Good for you, man. I'm no angel and am probably going to hell 😛
But you did your karma a good thing today, sir.
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Good for you, man. I'm no angel and am probably going to hell 😛
But you did your karma a good thing today, sir.
Eso
macrumors 68020
Wrong: they ALL apply.
If you receive merchandise that you didnt order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.
You have no legal obligation to notify the seller. However, it is a good idea to write a letter to the company stating that you didnt order the item and, therefore, you have a legal right to keep it for free.
The question is what should you do, not what you are legally required to do. The first two statements still apply: 1) you have a legal right to keep the item and 2) you have no legal obligation to even write them a letter. In fact, the second answer also recommends to write a letter - telling them you are exercising your right to keep it.
OP: you got gypped, son! Exchanged an iPhone for a bluetooth headset you might not even use, or a model you might not have even bought.
uberamd
macrumors 68030
Has this ever happened to you? Don't comment unless it has. This HAS happened to me and I DID get a invoice and return label. Either return it free of charge, or pay.
And he didn't get gypped... he did the right thing. The reason the world is so screwed up right now has a lot to do with people who share the mindset you do. Morals are going out the window, its disgusting.
Eso
macrumors 68020
Have I ever gotten arrested? No. I still have my Miranda rights.
From the same page: "...You receive a pocket knife that you never ordered. Despite your objections, the company continues to send you notices demanding payment and threatening your credit rating."
They can certainly make you think you owe them money, but you have rights. You didn't know that and they walked all over you. You should be happy that you know otherwise now. I certainly am; thanks g41d89a. Maybe you think it's "shady" to keep the item, but that is your right. Like the right to free speech, or the right to an attorney if you get arrested (or is that "shady" too?).
The world is screwed up because there are citizens of the United States want their rights to be protected and honored? IMO it's screwed up to think that standing up for your rights is "disgusting" or morally wrong.
uberamd
macrumors 68030
HE ORDERED THE PHONE! It was an HONEST shipping mistake that they sent two. This is NOT like some random thing showed up at his house! Have you NEVER gotten bogus CD's in the mail then a bill later? There is a HUGE difference between those two. This is like trying to reason with a brick wall.
He isn't standing up for his damn rights, the RIGHT thing to do is send it back because he knows it was an accident. They were not trying to get him to subscribe to some monthly CD club... this was an honest mistake to the tune of $700. Get that through your skull would you. It is morally wrong to keep the item.
Why should he get rewarded for sending back a device he accidentally got? It was a mistake and he did the right thing.
Eso
macrumors 68020
What don't you understand about:
Federal Trade Commission said:
He ordered one phone. He did not order two phones. The second phone would be what... that's right, an unordered item. Hence, if you receive an item "that you didn't order", you have a "legal right to keep it as a free gift".
Whatever company sent you an unordered item and then demanded payment for it violated federal law. Not only is it legal to keep the item, it is illegal for a company demand payment for such. Yet you are arguing that it is morally wrong to do anything but pay them or send it back? Welcome to America, buddy, the land of the free.
its just like if you find a lost animal, you get a reward (most of the time) for being a good person... 😉
The shipping mistake is causing an inconvenience for the customer who ordered the product. The customer does not have to return the product. He is not required to work to rectify apple's problem thus leaving him in a position where he has to supply extra effort that should not be required while ordering from an esteemed retailer/manufacturer like Apple. Convenience is a very important thing. There is no moral wrong in keeping it and who can really define what someone's time is worth. A skilled craftsman or other position could be using the time that Apple so rudely stole from him to make even more money than the product is worth. And as the FTC says, you are under no legal obligation to pay for it and Apple cannot force you to rectify their own mistake.
Good move pal, I will feel sorry for the other party who is waiting for his or her iPhone 3GS x 2 if the Fedex delivery guy just send him or her only one of it.
stabile007
macrumors regular
Well done, OP. I would have returned it too, it just doesn't belong to me. I'm glad there are laws protecting consumers, but I don't think they were intended for a situation like this.
Yup - thanks for replying more timely than I could... I was too busy being pwned by everyone here.
Of course you should for "good karma" and what's morally right make every effort to return the phone.
But legally you're OK to keep it.
That's not saying that Apple & AT&T can just charge your card and make your life hell trying to force them to take the charge off (but they'd never do that, as they themselves are completely full of uber-karma and follow the letter of the law totally).
Nah, people like to just call people thief's and immoral people rofl, when it all actuality the law was on the OP side if he wanted to keep said phone. A lot of ignorant people on their high horse in here. Expect nothing less from some stuck up mac owners though. I would have kept it and slept soundly knowing I DIDN'T BREAK ANY LAWS.
Well you put my faith in some humanity at least. Thank you, it's nice to see honest people out there.
Jesus Christ get off your ****ing high horse. He wouldn't be any less honest if he decided to keep the phone. He was under any legal obligation to return it.
LordOBoogie
macrumors 6502a
Good for you for returning it, OP. The guilt would have killed me. I can't stand being dishonest.
You did the right thing...because if you didn't they would of ask for it back...they would had charge your account since you order it online...AT&T has a return policy you should check it out sometime....it's good to read the company policy so you know what to expect...Believe me nothing in this world is free...
Except when there's a shipping error and there is FEDERAL LAW that stipulates you have NO obligation to correct their error; they cannot LEGALLY charge him for the extra phone, and under FEDERAL LAW this is classified as a FREE GIFT.
Yeah, I'm OK with that
Integrity is a good word too. Whether it's technically legal has absolutely nothing to with choosing to do the right thing.