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Ordered mine 5 minutes - easy peasy...


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But with the news that there will be no YouTube (yeah right - you really think the YouTube VR experience is going to be optimal in Safari?), and that Netflix can't be bothered to build an app for it, I'm now only about 10% certain that I will go through with the purchase.
This was my big concern with this thing from the beginning. I have an AppleTV and it mostly sits there gathering dust because there just aren't the apps for it - all the games I want to play are iOS/iPadOS only. I imagine if I owned an Apple Vision Pro it would be the same story, only with considerably more money down the toilet. And I think this is the biggest threat to the long-term success of the product.

As for me, I already have my hands full periodically replacing my MacBook Pro, iPhone, iPad Pro (which rumors suggest is going to be 80% more expensive this year), and Apple Watch. I just don't have more breathing room to squeeze in a 4,000+USD device that will need replacing every 6 years to get the latest OS and reliable security patches. Maybe in the future they'll be able to make it a good deal cheaper, but I doubt it. This thing is expensive for a reason, not just because it is new. There's a lot of complicated tech in there. Apple will have to figure out how to shave down cost not just by a little, but by thousands of dollars, all while also continuing to improve and innovate on the device's capabilities with each new iteration. I'm just not seeing this thing being within reach of the average person any time soon, if ever.

Even if I could afford it, I think it's a really, really bad idea in general to get 1.0 tech. Something like this is a long-term investment, not a throwaway impulse buy. It sounds like the first iteration of the Apple Vision Pro is exceptionally immature even for a 1.0 product release, with significant issues with weight and comfort and only 2.5 hours of battery life. I recall the talk a while back of how Tim Cook had to really push the development team to release this thing because they didn't feel the tech was mature enough yet. Is this really the release one wants to be stuck on for the next 6 years, assuming such an early device will even get a normal support life? Why not wait a while for the second or even the third release, by which point you'll also have a better idea of if this thing is even going to get off the ground with app support over time?

It's certainly an interesting product to read about, I'm curious to see what it will do to the tech landscape, if anything, going forward. But for at least the next few iterations, I'm pretty confident in my decision to give it a pass. I hope everyone reading this thread ultimately makes whatever decision they will be happy with long term.
 
Yes. I went to bed convinced I’d order it. Now I’m having second thoughts. I want it but my vision prescriptions are out of date and all the questions about it are making it clear I should update them before ordering. Things may have changed.

And it’s just so expensive. I know I will eventually have this but now I’m leaning towards waiting for reviews, going to the eye doctor, doing an in-store demo, and then deciding if I’m getting this year’s model or what I presume will be Gen 2 next year.
 
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I’m sure the web version works fine and YT VR videos stink anyway.
Yeah, I don’t understand all the complaints about Netflix and YouTube.
Using them in Safari, or as bookmarks on the home screen, should be no different than using them on a Mac.
If you go into fullscreen, you should be able to see the default visionOS player.
 
Yeah, I don’t understand all the complaints about Netflix and YouTube.
Using them in Safari, or as bookmarks on the home screen, should be no different than using them on a Mac.
If you go into fullscreen, you should be able to see the default visionOS player.
Agree - this is where you will need to buy your Apple wireless keyboard and trackpad to enter the URL address.

Very smart of Apple marketing dept??
 
I wasn't considering it at all (I can use the money as down payment on a car ffs) but the fact that it doesn't have WiFi 6E really puts me off and it wreaks if the usual first-generation Apple products that usually get left behind because Apple "learned" from the initial first-gen and then made their improvements based on that but then screwing over early adopters.

I rather wait it out and let them figure it out first and then grab the 2nd or 3rd gen, it will have things ironed out and maybe even cheaper due to more mass production and less issues.
 
I wasn't considering it at all (I can use the money as down payment on a car ffs) but the fact that it doesn't have WiFi 6E really puts me off and it wreaks if the usual first-generation Apple products that usually get left behind because Apple "learned" from the initial first-gen and then made their improvements based on that but then screwing over early adopters.

I rather wait it out and let them figure it out first and then grab the 2nd or 3rd gen, it will have things ironed out and maybe even cheaper due to more mass production and less issues.
But by the time you wait for later gens, WiFi 6E will be old and obsolete.
 
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More than 20 million Oculus/Meta Quests were sold prior to the release of the Quest 3...

(The original Oculus Quest was launched in May 2019, so it's not even been half a decade.)
...what point do you think you're making here? 20 million represents a gaming niche, at a couple hundred dollars per purchase.

We're talking about an iPad, for your face, that costs $3,500. This is so different from a Quest product in every imaginable way that its not even comparable, even just for conversation sake.
 
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The irony is after all that, Apple canceled my order without notice because they say they don't ship to freight forwarders.

Except of course they do, because they did earlier in the week.

Oh well.

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And of course the "we don't ship to freight forwarders" is a complete lie, because they did exactly that with another order I placed earlier in the week precisely for the purposes of checking whether or not they would ship to a freight forwarder.
 
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When I have a link that takes me to safari youtube on my ipad pro, I do everything I can including copy and paste the title to get it on the youtube app...

This was the deal breaker for me, the very first thing I would do on the vision pro is open the youtube app..
 
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Wow, that's a hefty cost to have it re-shipped from US to Thailand plus the customs/duties.

Do you know if the AVP will work outside the US or will you have to wait until Apple releases it internationally ??

Do you have a VPN in the event it does not work in Thailand ?

Would be super expensive to have to ship it back....


This. I could see someone in the U.S. having a last min decision to buy this but going through the hoops and costs to import to Thailand? Thats dedication.

Even being in U.S. I have no desire for it right now as a preorder but it's a very cool product and definitely be looking forward to reviews and future versions.
 
I spent (taking into account inflation) in excess of $15,000 on a 50 inch plasma TV back in 2004, because that's how much a good one cost.

I think a lot of people have completely lost sight of just how cheap technology is these days.
Really, my master series sony tv was $3600, the one before that was $4200 and before that $4800...The oppo 93 when released was $500 and my 9.1 atmos home theater is over $8000 easy....
 
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This is where I think it is going to fail for those who will try order one and get it shipped out of the US because what happens if something goes wrong with the Light Seal and it does not get made properly and thus prevents the VP from sitting on the head properly, how are those people going to get a new Light Seal?
Might want to start with a dark-colored pillowcase over the head. Just cut a hole in it for the Vision screen. $9.99
 
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then you made a mistake back then too
Lol.

Just don't ask how much a full set of Meridian DSP-5500's for the surround sound cost then. Let alone the other Meridian kit. And that was just the living room.

I had full streaming audio and video around the house in 2004. Things were a lot more expensive and a lot harder then.

No mistakes were made.

Although certainly engaging with you here could be considered as one. Time will tell.
 
PDP 504-HDE. IIRC it was around £7k including installation.


Ah those Pioneers were amazing. I still remember the first time I saw a Pioneer, a girl I knew father who was a doctor had one in their living room (around the same year as yours).

Agreed about how cheap tech is today. Everyone talks about inflation but there is massive deflation for a ton of tech and home entertainment. TVs are stupidly cheap today even top ones compared to the past and today you basically can have access to hundreds of movies and shows for a month that would be similar to renting 2 movies back in the 80's/90s(which you had to spend gas and time getting to and returning the movie. That was just for pan and scan VHS....don't get me started on the hoops I had to take as a kid to rent a laserdisc.
 
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