HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray [misc discussion]

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  1. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    So since this feverish argument continues to rage a silent battle everywhere except out of the mouth of fanboy's it's interesting to see some new news regarding 'exclusivity'.

     
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    Wall of text :eek:

    I haven't read all of it, but don't we already know about Paramount and Dreamworks?

    I just want HD-DVD to win because it isn't region locked :)
     
  3. Mac-Addict macrumors 65816

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    HD-DVD All the way Im all for region unlocked.
     
  4. MRU thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Shall I make it pop up and add some pretty pictures ;) :p :D
     
  5. sikkinixx macrumors 68020

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    although I would greatly prefer blu-ray to win since I already have a half dozen of them and a PS3, in the end, really, I just want the ****ing crap to be sorted out. All this 'war' does it screw the consumer because you need two players to watch all the movies you want in HD.


    that wall of text has just a slight bias towards HD-DVD so i'm willing to be you find a pro- BR article that counters most points made.
     
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    Fixed.
     
  7. wwooden macrumors 68000

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    I'm like you, except just the opposite, I have an HD-DVD player. Before this announcement, it was looking like Blu-Ray was going to win and I was ok with it. I also just want a format to win so I can go to the store and pick any HD movie and watch it and not get into arguments about which movie is on which format. If HD-DVD does eventually die, I was planning on getting a PS3 in the next year or so and then I would be able to play all HD movies.
     
  8. Jovian9 macrumors 68000

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    Very interesting. Though I will probably wait until 2008 to make a choice b/t a dedicated high-def player form my upstairs TV.
     
  9. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    Welcome to last week :)

    Anyway, Blu-ray is still winning but this is a very interesting twist. I have to scoff at the "Blu-ray has won" camp; every time I hear it, I shake my head because people are calling a winner WAY too early in the game.

    At this point I've become pretty much indifferent. If Blu-ray wins, I will definitely buy a PS3 in lieu of a Blu-ray player at some point.

    I no longer care who wins, I just want it over.
     
  10. Cooknn macrumors 68020

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    Have you been living in a cave?! This is old news...
     
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    HD has not hit mainstream yet.

    So the verdict on the outcome of BR or HD-DVD is yet to be determined. This really reminds me of Beta and VHS.

    If I had to guess, I would say that BR will start out winning just like Beta, then is will flip quickly to HD-DVD just like it did to VHS.
     
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    I wish that someone would champion a DVD based, HD-Lite format for the "masses". DVDs are dirt cheap to manufacture as are the drives, and a DL DVD could hold a 720p h264 movie no problem. Now, I know it's not Sony "True HD" 1080p, but lets face it. Right now the majority of HDTVs out there and being sold are 720p sets. I have a 1080i HDTV and I'm still saying they should just stick with 720p (for movies). They'll look great scaled to 1080i.

    The players wouldn't need to be as powerful, they wouldn't need expensive blue laser readers, the discs would e CHEAP. Start selling all DVDs as dual disc sets. A regular disc with the DVD movie and extras and an HD version of the movie with no features, menus, etc. Format the disc in some standard manner (the HDDVD-9 format or whatever it's called) so that they'll work in all players.

    In a few years, as people transition to HDTVs and get new HD ready DVD players (and already have some movies to watch on it since they got them "free" with regular DVD purchase) they can start selling dual disc sets that are both HD, one with movies one with features. After that they could start selling blue laser based players in discs, which would still read the "old" HD stuff and people would be ready for it, and it would be affordable.

    The whole HD movie market was mishandled by a few mega-corporations with no vision.
     
  14. ChrisK018 macrumors regular

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    Maybe this format war will drag on long enough that downloadable HD content becomes possible. I think that is where this will all be going eventually. As much as I like holding CD's in my hand, a band can get by with 100% downloadable content. I think films are not too far behind.

    Lately I've been seeing HD DVD commercials-- even in movie theaters, and the studio news does not help Blu Ray much. I own neither, and am just waiting. I remember when my parents returned their betamax player... screw that.
     
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    Didnt sony just say that they will be supporting Porn in Japan on Blue Ray? Thats a pretty big step, which ever format the porn industry picks will be the one that wins :D Doesn't porn outsell anything else on dvd currently?
     
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  17. FleurDuMal macrumors 68000

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    Yup. Digital distribution all the way, please.
     
  18. Antares macrumors 68000

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    With downloadable content, could you still get all of the same bonus freatures and extras? You know, like: commentary, simultaneous script to scene comparisons, multiple languages and subtitles, alternate angles, "live" special effects overlays/removals, etc.? Not to mention all of the extra features like bonus scenes, "making of" shorts and other similar things. We'll end up paying close to the same amount for a movie and getting much less in return. Also, there will most definitely be tons of copyright restrictions which will limit what you can do with the files. It's easier to rip a disk than it is to convert an already copyrighted file.

    Think about music downloads...we're paying close to what we pay for cd's but are also loosing a lot of things in the process: Sound quality, booklets, extra video's that are sometimes included on the cd. This is extremely small compared to what you would loose with bonus features for movies. And movie bonus features are actually something worth having.

    Back on topic....I'll be bummed if Paramount removes support for Blu-ray. I'll be getting a PS3 so I'll obviously have a way to play Blu-ray movies. However, Universal and Paramount make movies that I want/enjoy. I'll have to also buy an HD-DVD player if I want to watch those film...which sucks.
     
  19. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

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    As it is, it looks like Toshiba/Microsoft have 18 months to prove their point; then all these contracts (Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks) expire and they'll probably go multiformat back to Blu-ray.

    18 months can be a lot of time though.
     
  20. JackAxe macrumors 68000

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    Wasn't this news from about "2" weeks ago? ;)

    <]=)
     
  21. MRU thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Some of us were in Italy... shoot me :p
     
  22. 2nyRiggz macrumors 603

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    Where exactly do you want this bullet....and from what range:D

    This is a hit to blu-ray but I couldn't give a damn....I just want HD movies

    The cashcow took a s*** on paramount.



    Bless
     
  23. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Format wars suck, didnt these morons learn anything from the VHS & VHC wars? I guess not here we go again.
     
  24. pcypert macrumors 6502

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    It's an interesting move. To think that it was made for any other reason than someone getting lots of money is pretty foolish though. Maybe Microsoft didn't "directly" pay, but someone got paid for that deal.

    Porn does lead the way with format since the days of Beta vs VHS...and they're going HD downloads...so expect that to be the way of the future :) We'll be there soon I think and none of this format war stuff will win.

    I'm thinking Apple TV like devices everywhere with the ability to rent a month's worth of a viewing from a vast library...we'll see though.

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  25. pcypert macrumors 6502

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    Oh yeah,
    and here in Thailand they already have digital download services for movies : Torrents! :D

    Paul
     

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