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Here Are All the macOS Ventura Features Your Intel Mac Won't Support
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Luck you ... my 2012 mini had a dying hard drive (SMART status was 'failing' IIRC) in 2020, so I bought one of the last Intel Minis. It's pretty much the same as the 2018s except it has double the disk space. It's the one that produces the most BTUs of all Minis as well, it turns out. Not great in the sweltering summer heat. Since user memory was upgradable then (in reality, Apple claims otherwise) at least I got a much cheaper upgrade from 8 => 64 GB by hundreds of dollars. At least I'm now getting used to Monterey.
No emoji support in dictation mode ?
How on Earth will I cope
Tbh not terribly compelling reasons are they ?
How on Earth will I cope
Tbh not terribly compelling reasons are they ?
“This i9” made it seem like you were posting from the Mac in question. But if not then fair enough.
Also if you have a niche use case, you might want to indicate that in your comment otherwise open for interpretation as encouraging continued use of an insecure and unsupported MacOS on daily use hardware. You and I aren’t the only ones browsing MacRumors, and I’ve seen users here who will see a comment like yours as an excuse never to update on hardware that doesn’t have the luxury of being on an isolated network.
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As you know, I wasn't the one that made the recommendation. And I certainly understand that there are good reasons to stay with older, unsupported OS's. I myself stayed with High Sierra long after its EOL because it's the last OS with native subpixel text rendering, and I'm very sensitive to text sharpness. [Without subpixel rendering, I need my main monitor (for me, a 27") to be a Retina (~220 ppi) for text to look sharp enough not to give me a headache, and I didn't have an 5k 27" until recently.]
Having said that, when you wrote you were keeping "this i9" on Mojave, you weren't referring to a computer on an offline intranet since, logically, if it was on an offline intranet, you wouldn't have been able to post to MR from it. So something is not adding up here.
Windows on ARM with parallel‘s works really well for me, and I’m running Windows 11 on my M1 faster than I am able to run Windows 10 on my i7 Mini in VMWare Fusion. And there is nothing in the EULA that prevents you running Windows ARM in a VM, it’s just not officially supported.
The emoji thing feels totally arbitrary and capricious, I can’t imagine why that would need a better CPU or ML
Maybe there’s a legit reason, I know nothing about ML
Maybe there’s a legit reason, I know nothing about ML
Not missing out on much. But going forward all the new features will be available to Apple Silicon models only.
Increase the cost of what was your least expensive MacBook, and then shorten the life expectancy of OS updates. Nice. Kinda makes you want to rethink the whole cost-effectiveness of the whole purchase.
Now granted, I expected my 2017 Air to hit the wall in the next year or so (even though they continued to sell it a couple of years after, because of the ports), but one has to wonder which features of Ventura really require M1 or M2 over Intel, and how much of that is simply the push to get users to fork out for a new Mac.
Now granted, I expected my 2017 Air to hit the wall in the next year or so (even though they continued to sell it a couple of years after, because of the ports), but one has to wonder which features of Ventura really require M1 or M2 over Intel, and how much of that is simply the push to get users to fork out for a new Mac.
As I mentioned earlier in a previous post, it’s absolutely ridiculous that a 5 year old MBA cannot run the latest operating system. Apple’s whole “environmentalism” posture goes right out the window.
I’ve been using Apple products faithfully since 1978….it goes with the territory. Not in a big rush to move on from my 2018 MacBook Pro as I know how long it takes for 3rd party developers to make their hardware/software compatible. My MBP still runs circles around any PC I have ever owned and the longevity of Apple products means I have a few more years to decide…..I have never had a pc last more than 2 years with the exception of a couple of Toshiba Satellites I have had (now I just have a Surface Pro to tackle non-Mac tasks).
Honestly, I have noticed the same thing. I recently got a Windows Laptop (HP Spectre) and I am somewhat pleased how improved the Windows experience is compared to what it was in 2012. Oh and two years ago, I got an American car and pleasantly surprised how great the vehicle is.
I still use both, a 2019 (or so) Windows 11 machine, 8th gen i7, 16GB ram, ssd drive, Nvidea Gforce 1010 Graphics Chip; and a 2018 Macbook Pro, with the 8 core i7, 16GB ram, also SSD drive with the upgraded graphics chip. I was poking around using an app named Affinity, and decided to compare the two laptops on a 5 photo, Exposure array. Same array of photos, on each machine. I tried to time my click on the "apply" key as close as I could, and it was pretty close. The results kind of took me back. See attached.
As an ex-Amiga 500 and Amiga 1200 owner, and having used Lightwave which was part of the Videotoaster offering, that image warmed my heart. Good old times.
This is not true. Metal 1 and 2 games will still run fine - nothing ‘breaks’. Only if you as a developer want to leverage Version 3 features, you need to recompile with the new Metal targeted, and sometimes make code changes as well depending on the changes.
Not different from going from directX versions to Y.
When your game still ‘talks’ to Metal 1, no problem. Unless old versions get deprecated and then unsupported, but that’s not going to happen so fast. Only WebGL to Metal was an extreme, clean break.
Apple’s problem with gaming is a combination of different technological foundations that deviate from the dominant Windows platform, which makes it a costly endeavor for a developer to support an additional, very small user-base.
- CUDA/Nvidia isn’t supported by Apple
- App Store / Notarization can be a pain
- ARM versus Intel
- Metal versus DirectX
- Probably more…
In order for Apple to fix this, they need to start investing in acquiring AAA gaming companies, attract institutional knowledge, offer unique content, and grow a gaming culture outside their ****** Arcade mobile port subscription.
Funny how in terms of the average home user getting OS and security updates, Microsoft is now king. That same Macbook Air will get security updates directly and officially from Microsoft on Windows 10 until October 2025.
Guess Microsoft cares more about the environment than Apple.
Great example of what I was talking about: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/unpatchable-flaw-in-m1-chip.2347681/
In the US, inflation and gas prices are at record highs, and the economy is headed into the toilet.
I’m curious how many people will dump their old Mac and buy a new one just to get the new features from Ventura. The music won’t go on forever, just like 2008, and I would guess a majority of people buy these machines with debt and credit cards (yes Apple Card I’m looking at you). Once the economy goes south I’m not so sure this will remain the case.
I think that between a souring economy and a supply chain crisis, Apple is playing with fire by locking out relatively new machines from the upgrade. A 2016 MacBook Pro and a 2017 MacBook Air cannot run Ventura…are you kidding?! This will increase the OS fragmentation that already exists on iOS and MacOS. They are attempting to coerce people into new hardware, and I think it can backfire.
My mid-2012 MacBook Pro MD101 (last model with DVD drive and upgradable RAM and SSD) shipped with Lion 10.7, and Catalina 10.15 was the last new version supported. Count ‘em…that‘s 9 OS versions! The new support cycles are greedy, ridiculous and not environmentally friendly by any means.
Apple would be wise not to bite the hand that feeds it…not all of its customers are rich and willing to constantly upgrade. I make a good living, but I don’t have unlimited resources.
I’m curious how many people will dump their old Mac and buy a new one just to get the new features from Ventura. The music won’t go on forever, just like 2008, and I would guess a majority of people buy these machines with debt and credit cards (yes Apple Card I’m looking at you). Once the economy goes south I’m not so sure this will remain the case.
I think that between a souring economy and a supply chain crisis, Apple is playing with fire by locking out relatively new machines from the upgrade. A 2016 MacBook Pro and a 2017 MacBook Air cannot run Ventura…are you kidding?! This will increase the OS fragmentation that already exists on iOS and MacOS. They are attempting to coerce people into new hardware, and I think it can backfire.
My mid-2012 MacBook Pro MD101 (last model with DVD drive and upgradable RAM and SSD) shipped with Lion 10.7, and Catalina 10.15 was the last new version supported. Count ‘em…that‘s 9 OS versions! The new support cycles are greedy, ridiculous and not environmentally friendly by any means.
Apple would be wise not to bite the hand that feeds it…not all of its customers are rich and willing to constantly upgrade. I make a good living, but I don’t have unlimited resources.
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I always go with this: let them rot. They aint Listen warnings and can only see the money. A great manager will have the ability to see through money and beyond. Tim cook is not that guy.
There is no need to warn a company that is still peaking its value. Once the inevitable crash happens, they will enjoy their share of downturn just like everyone else, harder. I can’t wait to see that happening.
Why not just change the hard drive out for a SSD? It's a simple replacement on the 2012 mini, and you could still run Mojave.
(I'm on my 4th or 5th drive on this 2012 MBP, and while 10.14 sucks compared to 10.6, it's far better than 12.)