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I think one of the main reasons that the 13" RMBP had its price set so high was because they just couldn't get enough of the high res displays to meet demand.

They know how popular the 13" cMBP is at the $1200 pricepoint. Even if they could have sold the 13" RMBP for similar prices, it would have constantly been out of stock because they can't make enough of them to meet that sort of volume.

I think one good piece of evidence for this is how many discounts we've seen for the 13" RMBP. I don't remember seeing such consistent $200+ discounts on new recently-released Macs before. I think we'll see an official price drop for the 2013 models.
This reason will fall away at the next refresh. They have plenty of time to increase production. I think the question this time is if they want to serve both target groups. The ones willing to pay a high price and those not. Or if they want a one size fits all approach as they always used to.
 
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No way 13" cMBP goes - most popular model - why? One of the main reasons - $1200 (people want a Mac but cant afford to pay a lot of $ - the 13" cMBP is just cheap enough to be within reach). Until they can charge less for the rMBP it would not be in their best interest (though Apple doesnt care) to leave the 13" cMBP. IMHO

Pretty sure that it's no coincidence that the 13" Air dropped to $1200 this year.
 
A friend of a friend of a friend who works for Apple in Cupertino California told his friend who is a friend of my friend that they will make do with the cooling vents below to the retina Macbook pro in September when the new refreshed Macbook Pro's and air's are released. He also said it will be very slightly thinner (on par with the 15" model).

True story, you heard it here third.
 
I just made the mistake of reading up on broadwell...this is killing me! haha. If haswell turns out to be mostly marketing BS and not a huge improvement then I will consider waiting on broadwell if they have more concrete roadmap dates by then. I really hope haswell is what intel is claiming it to be.
 
What do you think Intel promises for Haswell?
It will be a big step for Ultrabooks, Air and everything smaller with the new single SoC dual core.
The standard chips with quads will not shake the earth. Nice improvement for the iGPU on some 13" rMBP chip and otherwise small evolutionary improvements.
Only broadwell will bring single SoC across the board and 14nm how ever that will turn out.

Performance wise Haswell doesn't promise too much. Only the GPU really. Power savings should be great for the single SoC but the others get only the new i0x idle state and that should be about it.
 
You can throw the idea of a redesign out the window. Apple likes to redesign their computer line up every 3-4 years. The new designs that we've seen thus far with the rMBP and iMac are basically the birth of the new design that'll carry us for the next 3-4 years.

What is expected is just a spec bump w/ the processors. Processor speeds won't be that big of a major jump from what we've seen but do expect a jump in the integrated graphics. However, despite what Intel had shown off at CES the integrated is still no match for an actual GPU but it is a step in the right direction.

I don't think they will completely redesign it, but they will definitely make some small improvements. For instance, there is no reason why the battery has to be glued in if the macbook airs don't have that issue. Apple has a history of doing this with every rev A model.
 
I don't think they will completely redesign it, but they will definitely make some small improvements. For instance, there is no reason why the battery has to be glued in if the macbook airs don't have that issue. Apple has a history of doing this with every rev A model.

But then we could replace it ourselves.
 
I think it absolutely accurate if they drop the cMBP which in my opinion is a 50/50.

Unlikely unless they get the rmbp to the same prices the cmbp were or release a 15" macbook air.

1. cmbp 13" is their most popular model. It would be silly to take that kind of risk.
2. it would leave a huge price gap in their line. Imagine...you'd have to spend over 2k in order to buy a 15" laptop from apple.
3. a lot of business users require a kensignton lock slot and DVD drive. MBA and rMBP do not have these.
 
But then we could replace it ourselves.

Most people will just pay Apple to replace it anyway, so they might as well make it easy on themselves to do the replacement. Right now Apple has to give you an entire replacement topcase for the price they charge to replace the battery. I would think that they would prefer to not have to do that.
 
Most people will just pay Apple to replace it anyway, so they might as well make it easy on themselves to do the replacement. Right now Apple has to give you an entire replacement topcase for the price they charge to replace the battery. I would think that they would prefer to not have to do that.

Do they charge more for rMBP battery replacement?
 
Lots of people say that they will drop the regular MBP and keep an all retina line up but will they drop the prices that much?!

At the moment:
Lowest 13" cMBP - $1199
Lowest 13" rMBP - $1699

That's $500 less!

I think, if they did that we wouldn't see any increase in SSD sizes because at the moment they charge you $200 to take out the HDD and put in a 128gb SSD in the low end 13".

I think that they will keep the cMBPs this year, and next year will be the earliest they kill off the bigger ones.
 
Lots of people say that they will drop the regular MBP and keep an all retina line up but will they drop the prices that much?!

At the moment:
Lowest 13" cMBP - $1199
Lowest 13" rMBP - $1699

That's $500 less!

I don't think Apple cares if the rMBP's hit price parity with the cMBP's before they kill off the fatties. Apple would rather people buy MacBook Airs than cMBP's. They'll kill off the cMBP's to specifically force people to consider the Airs who otherwise would not have. People like my wife, who knows absolutely nothing about either product but would never even consider a MBA because the MBP has the word "Pro" in it and it's the model she's seen everyone else using. Apple will kill the cMBP's and help force the MBA's into that role, like they've always wanted. They will keep the rMBP's around as true "Pro" machines, and the prices will likely never drop as low as the cMBP's did.

The MacBook Air is the new consumer MacBook, whether you want it to be or not! Apple won't give you a choice.
 
I don't think they will completely redesign it, but they will definitely make some small improvements. For instance, there is no reason why the battery has to be glued in if the macbook airs don't have that issue. Apple has a history of doing this with every rev A model.

Yeah I do agree that they'll do tiny things like but they're not going to redesign the look. They'll make small minor changes that'll be non-noticeable to the public eye.

I mean there's a difference between a redesign and small improvements.
 
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