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Has the bending thing died down?

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Surf Monkey said:
So, the laws of physics are bending peoples' phones?

My comment stands. I don't believe there's a design flaw. You're welcome to disagree if you want, but the laws of physics really have nothing to do with it.
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a : a defect in physical structure or form
b : an imperfection or weakness and especially one that detracts from the whole or hinders effectiveness

Based on that I agree that flaw is a really a subjective word. Really it can't be proven there is a flaw in the design of the phone or not. Only that it bends "easier" than most other phones with a certain amount of force. Some Apple users seem to even like it as a feature (ie it is easier to fix it and bend it back)
 
and round and round we go...

if there was a design flaw that caused the phone to bend under normal usage, there would be a line from Cupertino to Cleveland of people who are returning their phones.

We are talking about a device that sold in the 10's of millions.

People also tried to make hairgate a thing, but that didn't work, because it was harder to get their hair caught in the phone at the apple store. But it is still easier to go into a store and bend one and post a picture of it on some silly site.
 
jpeg42 said:
Can you provide this please?
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You've seen the CR test many times. You've seen the various other bend videos. iPhone is no more or less prone to bending than any other phone. Furthermore, since you're the one making the claim that it is it's on you to prove it, not me to prove that it isn't.
 
Surf Monkey said:
You've seen the CR test many times. You've seen the various other bend videos. iPhone is no more or less prone to bending than any other phone. Furthermore, since you're the one making the claim that it is it's on you to prove it, not me to prove that it isn't.
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I actually think that the 6+ is a lot more prone to bending than other phones. It's a 6" slab of thin aluminium which hasn't been strengthened around the volume buttons and SIM tray. Having said that, with careful use it won't be a problem and it's kinda good that the bending caution is out there.
 
01silver4 said:
I think the sales of the the 6/6+ killed the bendgate, and just maybe apple may have fix the issue secretly.
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That probably happened after the latest firmware release.

The bending whining seemed to stop around that time.
 
sunking101 said:
I actually think that the 6+ is a lot more prone to bending than other phones. It's a 6" slab of thin aluminium which hasn't been strengthened around the volume buttons and SIM tray. Having said that, with careful use it won't be a problem and it's kinda good that the bending caution is out there.
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I guess you can think whatever you like, but tests show that similar phones bend just as readily, so...
 
Surf Monkey said:
You've seen the CR test many times. You've seen the various other bend videos. iPhone is no more or less prone to bending than any other phone. Furthermore, since you're the one making the claim that it is it's on you to prove it, not me to prove that it isn't.
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Interesting reply there....

But since you asked for proof and provided none yourself. I would say the answer is 23.165lbs of force to deform the iphone 6.. So if you would like to counterpoint this with other facts than just evading the question, I am all eyes.

And here is where the number comes from:
https://imgur.com/a/UNEFs

And if you want some numbers not so straight for Apple's mouth (because ahem industry secrets), they only tested the phone 55 lbs:
Apple was mum on how much the new iPhones can actually take, something it considers a trade secret. It pointed only to 25 kilograms, the amount of weight Apple puts on top of the iPhone's screen to test it for the bends.
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http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/25/6845611/inside-apples-iphone-6-torture-building
 
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Surf Monkey said:
No evidence indicates this is true. The testing we've seen shows that the iPhone is no more or less "bendable" than other competing phones.
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It's like im talking to some political party member that refuses to see the "real picture" :confused:
 
Surf Monkey said:
I guess you can think whatever you like, but tests show that similar phones bend just as readily, so...
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How so? You have told me that CR says the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus both bend (permanently deform ) at 70 lbs. That would put the new iPhones at the bottom of the list. The iPhone 5 takes almost 100% more force to bend.
The 2 iphones bend at 70lbs along with the HTC one, the next 3 phones in the test all take almost 100% more force to bend. How is taking 100% more force to bend = "but tests show that similar phones bend just as readily, so"


Originally Posted by Surf Monkey

"CR postulated 70lbs to permanently deform the Plus at the weak point. Bild confirmed it. I'm not embarrassing myself at all."
 
jpeg42 said:
Interesting reply there....

But since you asked for proof and provided none yourself. I would say the answer is 23.165lbs of force to deform the iphone 6.. So if you would like to counterpoint this with other facts than just evading the question, I am all eyes.

And here is where the number comes from:
https://imgur.com/a/UNEFs

And if you want some numbers not so straight for Apple's mouth (because ahem industry secrets), they only tested the phone 55 lbs:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/25/6845611/inside-apples-iphone-6-torture-building
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I wouldn't call your first source authoritative and your second link doesn't prove anything. Your constant claim that the phone bends at 23 pounds has been corroborated by no one. In my opinion it's a case of FUD spreading.
 
Surf Monkey said:
I wouldn't call your first source authoritative and your second link doesn't prove anything. Your constant claim that the phone bends at 23 pounds has been corroborated by no one. In my opinion it's a case of FUD spreading.
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So people doing deep analysis into it are not authoritative, other tech blogs (ie BILD) finding it at 44 lbs means nothing. Apple themselves saying they only test to 55 lbs doesn't prove anything. And yet you still haven't shown any other source other to tell me otherwise.
 
jpeg42 said:
So people doing deep analysis into it are not authoritative, other tech blogs (ie BILD) finding it at 44 lbs means nothing. Apple themselves saying they only test to 55 lbs doesn't prove anything. And yet you still haven't shown any other source other to tell me otherwise.
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BILD and CR are sources we've all seen. I'm not ignoring them. They both support my position. The iPhone is not more prone to bending than other similar phones. I know you WANT it to be, but it just isn't.
 
I'm planning on continuing to enjoy my very slightly deformed 6+ until 60 days +/- prior to the next new iPhone. After inspecting mine, the genius said they'd replace it any time I want.

If I could count on getting a stronger, less fragile replacement I'd exchange mine now.

But the production line is insanely busy and they probably haven't changed anything, so the risk remains as great as ever. I'll wait and have it replaced in six more months then sell it. That'll net maximum Market value.

The good news is it's highly likely that Apple will carefully and silently fix the problem in the 2015 model, that's what they did when AntennaGate was a problem.

Apples second attempt at designing a durable phone is sure to be successful. After all each and every S model I had was better than the original.

Experience tells me the 2015 iPhone will be the best of them all and the one I'll buy upon release.
 
Surf Monkey said:
BILD and CR are sources we've all seen. I'm not ignoring them. They both support my position. The iPhone is not more prone to bending than other similar phones. I know you WANT it to be, but it just isn't.
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Ok taking those sources I have no idea how you conclude it isn't more prone than other phones as you keep saying. That is why I assume you must be ignoring them.
 
iososx said:
I'm planning on continuing to enjoy my very slightly deformed 6+ until 60 days +/- prior to the next new iPhone. After inspecting mine, the genius said they'd replace it any time I want.

If I could count on getting a stronger, less fragile replacement I'd exchange mine now.

But the production line is insanely busy and they probably haven't changed anything, so the risk remains as great as ever. I'll wait and have it replaced in six more months then sell it. That'll net maximum Market value.

The good news is it's highly likely that Apple will carefully and silently fix the problem in the 2015 model, that's what they did when AntennaGate was a problem.

Apples second attempt at designing a durable phone is sure to be successful. After all each and every S model I had was better than the original.

Experience tells me the 2015 iPhone will be the best of them all and the one I'll buy upon release.
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I highly doubt they would replace it 6 months from now.
 
Surf Monkey said:
I wouldn't call your first source authoritative and your second link doesn't prove anything. Your constant claim that the phone bends at 23 pounds has been corroborated by no one. In my opinion it's a case of FUD spreading.
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You haven't proven anything yourself.
 
jpeg42 said:
Ok taking those sources I have no idea how you conclude it isn't more prone than other phones as you keep saying. That is why I assume you must be ignoring them.
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Looking at the same information you are I can and do come to the exact opposite conclusion that you do. The Galaxy Note 4, the iPhone 6's primary competition, bends with the same amount of force, for example. So, who's ignoring things?
 
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Zaft said:
I highly doubt they would replace it 6 months from now.
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I do a massive amount of business in my local Apple Store, in fact they're the ones that offered that arrangement. Conversely if for some reason things change, that'll be fine too since I can write it off if I need to. It's just a phone.
 
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