much as an "acio sword of griffindore!"~ CB
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I just finished the book (I tried to savor it and spread it out over a few days, as I read the last one in like 10 hours). I'm quite saddened by the fact that it was the last of the books.
I truly have grown up with Harry PotterI was 11 or so when I read the first bookand I've been roughly the same age as Harry, Ron and Hermione ever since. Almost a decade of my life has been spent longing for 'the next book', and, for the first time I can only hope that there will be another, some time in the future.
I truly hope, and honestly believe, that JKR will write a real epilogue and tie up the loose ends. I think that once she has had a few years to explore her writing in other ways, it would not be much of a reach to expect another Potter book. Really this one has been left extremely open endedit begs for some sort of real closure, or continuation, for these characters who we all know so intimately.
In the meantime I'm going to reread the entire series from 1-7 (I've read it through at least 4 times so far) and complete my 3 collections: American, British and French copies of all of the books.
I just finished the book (I tried to savor it and spread it out over a few days, as I read the last one in like 10 hours). I'm quite saddened by the fact that it was the last of the books.
I truly have grown up with Harry PotterI was 11 or so when I read the first bookand I've been roughly the same age as Harry, Ron and Hermione ever since. Almost a decade of my life has been spent longing for 'the next book', and, for the first time I can only hope that there will be another, some time in the future.
I truly hope, and honestly believe, that JKR will write a real epilogue and tie up the loose ends. I think that once she has had a few years to explore her writing in other ways, it would not be much of a reach to expect another Potter book. Really this one has been left extremely open endedit begs for some sort of real closure, or continuation, for these characters who we all know so intimately.
In the meantime I'm going to reread the entire series from 1-7 (I've read it through at least 4 times so far) and complete my 3 collections: American, British and French copies of all of the books.
Just finished reading it myself. Though I kind of though that Harry's "resurrection" was a bit lame, but then again I wasn't totally awake when I read that part so maybe I missed something.
What I didn't get is how Harry killed Voldemort. This also might have had to do with not being completely awake.
What I didn't get is how Harry killed Voldemort. This also might have had to do with not being completely awake.
I didn't get that either. If Voldermort can't kill harry because of Lily's protection, and that same protection now run through Voldy, and it's Voldy's spell that's trying to kill someone (himself) who has protection from him.. how in heaven's name does that work?
I'd say that the answer lies in the fact that Harry now had control of the Elder Wand, which superseded the other 'rules' in effect. Biggest wand wins.
I'd say that the answer lies in the fact that Harry now had control of the Elder Wand, which superseded the other 'rules' in effect. Biggest wand wins.
The Elder Wand refused to kill it's master, Harry.
The only swearing that was new to this book was "bitch" which surprised me a little. The books have had increasingly more mild swearing like "effing", damn, hell, etc. I can see why a parent might be concerned, but the earlier books have already had it, and any kid too young for that language is probably also too young for tons of gory violent deaths.
Personally, I loved it. Great book, and great ending that tied up all the important loose ends.
Personally, I loved it. Great book, and great ending that tied up all the important loose ends.
Ah okay, I think I get it now. So when Voldemort used Avada Kedavra the Elder Wand recognized Harry as it's master, and rebounded back onto Voldy, breaking the protection and killing him?
ghall: absolutely correct.
I am a bit sad that this was the final book, and wish that she had tied up a few more loose ends, but I thought the book was outstanding! Definitely one of my favorites of the series.
I am a bit sad that this was the final book, and wish that she had tied up a few more loose ends, but I thought the book was outstanding! Definitely one of my favorites of the series.
Nah. It's all wrapped up nicely here. You don't want her to close the door, understandable, but this is it, sportfans. Game over.
Meh... name your loose end you wish she'd tied up. I think she tied up mostly everything. The only things still "open" are only open due to the nature of storytelling in general. By simply providing a descriptive world, some people will be more attracted to the filler material or "extra" bits than others. The world is so rich, I bet people could tell stories "inside" that world forever. For instance, I'd personally love to write a few short stories about all the hidden secrets in the Room of Requirement. I guess that's what fan fiction is for, though.
Considering Rowling dodged the FINAL BODY COUNT at the end of the book, I'm sure many fans are wondering what the final fate of many secondary characters were. But, Rowling has an appreciation for what bits are ultimately irrelevant (read her website for things/subplots she's totally cut out over the years). Fans could easily imagine "epilogues" for every single character in the story, like some crazy college comedy flick. Me, I think there's a limit to indulging the full depths of fan curiosity.
~ CB
