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Personally I really hate iMac as a product. All-in-one computer is the worst of both worlds. It has to be thin it's incapable to handle the heat of desktop chips and/or graphics so it must do with some laptop parts. But it's not really portable either since it has 24" display or more, and you have to plug it in all the time? I don't know why anyone would pick an iMac over a true desktop, or a laptop.

I've been burned buying an 27" iMac once for various problems it had, I'm glad that Apple decides to keep display and Mac separate despite some of its usual quirks (i.e you need a Mac to use the Studio Display to its fullest potential), but it's a nice change of direction.
This is your opinion. In my world the 27” iMac was the most popular computer Apple sold. For 5-7 years I’ve watched designer after design, ad agency after ad agency switch from the expense over power Mac Pros to 27” iMacs. They did everything users needed. They were priced about right and they were compact. Now what are those users suppose to use? Laptops suck for designers. They get hot, slow, have to have a separate keyboard, mouse and monitor. The Mac mini needs a monitor. In my opinion Apple told the world of designer f you. You’ll have to paid us $5000 now for a computer. Apple always try’s to say they are for the creatives of the world. But over the last 5 years they have done nothing but hurt freelancers, pro designers and design students.
 
For me, its that conundrum of need vs. want. My 2020 iMac (20" 5k Retina. 3.6 Ghz 10-Core intel i9, AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 16 GB, 128 GB DDR4 RAM w/ a 4TB SSD will likely do all I want for a good while. I use Photoshop and Lightroom for my personal photography, no video or musical processing.
But that Mac Studio and Studio Display is singing its siren song. The Ultra Model is probably way overkill, the Max Model would be an upgrade, probably, but........ That display sure is nice............
yes. im on that same route myself. but honestly. just hanging around in this forums means i am sold already to apple marketing haha.
my imac 2019 will hold up quite a bit for sure as well. but the display at least i have to get. i still use the thunderbolt display as second (of 3 screens) just because it looks in sync with my imac and in the end of the day has a decent color balance. but the resolution is driving me crazy.
the 5k lg was never an option somehow. too ugly different image from the imac weirdly.
so i hope the new displays kind of match the apple family.
 
The 27" iMac was perfect for anyone who does professional work but doesn't have a ton of money. As much as I like the new Studio Mac it's not affordable at all. In Canada, the low-end version is $2,500 not including the monitor which is almost as much as the machine. Sorry Apple, I don't have $4,500 and I think there are a lot of people in the same situation. I could buy the 24" iMac but the specs are not good enough either. Maybe they should think about updating the present iMac to have at least a M1 Pro with 32 GB of ram. Until then I'm out.
 
yeah sure Apple. people have an extra 3000k to spend since you wont make a 27imac.. come on man.. it isn't even comparable in price, so how can you expect customers to make the jump to a studio pro.
 
All in ones just make a lot of sense for some folks still - including me. My wish list:
- 32"
- Near bezeless, edge-to-edge display
- No Chin
- Nice adjustable stand

Slap the "Pro" name on it and take my money!
 
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He is right, i also looked for the 27" m1 max/ultra, and the price would be around the M1 max studio+studio display maybe $100 difference
Again its imppossible that the imac with m1 max to be under $1500 since you said half the price
It wouldn’t need a Max, that’s my point - I said low end with big screen.
 
I’m not optimistic about the iMac line up, the 24inch design and obsession with thinness was very odd.

I’m trading in my iMac 2020 for the studio and I would rather have two split major upgrade cycles than dealing with one increments we’ve seen in the past.

iMac is the new SE just like the mini
 
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Perhaps the key to that statement "Immediately after Apple's "Peek performance" event on Tuesday in which it unveiled the Mac Studio and 27-inch Studio Display, Apple quietly discontinued the Intel-powered 27-inch iMac" is 'Intel powered'?

Apple is likely killing the 'Intel-powered iMac', only to bring out an Apple Silicone-powered 27-inch (or larger) iMac 'soon'. It seems odd that Apple would kill it off, and wait until it debuts the new system, but how many would buy the existing inventory of Intel iMacs after the new hotness shows up? It could happen...
 
I suspect it’ll be the rumoured Mac mini with m2 pro & studio display. So hang on in in there if you don’t need to upgrade yet.

I get that you’re passionate about the iMac Pro but likely you are in not a big enough target market for Apple to make a true successor to the iMac Pro for.

And Apple seems to have decided that the studio is simply a better solution.

I think the only problem right now is the lack of a desktop system with a pro processor.

I think this is all similar to the iPhone 12 & 13 mini. Yes there are big fans of those phones but they simply didn’t sell enough to justify continued investment.
I think you might have replied to the wrong person. I’m not passionate about the iMac Pro at all. I’m saying the Studio isn’t a replacement for a lower end iMac with a large screen.
 
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returning the 'midrange' systems to being individual components is a good idea.

while the entire imac line has been hugely popular for the past 20+ years, there's an old argument for this.

displays can often be useful far longer than the computers that are attached to them.
there is no reason that i would want to replace the 27" 5k retina display in my imac pro
when i finally upgrade to apple silicon except that for practical purposes i will have to.

today's 1 size, candy colored imac is fine for those people who are less technical but still need a computer rather than just a pad and returns the imac to its 5 flavor roots in 1999.

for those more technically inclined, you can now but either apple's combined offerings OR (and particularly for those wishing for a 32" imac) you can buy the mac studio and ANY monitor you'd like.
 
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As an owner of an upgraded 2019 iMac 27" Retina 5K, will clearly say there is zero reason the screen should be "bundled" with the computer if it all can be achieved over a single (or even double) cable.

I did not want an iMac, but I wanted an Intel i9 Mac and this was the only way to get it. Cannot use Target Display mode on this machine, so I'm just supposed to toss this gorgeous display when upgrading? if I could still use this display, I'd probably order an AS Studio to begin the transition sooner. Fail on Apple's part.

For the AS Studio setup and those who want an all-in-one, just get a TwelveSouth style BackPack shelf for the back of the monitor and mount your machine if you never want to see it and cannot stomach putting it off to the side. Zero reason this needs to be bundled. Apple can quit talking about their eco-conscious sustainability jargon if they do not figure out a way to reuse these displays after a 2 year upgrade cycle.
 
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Personally I really hate iMac as a product. All-in-one computer is the worst of both worlds. It has to be thin it's incapable to handle the heat of desktop chips and/or graphics so it must do with some laptop parts. But it's not really portable either since it has 24" display or more, and you have to plug it in all the time? I don't know why anyone would pick an iMac over a true desktop, or a laptop.

I think that's a matter of perspetive.

To a computer nerd, yeah, an AIO is less flexible. Can't put high-end components in because it would become too heavy and bulky. Can't individually replace the screen or other parts as they become obsolete.

To a regular person, though, it represents simplicity and cleanliness. All you need is the iMac, a keyboard, and mouse. And the latter two can be wireless, if you prefer. Very clean desk setup that doesn't scream "this is where the ugly tech stuff happens".

Hence the "there's no step 3" commercial.
 
Mac mini M1 ($699) and the studio display ($1599) is probably the soliton for someone who was previously in the market for a 27” iMac. One thunderbolt cable gives you a 27” monitor with webcam and speakers. It is likely the same price as a 27” iMac.
I thought you could get a 27” model for less than $2,300 before but TBH I haven’t looked into it for a while, could well be wrong. To be clear I’m only talking about the options people who would have bought eh 27” models have, not what I personally would like.
 
Larger screen Apple Silicon iMacs will return as soon as Apple runs out of ideas and needs another best-selling product for the masses.
 
Personally I really hate iMac as a product. All-in-one computer is the worst of both worlds. It has to be thin it's incapable to handle the heat of desktop chips and/or graphics so it must do with some laptop parts. But it's not really portable either since it has 24" display or more, and you have to plug it in all the time? I don't know why anyone would pick an iMac over a true desktop, or a laptop.

I've been burned buying an 27" iMac once for various problems it had, I'm glad that Apple decides to keep display and Mac separate despite some of its usual quirks (i.e you need a Mac to use the Studio Display to its fullest potential), but it's a nice change of direction.

How is a true desktop portable? You lugging a Mac Studio and Studio display into a coffee shop? Its so much more powerful than any laptop that Apple had at the time it wasn't even a contest. From a thermal and cooling standpoint its not even close compared to the standard iMacs and I can push it hard and the fans will barely ever even register.

Its just a shame that Apple didn't allow it to be more of a consumer product, which I think the iMac was always targeted towards. I get that it was a stop gap until the new Mac Pro was released but it kind of fell into this tweener category after the Mac Pro was released and there wasn't really a market for it.

That being said, the price point was and is still a little ridiculous, but its an awesome machine.
 
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To each its own I guess. Yeah at some point the 27” iMac used to be the go-to option if you want a performance Mac without splurging for the MacPro. It’s faster than Intel Mac Mini or any Macbooks (of the same generation), with a built-in top of the line display.

But with current Studio Display, and M1 Mac variations, you could get any form factor you want with no compromise at all, I think it’s a win-win for everybody.
Twice the price though
 
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Well, now we see how poor of a seller the 27 inch iMac was. Apple doesn't leave money on the table--if it could have made $$ on an AS 27 inch model, it absolutely would have.
 
IF they ever did release a '30" iMac' it would almost certainly be a replacement for the deceased iMacPRO and not be aimed at consumers any more AND have a +£2,000 price tag to match.
But the new kit costs 3.5k ish as a base
 
24” iMac = M1, M2, etc.

27” iMac Pro = M1 Pro + Max, M2 Pro + Max, etc.

Would be happy with 30” or even 32”, but since studio display is 27” 5K, that’s probably what iMac Pro will be.
Not happening, iMac Pro is dead.
The AIO Gurman and Kuo call iMac Pro is in fact iMac Studio.

Twice the price though
Similar price, higher single core, lower multicore scores.... until the M1/2 Pro mini arrives
Everyone seems to want to compare iMac Pro successor ie;Studio, to their 27"iMac . Real comparison is the mini, just like the core2duo days when mini was headless iMac.
 
I dont like how Apple is associating PRO with everything that has a big screen. What about people that dont need PRO features but simply need a bigger screen?
Yep, for years Apple said no to big mobile phone screens...its not what we do.

Until Samsung did and the market loved it, especially for internet use etc.

Then Apple started to release large screen phones.

Behind the market on that one, they delayed to see what the demand was for them.
 
I'd like to see a larger iMac, just give us the M1 Pro in it, if a user needs/wants the Max or Ultra, then get the Studio. A larger iMac with M1 Pro would be sufficient and would keep the budget in check. I'd love to replace my 27" with this Studio display and computer but those 2 together start at $4K and that's way more than an iMac would cost (unless you add a bunch of options, of course).
 
But the new kit costs 3.5k ish as a base
... but its aimed a pro users, not average consumers.

average users have no need for M1pro, max, and ultra machines. None whatsoever. Average users are NOT who the mac studio is intended for.

Your analogy only works when you think someone will buy the studio display and the mac mini - and that puts it more at £2,400.

So, basically an M1 "iMac 27" costs £2,400... and an M1 iMac 24 costs £1,500.

Id suggest anyone could adapt to a slightly smaller screen.
 
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Well, now we see how poor of a seller the 27 inch iMac was. Apple doesn't leave money on the table--if it could have made $$ on an AS 27 inch model, it absolutely would have.
Maybe they know it was a good seller and popular, but want to make more by separating into 2 and doubling the price, but with a cost to them of maybe an extra 25% or so.
 
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