That won’t work. You have to consider competitor value against the iPhone and then Apples main source of revenue is generated from the iPhone as well, so I’m not entirely sure the investors would be happy if they were releasing an iPhone every two years instead of one. Especially given that I believe the iPhone is 60% or more of their net revenue.
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iPhone XS Has anybody noticed how many people don't upgrade nowadays?
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That won’t work. You have to consider competitor value against the iPhone and then Apples main source of revenue is generated from the iPhone as well, so I’m not entirely sure the investors would be happy if they were releasing an iPhone every two years instead of one. Especially given that I believe the iPhone is 60% or more of their net revenue.
iPads are not tempting for me. I don’t really see a need for them. But yah... Apple Watch. I’m seriously contemplating going to rehab lol jk
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The key is cash back. Like for me spend $1000 get $200 cash back.The trouble is that people are quick to renew or upgrade phone contracts and don't realise that buying a one year older phone, whether new or refurbished can save them alot of money.
Only 12 months ago people were drolling over the holygrail £1,000 iPhone X. Now you can pick up a mint refurbished one for £650. In a few months after used Xr models have flooded the market the iPhone X will be £500-600.
Why pay 24 x £83 = £1,992
When 12 months later you can buy the phone for £600 and use a cheap pay monthly deal that will cost you £384(£16x24) over 24 months. Boom! Just like that you are spending £984 on a phone over 24 month instead of £1,999. That's enough money left for an expensive holiday, saving for a house, new Laptop or 50 inch TV.
My SIM only plan is only £16 with unlimited calls, text, 30GB data and free roaming in the US and EU.
If you don't have £600 to buy a phone outright then get an interest free credit card. Pay £60 for 10 months and the phone will be yours.
Seriously. It's not that hard to have a flagship phone without spending stupid money.
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Is there anyone clambering for a folding phone?
People want better camera and battery life. I have never read an article when someone said Jeeeez I want to fold my phone in half.
I mean it’s great tech I just don’t see it as a huge deal
I loved my 7+ but upgraded to the x last year because of a new form factor. I loved the x but because the xs max came out, I upgraded again. If the max wasn’t available, I would not have upgraded this year. Normally I would keep my phones for at least two years. I’m hoping to keep this xs max for at least 2 years, provided Apple does not change form factor again next year.
Would you feel added pressure from your peers or inner self if you owned an iPhone that didn’t look like it was the current model? I’ve just upgraded to an 8+ on a two year contract and for me the fact it looks older to tech enthusiasts doesn’t matter as I come into contact with very few day to day, not to mention it doesn’t matter to me anyway. It’s an awesome phone. I see a few people here say they would have kept their iPhone X longer but felt the pressure to upgrade to the XS because it’s the latest one.
iPhones are the only gadgets where I want the latest. It definitely is inner pressure that wants me to upgrade. A lot of people I know could care less for the latest iPhone as long as their phone still works. Hubs is that way. He’s still using his 7 and reluctantly is upgrading to the XR.
In Respect that member you quoted, they stated they only upgraded because they wanted the iPhone XS Max, otherwise they would not have upgraded this year. So I don’t think it’s necessarily the notion that it was the XS that provoked that member to upgrade just for the sake of a upgrading to the newest iPhone otherwise they would not have upgraded this year. It because the XS was offering a newest form factor with the 6.5 Max, which many (Including myself) wanted the larger form factor.
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Exactly this! If only the max was introduced last year, I wouldn't have upgraded this year.
Ah this reminds me why I stopped doing upgrades every year lol. After going from 5s>6>Galaxy S7>6s+ I stopped with the yearly upgrades. Although I will say as my first iPhone the 5s will always be special to me and I'm so proud to see Apple still supporting it.
If it wasn't for the fact I need more storage and the fact I accidentally dropped my 6s+ when I decided to go caseless for the first time
I wouldn't be upgrading now. Its hard to believe back in 2014 I paid $849 for my 6 Plus 64GB Space Gray model and in 2018 I'm paying $899 for my XR 256GB Blue model.
I understood that part which is why I didn’t mention it as it wasn’t my question. I was just asking the question because they said they don’t intend upgrading unless the form factor changes again next year so to me that suggested their was an emphasis on looks. They answered the question too.
He says he’s perfectly happy with his 7. I prefer a bigger form factor coming from the 7+. When I use his 7, it feels so tiny, like a toy. I guess you would say he’s reluctant because he says he doesn’t need a new phone or really care which phone he has, as long as he’s able to text and call. He’s not a tech enthusiast. Really, I’m upgrading for him because I feel like he’s missing out (faceid, better battery life, bigger screen...)
OLED or no oled. The competition have been offering oled displays at much cheaper prices for years, its only Apple that have decided that they need to charge exorbitant prices for them.
6, 6s, 7, 7s, 8, X, Xs -> With any of them, you're still staring at the same iOS screen, using the same apps, doing the same texting, etc. Each is at best an incremental upgrade, but each blows a $1,000+ hole in your bank account. And for what? To launch an app 1 second faster? To get a pretty new color? Is that worth it?
For me, no. I frankly get more lasting pleasure from knowing that I've been frugal and seeing my own money grow, not Apple's. Or I could take a nice holiday in Europe or somewhere else and have an experience that will be with me for a lifetime. Or I could do both--save and take trips.
Add to that the increasing annoyance I have with Apple's devious ways to try to extract more money from me (battery gate, forced iOS upgrades, for example, while never fixing certain bugs), and my resolve to keep my money out of Apple's greedy mits just hardens. European countries are starting to hit back at some of Apple's outrageous behavior. America needs to follow suit, but with consumer protections in the United States being stripped, not strengthened, I won't hold my breath.
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Yup, I think it's normal at this point. iPhone's last a long time so there is less incentive to upgrade. Each year though, there will be upgraders from years past so it should remain pretty consistent for the foreseeable future. I like to upgrade every year, but I get why people don't.
Next January will be a big upgrade for me. Waiting to see what they come up with next week. Hope to get new laptop, watch, phone and iPad pro. Always wait two months after they come up with something new just to be safe.
The competition makes no profit. There is no competition.
And their so-called flagships aren’t even any cheaper.
I couldn’t care less how much profit these companies make as it makes no difference whatsoever to me as a consumer. What I see is what they offer me in terms of price and Apple charge a huge premium for OLED because it’s new for them whereas the competition have been offering it for years.
You say the competition flagships aren’t any cheaper but that’s false. They may launch at a similar price but unlike iPhones they soon drop and come on much better deals within months of release. Take the Galaxy Note 9 for instance that was nearly a grand when it launched.
That’s a hell of a drop in a couple of months.
This is true, however none of them offer the power of the A12 chip coupled with OLED.
I don't disagree things are overpriced, though.
Apple charges a premium, cause they know they can get it..whether we individually buy an XR or XS/XS Max; they still get our money if we pay to play with them.
The Note 9 keeps winning by a small margin in reviews but it offers worse software support and benchmark performance (the X beats it too). One reviewer had many Note 8's for example, and said they slow down a lot.
What does this mean in real world performance? despite the iPhone XS and Max having 1/2 of the RAM, some games for example will completely reload again on the Note 9. Poor RAM management.
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As much as I’m complaining about those competing phones I wouldn’t buy one and still bought the max. Don’t like the ever increasing prices though particularly when it’s not the price across the board.
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The note starts at £899 here for 128GB and the max starts at £1099 for only 64GB. For the same £1099 you can get the 512GB note which would cost you £1450 at Apple. So the note 9 is significantly cheaper here even before the price drops.I couldn’t care less how much profit these companies make as it makes no difference whatsoever to me as a consumer. What I see is what they offer me in terms of price and Apple charge a huge premium for OLED because it’s new for them whereas the competition have been offering it for years.
You say the competition flagships aren’t any cheaper but that’s false. They may launch at a similar price but unlike iPhones they soon drop and come on much better deals within months of release. Take the Galaxy Note 9 for instance that was nearly a grand when it launched.
That’s a hell of a drop in a couple of months.
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Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with your points but it's like, what do we do?
We have 2 options. Buy the best display or compromise and get the XR, not that the XR is a terrible phone.
Honestly if my 6 Plus had not had bad OS slowdown I’d still be on it. Tbh the OS is pretty much the same on the iPhone SE as it is on the XS. Don’t know why people act like their is a world of difference between phones.
A lot of over zealous fans essentially buy what Apple tells them to buy. Apple says OLEDs are bad and fanboys say the same until the X comes out. Suddenly the LCD screens are Terrible.
But really there’s not any real world difference between the phones. I mean I can post on Facebook regardless of the device.
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A lot of over zealous fans essentially buy what Apple tells them to buy. Apple says OLEDs are bad and fanboys say the same until the X comes out. Suddenly the LCD screens are Terrible.
But really there’s not any real world difference between the phones. I mean I can post on Facebook regardless of the device.
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When no one is buying it, price is bound to go down.I couldn’t care less how much profit these companies make as it makes no difference whatsoever to me as a consumer. What I see is what they offer me in terms of price and Apple charge a huge premium for OLED because it’s new for them whereas the competition have been offering it for years.
You say the competition flagships aren’t any cheaper but that’s false. They may launch at a similar price but unlike iPhones they soon drop and come on much better deals within months of release. Take the Galaxy Note 9 for instance that was nearly a grand when it launched.
That’s a hell of a drop in a couple of months.
Well I suppose they could give away a TV to get you to buy one...
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I have a 6S right now and due to the high costs I may not even upgrade to a new phone. Just too expensive.