Anyone know how many watts this monitor uses? It's not in the Apple Tech Specs (interestingly). Seems like it might be power hungry...
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Here's a Sneak Peek Inside Apple's New Studio Display
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With the power of the A13, 64gb of internal memory and dual fans larger than those in the M1 Mac Mini, it makes me wonder if Apple could do more with this display in the future…
There were rumors previously that the display would be able to be used as a sort of external GPU for Apple Silicon Macs. I wonder if that is something that could be added in at some point.
Just seems kind of odd to have a chip as powerful as an A13 along with cooling fans just to enable “hey Siri” and webcam features. Seems like that could have easily been done with an Apple Watch chip.
There were rumors previously that the display would be able to be used as a sort of external GPU for Apple Silicon Macs. I wonder if that is something that could be added in at some point.
Just seems kind of odd to have a chip as powerful as an A13 along with cooling fans just to enable “hey Siri” and webcam features. Seems like that could have easily been done with an Apple Watch chip.
Just saw the Studio Display in the store over the weekend. I was wondering why is it noticeably thicker (at least 2-3x) than the iMac, which is a full computer in a smaller chassis.
But that makes sense, I didn’t think about charging. And I totally didn’t know the old Thunderbolt Display also had a fan.
I'm GUESSING it's some sort of technical limitation.
Center Stage was introduced on A13 devices, so A13 is likely the minimum SoC that can be used that supports Center Stage. However, the lowest amount of storage that ever shipped with A13 devices was 64 GB, so I wonder if the A13 hardware/software support is designed specifically for 64 GB and up... hence 64 GB in the Apple Studio Display.
But either way, this allows Apple simply to use the regular A13 + RAM piece.
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Can I get 4 of those for a Mac Pro? Would probably cost less than the official wheels...maybe...
No. You get a great monitor, without competition, that has the ability for Apple to download new features.
The monitor can provide nearly 100W of power to a MacBook, in addition to the power it draws itself. That's a lot of heat.
Yes but to remove it, they had to tie the other end to a charging rhino!Hey! The power cable is removable.
I am sure someone is working on trying to JailBreak that A13.
Evidently the A13 SoC package has 64MB standard so Apple just went with the standard package rather than commission a custom one with significantly less.
The iMac's power-supply is outside of the machine, so it can be thinner and the only parts that need active cooling is the M1 SoC and RAM.
I use an LG 5K that's been doing the same thing without a fan for half a decade. Well, my particular unit's not been around that long, but the model sure has.
Engineer: Hey Tim, we managed to redesign the 27" iMac with no-chin design
Tim C: But how do I charge people more money? Oh I know, make it into a monitor instead so people will have to buy another mac to actually do anything.
Tim C: But how do I charge people more money? Oh I know, make it into a monitor instead so people will have to buy another mac to actually do anything.
The bottom-right logic board is attached by a few cables and looks like it can be swapped out for a different one, perhaps with an M1 or M2 family chip. It is entirely possible that Apple might use a similar internal design for a 27" iMac, should they release one.
In fact, theoretically, one could reverse-engineer the protocol used for the cables, and stick an M1 Mac mini logic board in there -- an M1 iHac 27", if you will.
In fact, theoretically, one could reverse-engineer the protocol used for the cables, and stick an M1 Mac mini logic board in there -- an M1 iHac 27", if you will.
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It turns out you're right, it does! I stand corrected. What's odd is that even with this thing inside it, it's still dead silent. The Samsung G7 I've been trying to replace it with for the past few days is louder because of coil whine (I'm guessing from the power supply).If you think your LG 5K doesn't have a fan then I have some fun news for you
A13 SoC, 64GB of storage, Spatial Audio, iOS 15.x....should be enabled to double as a mini AIO Apple TV at the least.
This looks like the sloppiest internals Apple has ever done. Hope this is not a sign of the times.
This fixed power cord makes it a real pain to move it back and forth between Europe and the US. I have homes on both continents and have flown with my monitors in the past.
The two possibilities that occur to me/have seen suggested that make sense are:
* they're already contracting to produce tons of A13s with 64GB and with the chip shortage they decided to go with something that they already have a production line up and running and have a steady supply and if it's overpowered oh well, it'll just idle most of the time and that's that - and they always replace it with a lower powered chip in the future as chip availability improves.
* they put it in there for internal testing of various possible capabilities in subsequent displays, building out appletvs with displays, your suggestion about external GPU, etc, and will use it as a platform to collect telemetry on heat and such in the real world and do focused testing on those kinds of use and APIs, to be used in a future much more powerful chip (certainly for external GPU capabilities) in the future.
Yeah I don't think they need to run at any particularly high RPM, and if you run two you can run them even lower (and two fans running don't add up to double the noise). I've not taken a deep dive into the reviews of this yet but I expect fan noise to be a non-issue.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this started out as an M1 Pro/Max 27” iMac in development, but Apple later changed course since it doesn’t have the thermals for maximum performance (or for the M1 Ultra).
No chin? Also, the Studio Display includes the power supply. It's external on the 24" iMac.
Undoubtedly they prototyped a 27" Apple Silicon iMac but that doesn't mean they would have retained those design characteristics for the 27" Studio Display. Remember, they can design several different items at the same time.