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except these discs won't play in current units.

This is the same problem Blu-Ray folks will have to contend with when profile 1.1 discs start to surface and the majority of the players will not be able to take advantage of the 1.1 profile.

You cannot update firmware if the hardware lacks the capability in the first place.
 
We all know it's not because of the technology.

It's because of the name! Blu-Rayyyyy!

It takes 1/2 a second to say Blu-ray. But it takes a full second to say HD-DVD.

So what has quicker word of mouth? Blu-Rayyyy. What has faster marketing, arbitrarily shorter commercials, and is therefore cheaper to advertise? Blu-Rayyyy!

So you get Blu-Ray to do all the work for you. Now who's bringing home the money? Blu-Ray.

When HD is the standard, what are they going to call the next HD-DVD? HDHD-DVD? Then you'll need 2 seconds to say it. MegaHD? SuperHD? Megatralafisticantiopathicmothragodzillastartreksoup-HD?

No. We need something better. A word that doesn't take time or air to say. A word with superior marketing ability AND the studios to use it. My friends... it is my greatest pleasure to introduce to you... Blu-Ray.

That's what the guy said at the first meeting. How do I know? Because I was there, secretly.

But seriously! It's because of the name. And the better logo. And the colour blue.
 
Guys, Guys , Guys,

NONE of this matters... Warner, FOX, Disney? They're not going to decide this issue!

What really matters is what the PORN industry decides.

Not kidding....


Actually the porn companies right now are more likely to go with digital content delivery - over the Internet. Way better for the instant private purchase. (I work in a very closesly related feild)
 
When HD is the standard, what are they going to call the next HD-DVD? HDHD-DVD? Then you'll need 2 seconds to say it. MegaHD? SuperHD? Megatralafisticantiopathicmothragodzillastartreksoup-HD?

I know. The name Blu-Ray is so easy to say, it's gonna win.
 
Until then, I'm sure I can keep myself from looking at Sylvester Stallone's blackheads and wrinkles in High Def.
That is definitely one big negative about HD movies. Sometimes you see too much detail.

There is no triple layer spec for blu-ray as of yet.

I want to make sure people have accurate facts when debating the war. The point for the HD DVD triple layer disk is to bring to light that you cannot argue one has more storage than the other.
Does storage space really matter?

My guess is movie quality and availability will be more important in which format wins.

But watch, about 10-15 years from now HD-DVD or BR will be a thing of the past as we move onto a new high definition standard.

For right now, my regular DVDs are good enough for me.

I don't care who wins or loses because neither is getting my money. I find it all a waste of money. Those formats won't last very long anyways because the next generation is already being worked out.
Yep, that's how it always is it seems.

I think it will be 2009 before HD surrender. I do wonder who else might announce at CES, cheaper players etc now it looks like its sorted.
CES will definitely be interesting.

I agree that it will be a while before the format war is over. Too many variables right now.

Yes, because HD Discs are the only way to get porn. :rolleyes: If only they had something called the Internet.

Not that I would know...
Please do some testing and get back with us with all the details! ;)

They hear the fat lady singing...
She maybe warming up, but I don't think she is singing yet.

I know. The name Blu-Ray is so easy to say, it's gonna win.
Good point. Marketing. Marketing. Marketing.
 
Well, now that the word is out, what is Paramount going to do with their TV show releases like Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica?

Who's going to invest in TV show seasons on HD DVD with the recent developments?
 
Today I was told using the PS3 for watching movies on it will wear it out soon.:confused:

Not like it matters, thats the only thing the PS3 is good for anyways; if you wanted to play video games, you would have bought a 360.
 
Digital downloads and streaming media are going into hyperdrive with Microsoft, Apple, Netflix, Amazon, TiVo, and others prepping in their corners. XBox 360 DVR, Apple TV with dual cable cards, TiVo series 4, Unbox Unlimited... Blu-what? HD DV-who?

Streaming media and downloaded video may be the future, but it has a way to go. Broadband penetration still isn't great in the USA.

Also, not even Apple is offering downloaded video at the quality that can be had on a blu-ray/DVD/HDDVD disk. I (nor most of the people I know) are crazy nuts about the quality of audio, but when it comes to video/home theatres etc. there are a lot of us out there who are anal about video/sound quality.

I would imagine that the Blu-Ray lifespan (assuming it wins) will be close to that of DVDs.
 
Well, now that the word is out, what is Paramount going to do with their TV show releases like Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica?

Who's going to invest in TV show seasons on HD DVD with the recent developments?
A true fan would know that Universal has Battlestar. ;)

I'm not buying another Star Trek box set until this is sorted out. I'm looking at you wall of DVD's. Not that I need all those episodes or to even watch them again.
 
How many of us here really care about HD?

Personally, I think it's completely overrated. Sure, a crisper image. But to me, seeing a little more detail when The Thing rips out of the guy's stomach and attaches awkwardly to the ceiling, or when the dog rips up into a dog-blob and starts eating the other dogs doesn't really sell it for me.

:)

But the name Blu-Ray is just so much better :D!!

Do they make widescreen SD-TVs? I want to support regular DVD! lol
 
I agree with those that said that the porn industry has no bearing anymore over which format is going to win out due to the fact that you can get as much porn as you want for free on the net.

Why would I subject myself to going into a dirty old porn shop and risk someone I know bumping into me as I'm walking out the door? Plus, do we REALLY need porn in HD? I mean come on, not literally, when the porn industry picked VHS over Beta there was no precursor as to how to view pornos on your TV in your home. With DVDs, internet, iPods and such today, an HD format doesn't amount to a hill 'o beans.

And back on the REAL topic: BD just always made more sense than HD-DVD from the beginning. Why would you pigeon hole yourself into a format that had LESS capacity than your competition????? BDs and DL-BDs can hold so much more info than the HD-DVD's that it makes it a clear cut winner in my book.
 
Poor suckers that invested in HD-DVD.

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Hey, I resemble that remark!
Anyway, I bought HD-DVD the previous summer. I've watched all the hype and format war and misinformation since. HD-DVD offers lots of features, easier production (people talk about triple layer BR but they do not talk about its production problems) and really the coolest thing is that I've been able to upgrade my Toshiba player's OS via the internet.

In addition, there are features available also via downloads. That's been really cool and promising for the format. The SD DVDs also looked great on my player. Just beat the performance of my Panny S97.

Now we will get BR with its limitations and lack of incentive. But in the end, it too will be trumped by internet HD solutions. But that's still a little way off I imagine due to the bandwidth needed for HD.

HD-DVD sure has looked great on a 106" screen via the JVC RS-1.

Oh well.
 
not true

Both use the same compression technologies. No difference there.

Lots of the BR titles were mpegs and had lots of bad titles with artifacts.
HD-DVD was using VC1 and producing consistently great results.
BR I think has moved now to the microsoft format of the VC1 for better consistency in the production.
 
Seriously? This argument again? What format the porn industry chooses (and there is porn on BOTH formats) decides nothing when you have INFINITE amounts of streaming pornography available on the net. So let's lay this one to rest shall we?

And in truth who wants to see porn in HD? Porn is all about fantasy and most porn actors and actresses take lots of make up to keep that fantasy potential 'up' in mere 480 lines per screen. The porn purveyor neither needs or necessarily wants HD view of their imperfections.

Its just not that important which way the porn industry goes in this particular war.
 
I always knew Blu-Ray would win. I'm thrilled to see this happen.

I've got a computer setup that will satisfy my needs for at least another couple years, but I look forward to purchasing a Blu-Ray equipped mac the next time I upgrade.

For now, the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray on a 23" ACD is only evident when you put picture and picture side by side. Once you're in a film, it doesn't matter.
 
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