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for me it's pretty simple; no more MBP, no more apple laptop... I will switch to widnows 7 + linux mint.

But!!! not yet. Refurbished 2013 MBP will be always there. Looking forward to switch back to windows and forget ****ing parallels. Or I will buy a cheap 500$ asus laptop, and a decent hackintosh.

**** apple and **** ipad deluxe!!

So you will buy Apple refurbished but you are going back to Windows? Have fun with your cheap Windows laptop...by the way, you are leaving because of iPad Deluxe which has not been announced yet?
 
So you will buy Apple refurbished but you are going back to Windows? Have fun with your cheap Windows laptop...by the way, you are leaving because of iPad Deluxe which has not been announced yet?

apple refurbished first, when they are gone in a couple yars, yes i will buy a windows computer. a nice and cheap one, like a vaio. I had them before macbook.

All the new air and retina are called ipad deluxe.
 
So you will buy Apple refurbished but you are going back to Windows? Have fun with your cheap Windows laptop...by the way, you are leaving because of iPad Deluxe which has not been announced yet?

You might want to check out the prices of Elitebook`s or Precision`s, they positively make the Retina look like a bargain, and with good reason. Thing with PC`s is you can drop $400 on a cheap Acer or over $5K on a professional level portable Workstation, unfortunately Apple`s narrow focus on the consumer for portable computing is resulting in many needing to re-evaluate their hardware needs...
 
Sure you can add *space* to a Retina but at a high cost. cMBP way better external storage is not the same as internal.
 
Rumor has it the non retina MBP's aren't even going to get an update, while I don't believe it it was on the front page a few days ago.

I wouldn't expect non-retina to get ANY changes apart from processor and gpu though if they update it. Same goes for retina model.
 
Seems like rumors of apple going down are true, and not just in their stock price.

Apple should either reduce the retina price, which anyways is not a good option with no upgradable ram and ssd only, or update cMBP to haswell. This BMW attitude of only high profile customers, interms of price, and then crappy mainstream features in their os is quite weird...
 
Seems like rumors of apple going down are true, and not just in their stock price.

Apple should either reduce the retina price, which anyways is not a good option with no upgradable ram and ssd only, or update cMBP to haswell. This BMW attitude of only high profile customers, interms of price, and then crappy mainstream features in their os is quite weird...
Less than 0.00001% of Apple users care about the company's stock price.

I don't like to say it, but the cMBP's days are numbered. The 13" cMBP has nothing going for it except repairability (it has a lesser screen res than the 11" Air!), while the 15" cMBP has the same heat and thermal throttle issues that plagued its former SnB incarnation. You can bring your own RAM, you can have up to 1.92TB of SSD space (courtesy of Crucial M500) / 3TB of HDD space (courtesy of HGST's 1.5TB 9.5mm drives)... and that's about it.

There is little justification for keeping the so-called Fatbook Pros in production, especially once you start comparing them against the PC-side competitors and Razer Blades. The 17" was first to go, and I personally won't be surprised if Apple axes the non-Retina MBPs before Broadwell goes live.

As for the MBPR:
Yes, it's 99% not user-repairable.
Yes, everything is glued on, soldered, proprietary, whatever negative connotation you can throw at it.
Yes, it's not the best launches Apple has done of late, according to its detractors.

I'm one of those guys who shelled out $4K+ to go from a desktop PC to a very unrepairable MBPR. I'm also one of the guys who covered their very unrepairable MBPRs with things that would've made me a valid assassination target for those overly obsessed with so-called "Macbook purity". And no - I'm not selling mine just because someone at iFixit isn't happy about the MBPR being so unrepairable.
 
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