Has anyone talked about the design of the 6 being a tribute to the original iPhone?

[Supermallet]

I do like that the 6 is a return to the styling of the original iPhone (although I do love the look of the 5/5S), but the antenna lines and the protruding camera do a huge disservice to it. Also, I agree that a true black or at least darker grey would have looked better with the curved edges than the space grey. I realize the original iPhone had a silver back, but the front and the back of the space grey phone feel at odds to me. If you look at the white and gold, it feels like the white just melts into the gold backing. It's really great, IMO. It's not enough to make me switch models at this point, but for the 6S I will likely switch colors.

The space grey looks best with a red silicone case, IMO, which gives it a more two-tone hot rod look.

 

[mcdj]

They're all your posts have warranted so far. For example: your comments about Leica using the same equipment to cast parts for modern cameras as they used for older issues. That's not "hommage," man. That's re-issue. Furthermore, I have actually been pretty verbose about this. The fact that you're only focusing on the posts where I got a few licks in on your sorry argument doesn't mean I haven't.

I'll just ignore the flaming parts of this comment. Not really sure why you seem to bent on riling, but hey, internet.

Previously you said homage, tribute, evolutionary, six of one... Now, I'm not trying to be a snarky ass, as seems to be your wont...engage me here.

Where, in your opinion, does the line get drawn between homage/tribute and reissue? I mean, a Leica that uses original blueprints isn't an exact replica of a 1959 camera. They're going to use newer materials for a longer life shutter curtain, the latest lubricants, CNC'd gears, etc.

Can a reissue be an homage? Can an homage be a reissue?

Omega came out with a watch in the late '90s called the 1957 Speedmaster Reissue. It looked kinda like a 1957 Speedmaster, but there were tons of major differences. But no one questioned that it was being called a reissue.

What if Apple did actually stuff new bits into the old style 2G bodies and called it The iPhone Classic? Would it be an homage? A tribute? A. reissue? By Omega's standards, it could easily be called a reissue.

What's the point here? That you and I don't decide what's an homage or tribute or reissue is. The person or people or company who made the original get to call it that. And in some cases, a third party who makes their own version of something can use one of those terms to describe their own creation.

The best anyone else can do is have an opinion. You are welcome to have the opinion that the iPhone 6 a tribute to the first iPhone. But the only people who can state it as fact are Apple.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I'll just ignore the flaming parts of this comment. Not really sure why you seem to bent on riling, but hey, internet.

Previously you said homage, tribute, evolutionary, six of one... Now, I'm not trying to be a snarky ass, as seems to be your wont...engage me here.

Where, in your opinion, does the line get drawn between homage/tribute and reissue? I mean, a Leica that uses original blueprints isn't an exact replica of a 1959 camera. They're going to use newer materials for a longer life shutter curtain, the latest lubricants, CNC'd gears, etc.

Can a reissue be an homage? Can an homage be a reissue?

Omega came out with a watch in the late '90s called the 1957 Speedmaster Reissue. It looked kinda like a 1957 Speedmaster, but there were tons of major differences. But no one questioned that it was being called a reissue.

What if Apple did actually stuff new bits into the old style 2G bodies and called it The iPhone Classic? Would it be an homage? A tribute? A. reissue? By Omega's standards, it could easily be called a reissue.

What's the point here? That you and I don't decide what's an homage or tribute or reissue is. The person or people or company who made the original get to call it that. And in some cases, a third party who makes their own version of something can use one of those terms to describe their own creation.

The best anyone else can do is have an opinion. You are welcome to have the opinion that the iPhone 6 a tribute to the first iPhone. But the only people who can state it as fact are Apple.

Evidently the "point" is that you demand contention over a completely semantic point. Ultimately the 6 shares more design cues with any other rev of the iPhone than the first generation. Clearly this is an intentional design choice. Whether or not Apple explicitly labels it such is completely irrelevant. The evidence is in the details of the phone. The rolled edges. The anodized back. The shape of the volume rockers and so on and so forth. Gone are references to the 4 and 5 series almost completely. That was and is the only point being made here. Diverting into a squabble over whether or not it's a hommage is completely pointless.

 

[mcdj]

Ultimately the 6 shares more design cues with any other rev of the iPhone than the first generation. Clearly this is an intentional design choice. Whether or not Apple explicitly labels it such is completely irrelevant.

Likewise, whether a couple Apple fans label it as such is even less relevant.

My contention is that calling something a tribute implies some kind of celebratory or nostalgic motive. I simply don't think that applies to the iPhone 6.

Of course it's a design choice to round the corners and edges, and anodize the back. But to say those choices are an intentional tribute is like saying having a French accent is intentional. The iPhone 6 has Apple's accent all over it. That doesn't mean they specifically pulled out old CAD files of the iPhone 2G and said, "What can we do with the next iPhone to make a tribute to this great old phone?" That's ridiculous. But it's what the OP hints at, and I'm arguing against the notion.

Apple went back to rounded corners and sides simpy because it was time to change things up, and within the lexicon of Apple design, the choices are relatively few, by design. In 4 years, maybe they'll be back to flat sides. Maybe they'll recycle an iPad 1 tapered back. Maybe they'll go for a MacBook Air wedge profile.

The iPhone 6 owes as much to its design to the Retina iPad Mini/Air or latest Touch as it does to the original iPhone. Maybe even more. Yet no one is saying the iPhone 6 is a tribute to these devices.

It's not celebration, it's evolution.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Likewise, whether a couple Apple fans label it as such is even less relevant.

My contention is that calling something a tribute implies some kind of celebratory or nostalgic motive. I simply don't think that applies to the iPhone 6.

Of course it's a design choice to round the corners and edges, and anodize the back. But to say those choices are an intentional tribute is like saying having a French accent is intentional. The iPhone 6 has Apple's accent all over it. That doesn't mean they specifically pulled out old CAD files of the iPhone 2G and said, "What can we do with the next iPhone to make a tribute to this great old phone?" That's ridiculous. But it's what the OP hints at, and I'm arguing against the notion.

Apple went back to rounded corners and sides simpy because it was time to change things up, and within the lexicon of Apple design, the choices are relatively few, by design. In 4 years, maybe they'll be back to flat sides. Maybe they'll recycle an iPad 1 tapered back. Maybe they'll go for a MacBook Air wedge profile.

The iPhone 6 owes as much to its design to the Retina iPad Mini/Air or latest Touch as it does to the original iPhone. Maybe even more. Yet no one is saying the iPhone 6 is a tribute to these devices.

It's not celebration, it's evolution.

OMG man! Put your dictionary down and RELAX!! If the OP wants to call it a tribute WHO CARES (except you)? I think I'm safe in saying that everyone here got what he was driving at (again, except for you.)

 

[wxman2003]

It was designed as a final tribute to Steve Jobs. Flexible.

 

[mcdj]

OMG man! Put your dictionary down and RELAX!! If the OP wants to call it a tribute WHO CARES (except you)? I think I'm safe in saying that everyone here got what he was driving at (again, except for you.)

Well I legitimately asked if Jony Ive had come out to say it was a tribute, and I was told I was blind, so pardon me for getting a little specific.

 

[Zetaprime]

Ahh, the wonders of life. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.



I'm with you on the ugly bands, and the protruding camera... but I really do like iOS8, the space grey and the curves. I think the new space grey looks more like industrial steel.

Once you put it an a case as most people do, no more bands or protruding camera. Not that either of those things matter in the least to me.

 

[eyoungren]

Once you put it an a case as most people do, no more bands or protruding camera. Not that either of those things matter in the least to me.

Yeah, that's a problem. I don't use cases and both of those things bother me. Also, the color. I don't care for it (any of the colors).

So, no case is really not going to hide any of that stuff so I don't see it.

I'm a minority I confess, but if it were my phone I'd be the only one having to live with it.

 

[Omega1300]

Give me a bit. I can't seem to find it in any recent thread I posted in so that tells me I saw it but didn't post in that thread.

Of course, I can't remember the thread title and with the blizzard of iPhone 6 activity here…well I might have to try Google.

EDIT: Of course, now I can't find it. I'll keep looking.

EDIT2: Sorry man, I just can't find it. No idea what thread I saw it in.

I believe this may have been what you were looking for.

https://www.anostyle.com

 

[eyoungren]

I believe this may have been what you were looking for.

https://www.anostyle.com

Thanks, I am aware of that site, but the one I saw here was recent and actually showed a black iPhone 6/6+. The anostyle site is still showing the iPhone 5.

That's not to say it isn't the same thing, just that what I saw here is different.

 

[hrrslmpk]

1. Space Gray. No black (the black front doesn't count, I'm talking about the metal case).
2. iOS 8. (Give me iOS 6 back please, I'm only on iOS 7 because I replaced my iPhone).
3. Those fugly antenna lines. To each his own, but I do NOT care for that look at all.
4. Non-flush camera. Seriously? The phone is so thin the lens has to bulge out? I've heard rumors that it's to allow for future attachments to the lens, but it's still ugly to me.
5. It's curved. I much prefer the boxy side look of my iPhone 5 and the chamfered edges.

I do however appreciate the size of the 6+. But, honestly that's about it. This is not one phone I wish to spend the next two or more years with.

Now, to be honest, there was one thread where a poster showed a mod that would anodize the phone to a jet black. It's an additional $300 and I do believe it makes the phone look a lot better. Being able to execute on that option as part of getting a 6+ would be a motivator for me to buy a 6+.

Space gray is not black and I much prefer black for my phones.

Do you have the link to this thread?

 

[eyoungren]

Do you have the link to this thread?

No, unfortunately I can't find it!

 

[hrrslmpk]

Has anyone talked about the design of the 6 being a tribute to the original i...

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I'd say the design/being able to tweet from notification bar/the dialpad etc etc

TapToShare by Nonthawat Srichad
https://appsto.re/us/fDp92.i

 

[itsmemuffins]

Pretty cool, I have a lot more appreciation for the design now.

No. No one. Not a single solitary soul has made the link.

 

[haruhiko]

1. Space Gray. No black (the black front doesn't count, I'm talking about the metal case).
2. iOS 8. (Give me iOS 6 back please, I'm only on iOS 7 because I replaced my iPhone).
3. Those fugly antenna lines. To each his own, but I do NOT care for that look at all.
4. Non-flush camera. Seriously? The phone is so thin the lens has to bulge out? I've heard rumors that it's to allow for future attachments to the lens, but it's still ugly to me.
5. It's curved. I much prefer the boxy side look of my iPhone 5 and the chamfered edges.

I do however appreciate the size of the 6+. But, honestly that's about it. This is not one phone I wish to spend the next two or more years with.

Now, to be honest, there was one thread where a poster showed a mod that would anodize the phone to a jet black. It's an additional $300 and I do believe it makes the phone look a lot better. Being able to execute on that option as part of getting a 6+ would be a motivator for me to buy a 6+.

Space gray is not black and I much prefer black for my phones.

1. Apple tried the "blacker" tone in iPhone 5 and.. yes.. "scuffgate"...
2. YMMV, but I think iOS 8.0.2 is quite good.
3. Yes they're ugly. But seems to be essential for NFC and cellular antenna to function.
4. Yes it's very un-Apple.
5. If it still has the boxy design the sharp edge may cut into your hands.

 

[haruhiko]

For me, it's the flexibility I have with a jailbreak and it does not have iOS 7's explosion of color.

I was able to customize my iPhone 5 the way I wanted far more under iOS 6 then I can do now in iOS 7. There are certain features and limitations that iOS 7 introduced that the jailbreak devs can't work around.

iOS 7 also ditched the Notification Center for Control Center. Oh, yes, the NC is still present in iOS 7, but gone is my ability to add widgets to the NC and thusly my ability to add those widgets to my springboard because Dashboard X is iOS 6 only.

You can add widgets to iOS 8 Notification Centre.

 

[appleii.c]

Once you put it an a case as most people do, no more bands or protruding camera. Not that either of those things matter in the least to me.

Yeah, that's a problem. I don't use cases and both of those things bother me. Also, the color. I don't care for it (any of the colors).

So, no case is really not going to hide any of that stuff so I don't see it.

I'm a minority I confess, but if it were my phone I'd be the only one having to live with it.

I've never used the case in any of my phones so I'm with eyoungren on this one. With that being said, the protruding camera lens doesn't bother me all that much, I just feel like it's gonna get damaged easily. The bands, I really disliked them but they are starting to grow on me. Not crazy about them, but I don't seem to notice them as much.

 

[eyoungren]

You can add widgets to iOS 8 Notification Centre.

So I've heard. But there is currently no jailbreak for iOS 8. While I'd appreciate being able to add somethings back when stock I'm afraid there are other things I like that I'd lose because of not having a jailbreak.

So, I'll wait until the jailbreak is out before updating.