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http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/hd-dvd-group-cancels-ces-press-conference-in-wake-of-warner-anno/

We just got an email which stated that the HD DVD group is canceling its CES press conference; tail severely between legs over today's explosive news that Warner -- the last "undecided" studio -- was going to the other side and doing Blu-ray discs exclusively. We're not sure if that's because the HD DVD group was in 11th hour negotiations with Warner or what, but the mood at that camp has to be beyond somber right now, so it's pretty hard to thump the tub when you've just been dealt a hard losing hand. Notice posted after the break.

Update: Toshiba, masters of the HD DVD format, also just issued a press release expressing their "particular disappointment" with Warner -- and also implying that the move to go Blu-ray exclusive is actually in breach of contract. The particularly depressing release is also posted after the break.​

Whateva... I prefer HD-DVD, I think it was a more perfected format, new compression technology, and perfect 1.0 profile. Bluray has 3 profiles, discs play on some of them, and uses mpeg2.

However, I like the name and branding of bluray better.

However, I like how you can buy a combo hd-dvd, one side dvd and other side hddvd, honestly I can't see why they aren't promoting the **** out of this. "Buy your movies on HD DVD, watch them in your current player, then when you are ready to upgrade you DONT HAVE TO REBUY THE DAMN DVD"

Stupid people fighting over stupid things, honestly download distribution isn't going to settle this. Bluray will probably win, why?.. because they seem to be the only ones that have a lot of burners on the market, so that indie people like me, can buy them to archive my HD Data which eats up a ton of space.

But this is also going to be a pain in my ass since Bluray players see a burned disc and no encryption and instantly think it is pirated and then won't play it.


Stupid people running these companies!
 
I don't care who wins or loses because neither is getting my money. I find it all a waste of money. Those formats won't last very long anyways because the next generation is already being worked out. I'm more excited about Apple's rumored download service.

Yeah that's how I feel too. I don't really care for HD technology at this stage. And with Blu-Ray players coming out cheaper than PS3's, something else will come along greater and better, blah, blah, blah (insert consumerist/capitalist ideas in here)...I'm tired...like Savoy Brown!
 
Good.
Now lets get some BR support from Apple, an external BR drive, and a new version of Handbrake.
 
This "war" only hurts the consumer who wants to invest in the physical discs.
Personally, i bought a hdtv, hd player, and blu-ray player, and am just using netflix. Because I do not have that much invested in the media (the movies), i can just replace the hardware when there is a standard.

Until then, Netflix will continue to be my main source of Blu-Ray and HD DVD movies for my viewing.
 
Same here...

I use my PS3 for Blu-Ray's all the time so this is a HUGE plus for me

That was the primarly reason I got the PS3. It was at one point the cheapest Blu-Ray player around.

Others may have commented on this, but New Line is owned by Warner. What Warner does, they will do!
 
Stupid people fighting over stupid things, honestly download distribution isn't going to settle this....
Stupid people running these companies!

Yep. It's been mentioned before, but it's becoming pretty clear that this "war" isn't about technical superiority, it's about politics and studio control.

I'm not investing in either right now. I don't even have an HDTV yet, so I'm happy to hold off and see what happens over the next year or two.
 
Poor suckers that invested in HD-DVD.

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This "war" only hurts the consumer who wants to invest in the physical discs.
Personally, i bought a hdtv, hd player, and blu-ray player, and am just using netflix. Because I do not have that much invested in the media (the movies), i can just replace the hardware when there is a standard.

Until then, Netflix will continue to be my main source of Blu-Ray and HD DVD movies for my viewing.
I agree, that is the smartest move, with players selling for pennies on the dollar, it's really library that is the investment. I wish I had thought of that before I bought hundreds of standard def (can you say useless?) dvds.
 
Guys, Guys , Guys,

NONE of this matters... Warner, FOX, Disney? They're not going to decide this issue!

What really matters is what the PORN industry decides.

Not kidding....


Yes, because HD Discs are the only way to get porn. :rolleyes: If only they had something called the Internet.

Not that I would know...
 
I am glad this war is going to be over soon.
I don't care which side wins. I just want a winner so I can finally buy the movies and shows I want.
I tend to like blu-ray just because the larger capacity for back-ups and because Apple picked them. So this is good news.

I hope by the end of 2008 we have a clear winner.
 
i know PS3's bluray supports 1080p. I read somewhere that PS3 downscales 720p to 480p or something like that. I was going to get PS3 until I read that.
Nope. False. But is does not matter now that Wal-mart is selling 40"+ 1080p LCDs for less that 900 dollars.
 
Whateva... I prefer HD-DVD, I think it was a more perfected format, new compression technology, and perfect 1.0 profile. Bluray has 3 profiles, discs play on some of them, and uses mpeg2.

Wrong. Both formats support the same video codecs. You are thinking of the very early Blu-ray discs that used MPEG2. As far as the BD profiles go, yeah, it sucks if you bought a BD player that isn't upgradable. But it sucks even more if you invested in HD-DVD ;)
 
HD DVD Promo Group Cancels CES Press Conference

They hear the fat lady singing...

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/CES_2008/HD_DVD_Promo_Group_Cancels_CES_Press_Conference/1331

It was among the most highly anticipated press events of this year's Consumer Electronics Show, but following today's announcement from Warner Home Video, this Sunday's press conference from the HD DVD Promotions Group has been cancelled.

Organizers sent out a note to members of the media and invited guests late Friday, attributing the cancellation to the timing of Warner's announcement. A rep for the group told us this evening that the press conference will not be rescheduled, but that the group will still have a presence at the show from its booth on the convention floor.

The full text of the HD DVD Promo Group's email follows below:
Based on the timing of the Warner Home Video announcement today, we have decided to postpone our CES 2008 press conference scheduled for Sunday, January 6th at 8:30 p.m. in the Wynn Hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps. We believe the consumer continues to benefit from HD DVD’s commitment to quality and affordability – a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format.

We’ll continue to keep you updated on new developments around HD DVD.
 

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Whateva... I prefer HD-DVD, I think it was a more perfected format, new compression technology, and perfect 1.0 profile. Bluray has 3 profiles, discs play on some of them, and uses mpeg2.


Too bad it sucks in actual storage space. Blu-ray was better from the get go because of 50GB compared to HD-DVD's 30 GB. And BD isn't stuck to just mpeg2.

Yes, the profile thing sucks for early adopters, but anyone who's an early adopter of anything should know things could go sour. Just look at all the HD-DVD owners :D.
 
Wrong. Both formats support the same video codecs. You are thinking of the very early Blu-ray discs that used MPEG2. As far as the BD profiles go, yeah, it sucks if you bought a BD player that isn't upgradable. But it sucks even more if you invested in HD-DVD ;)

The BD-ROM specification mandates certain codec compatibilities for both hardware decoders (players) and the movie-software (content). For video, all players are required to support MPEG-2, H.264/AVC, and SMPTE VC-1. MPEG-2 is the codec used on regular DVDs, which allows backwards compatibility. H.264/AVC was developed by MPEG and VCEG as a modern successor of MPEG-2. VC-1 is another MPEG-4 derivative codec mostly developed by Microsoft. BD-ROM titles with video must store video using one of the three mandatory codecs. Multiple codecs on a single title are allowed.

The choice of codecs affects the producer's licensing/royalty costs, as well as the title's maximum runtime, due to differences in compression efficiency. Discs encoded in MPEG-2 video typically limit content producers to around two hours of high-definition content on a single-layer (25 GB) BD-ROM. The more advanced video codecs (VC-1 and H.264) typically achieve a video runtime twice that of MPEG-2, with comparable quality.

Ah you are correct, I had no idea that it supported things other than mpeg2.
 
Golly, it shore seems like putting all the like colors together would have made that chart a bit easier to read, doncha think?
 
Guys, Guys , Guys,

NONE of this matters... Warner, FOX, Disney? They're not going to decide this issue!

What really matters is what the PORN industry decides.

Not kidding....

It's been known for some time now that the videotape format war was different. It made it possible to watch that stuff in the privacy of home.

This war is different. Industry critics said that "Disney will decide this format war".

Looks like they did.... :eek:
 
Of course.

I just got an HD DVD player for Christmas, so of course HD DVD would lose. It wasn't my choice, I asked for a standard definition DVD recorder/VCR, not any kind of player. But as my old DVD player had conked out, I wasn't about to look a gift horse in the mouth. (I even got 7 free movies out of the deal; although only three of them would I have been willing to pay for at all.)
 
Anyone who suggests that the porn industry will have any effect on this format war is just plain wrong.

Back during the VHS/Beta war, people didn't have the internet so the tapes were the only way they could get porn.

Now, we have the internet, and everyone knows the internet is for porn. Nobody is going to buy porn on HD-DVD or Blu-ray.. they'll just get it online.
 
It's about time

BlueRay is way to go, more data capacity and higher definition for sure. I just love the animated picture depicting people who invested in HD-DVD posted by Prof.
 
I heard awhile back that HD was winning over BluRay because the porn industry sided with HD, similar to what happened with VHS and Beta when the porn industry went with VHS.

Porn is irrelevant in the HD war.

First, you don't need a plastic disc or tape like you did in the 70's when the VHS / BetaMax war happened. Anyone who wants porn can get it for free on the web with a few clicks on Google.

Second, many people in the porn industry don't want to go High Def. It shows much greater detail, including all those flaws, scars and stretch marks.

Bottom line, don't count on Porn to decide the HD war. The studios will decide it, and it looks like they just did...
 
Of course.

I just got an HD DVD player for Christmas, so of course HD DVD would lose. It wasn't my choice, I asked for a standard definition DVD recorder/VCR, not any kind of player. But as my old DVD player had conked out, I wasn't about to look a gift horse in the mouth. (I even got 7 free movies out of the deal; although only three of them would I have been willing to pay for at all.)


Just return it. Store credit is better than nothing.
 
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