Your still taking it before it's officially available. Someone uploaded a pirated copy to a torrent. The OP downloaded this copy knowing that this is not the way Apple intends for anyone to get a copy of Lion. I'll concede your point about whether or not it's been paid for but that doesn't change the fact that paying for something doesn't make taking possession of it through illicit means wrong.
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Help... Lion download now no hardware?!!!
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Your still taking it before it's officially available. Someone uploaded a pirated copy to a torrent. The OP downloaded this copy knowing that this is not the way Apple intends for anyone to get a copy of Lion. I'll concede your point about whether or not it's been paid for but that doesn't change the fact that paying for something doesn't make taking possession of it through illicit means wrong.
Having worked 'a little' in the industry there are many occasions when pre-release versions of software are evaluated. This helps the acceptance and migration process as it gives users more time to interact and potentially discover issues that would be major for them (not necessarily for the majority though). Testing out new software is carried out by demo versions, beta's, trialware and where these are not available; yes by other means. If that means getting hold of a pre-release version to 'play' with then so be it.
when Vista was due I saw many people (Pro's and public alike) who got hold of the RTM before its release and proceeded to try it out. It was for this reason that I purchased it early on as I had good experiences with it and my day-to-day needs beforehand.
I am not suggesting people replace their system with an unproven and yet-to-market product as this is indeed foolhardy to say the least; however running them side by side for a time is a great way to be sure that all the bits you need are there and work they way you need them to.
your comment confuses me as I can see you mean to say that its foolish to install un-proven products and at the same time missing the point entirely of the reason to do so in a controlled manner for evaluation and testing purposes.
is it better to;
A, wait for the release day, purchase and let the installer do its stuff, reboot and look on in awe only to find 20 minutes later that your vital accounts package bombs out?
B, have a look beforehand (at time convenient to you) and check your apps before committing to the release version?
Sure. I only touched on the morality of it in a financial sense.
I guess you could argue that the GM is effectively being sold to 'Developers', so anyone who downloads it now should be paying the developer fee. Again, my intention was only to correct an analogy *relevant gif*.
Do you really think the OP did this? She admitted to installing DP2 instead of the GM because that is all she could find on the net. Come on. You said in another post that she is "practicing good systems admin skills". Do you honestly think by installing a DP2 instead of the GM, she is practicing good system admin skills? I would hate to see a system she would administer if you think she is practicing anything good.
With this theory I already have a 'FREE' ticket!
(Only just bought the iMac so Lion is free for me anyway!)
Good. We can agree on that. The OP doesn't need any encouragement in that direction.
Just to let you all know my GM version of Lion is working perfectly.
I love it already and as soon as it's released in the MAS I'll download it for 'FREE' (as I've just bought a iMac).
I'll do that much shouting about Lion to my friends and family they'll go and buy it when it's available (so I'm actually providing Apple with income!!)
I love it already and as soon as it's released in the MAS I'll download it for 'FREE' (as I've just bought a iMac).
I'll do that much shouting about Lion to my friends and family they'll go and buy it when it's available (so I'm actually providing Apple with income!!)
Someone please help....
just bought brand new 27" iMac from Apple shop in Trafford Centre and the staff said Lion wouldn't be ready till end of month.
So I just couldn't wait for Lion to be officially released so went ahead and set up my new mac and stupidly illegally installed Lion preview 2!
Now I have no wifi at all on my iMac and says NO HARDWARE INSTALLED??
Someone please help as I feel if I go back to store with it they'll just laugh!
So, at what point during this thread, in the last 3 hrs, did this change, i.e. became "she'll be apples, piracy is just dandy"?
Jusss wondering..
It's not really piracy as I'll be downloading the 'real' one when it's available!
Chill out and put that finger away, there's ladies around now!
Chill out and put that finger away, there's ladies around now!
It's illegal — like you said. There's a reason developers and other pre-release testers are still under NDA.
Chill out and put that finger away, there's ladies around now!
You're right. Women really should be treated differently than men.
It's not really piracy as I'll be downloading the 'real' one when it's available!
Chill out and put that finger away, there's ladies around now!
It's still piracy however you want to justify it. You are downloading a version that you are not entitled to, the version you will be legally entitled to doesn't exist yet. Sure it may not be hurting apple as much as someone who is just pirating it and doesn't intend to get the official version, but it's still illegal.
Agree with this too. No matter how you look at it at the end of the day it is still illegal and still classified as piracy. Downloading a pirate version from a torrent site means no official support from Apple so one has to turn to forums to get one out of a sticky situation. When a legal and official version is acquired either for free or at a cost depending on what one is entitled to means support from the developer in this case Apple.
Not to mention it's an insult to forum members to ask for help on something that could be avoided in the first place and then when it's sorted out act as if nothing had happened and go ahead with the original plan and installing the software anyway even though it's a pirate version acquired illegally.
Alright, all joking aside, you really only should have Lion via one of two ways:
You have a developer account, or
You purchased it on Release Day
Anything else and it's theft, unfortunately.
While there are kind forum members here to help you, please understand that most folks on here really can't and won't condone the act of acquiring this software outside the proper channels.
In any case, I hope you enjoy Lion when it's released. You'll find things have changed from the 90s, but not altogether for the worse.
You have a developer account, or
You purchased it on Release Day
Anything else and it's theft, unfortunately.
While there are kind forum members here to help you, please understand that most folks on here really can't and won't condone the act of acquiring this software outside the proper channels.
In any case, I hope you enjoy Lion when it's released. You'll find things have changed from the 90s, but not altogether for the worse.
I cant believe you would spend that much on an iMac and then use a pirated operating system on it. You couldn't wait 2 weeks or so?
It's not really piracy as I'll be downloading the 'real' one when it's available!
Chill out and put that finger away, there's ladies around now!
You obtained OSX outside the terms of what apple has set, you did not purchase/pay for the operating system and future promises do not allay the fact of stealing.
btw, many people use the excuse that they're just trying out the application and will buy it later - to which they never do.
Since this thread has headed downed the piracy bunny trail its time to close it since MacRumors does not condone piracy
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