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Here's How Apple's New MacBook Pro Compares to Last Year's Model
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I've actually been very interested in the new design on the macbook and the pro lineup. Coming from a 2011 macbook air, I've struggled with Photoshop lightroom processing in the background and safari browsing+texting on imessage/WhatsApp.
Looking at benchmark and specifications, it would appear that the macbook would be faster than my air, but in terms of real usage, how capable will the macbook be? (Eg if I want to playback 1080p or even 4k video on an external screen on top of lightroom and safari)
It's possible High Sierra could eke out some more life on the same battery. I remember a few years back, one of the updates (I think it was Mavericks) yielded seriously better battery life. On my 2011 MacBook Air, before it I was getting about 4 hours, after it I got over 5 hours, so >25% increase, it was kind of shocking.
An iPad pro would not work for me or my firm. The MacBook Air might work but I'd rather have the premium screen and nicer body
If you have to ask, you probably don't need a notebook. 220GB wasn't enough for me in 2008. I upgraded it immediately to 500GB 7200 RPM drive at the time. I'd need at least 1TB these days internal. That pushes the 15" model to over $3000, which is just short of RIDICULOUS.
Yea, others have commented similarly. I suspect a class-action could not be filed on the grounds of false advertising, because they didn't ultimately falsely advertise, but they did twist the issue substantially, which is super devious, and despicable.
At least for fellow Aussies the price of the top tier base 15" went from A$4249 to A$4099, and it has a 560 as opposed to a 455, saving around 200 on the graphics upgrade
What I complain about is they charge way too damn much for storage! A 1TB SSD drive costs around $350. Apple is essentially charging you ~$800 for one when you figure on the trade-in value for what it comes with. Meanwhile, 128GB isn't enough for anyone outside little old ladies looking at Facebook pages! On a "PRO" notebook!!! My $38 Windows phone has more storage than that with an $99 SD Card added (208GB!) for god's sake. Maybe Apple should include an SD Card holder so people can upgrade their internal storage because there's no changing it after the fact on these models, unlike older ones (I easily upgraded my 2008 Macbook Pro to a 500GB drive and could upgrade it now to a 1TB SSD drive if I want to spend money on an old notebook).
I thought Apple claimed they improved their graphics performance 3x faster with these updates? I'm not seeing it. Or is that with the external graphics card for Thunderbolt III?
It is my understanding that it is based on when the next Intel chips are out, which is being delayed so Apple likely won't be able to release an update again until early next year(and between the iMac pro and mac pro they might do a silent update), otherwise it will be next March keynote.
I am really curious about the graphics, Apple made it clear the iMac can do VR, the iMac 21 inch has the Radeon Pro 555/560, the same as the MacBook Pro, but the 27 inch comes with Radeon Pro 570-580, so is the VR support exclusive to the 27 inch iMac(possibly only with the upgraded graphics), or do all retina iMac and Macbook Pro(15 inch only of course) work with VR?
Before the new 2017 models were announced, I seem to have read that coffee lake MBP would get 30% increase in performance. Given that the just released ones are 20% faster. Does that mean even waiting for half a year more, I could only get 10% increase in performance compared with the just released ones?
You shouldn't be using your internal HD to store large files anyway -- use a backup drive, a RAID, cloud storage, etc. To keep your Mac fast, don't store large files on your desktop, and don't trust SSDs with critical data. 128GB drives serve a purpose, and if most of your data is on remote servers, you don't game, and your music is supplied by streaming services, 128GB should be plenty.
Also, get into the habit of archiving files you don't need anymore. Or just trash them. You'll never run out of space.
Same here. I have a Late 2012 15" Retina and 16GB RAM was the best option FIVE FRICKIN' YEARS AGO. I know this is Intel's fault and not Apple's, but c'mon dudes. You'd think Tim Cook himself could light a fire under someone's ass at Intel to make this happen. It's not like they're reinventing the wheel... sheesh.
Here is a few fully upgraded 15" MBP Geekbench scores for anyone who cares.
[doublepost=1496974197][/doublepost]Here is a few fully upgraded 15" MBP Geekbench GPU scores for anyone who cares.
[doublepost=1496974197][/doublepost]Here is a few fully upgraded 15" MBP Geekbench GPU scores for anyone who cares.
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Maybe not you but for me its just fine. I wonder if Apple will buy my 2016 so I can get a 2017 model.
Hahaha. Sorry. This is just amusing to me. Ive been working in high end film and tv for almost 20 years and been programming since I first got a PET, before the C64, but some kid on this forum is gonna give me storage advice.
I'll save the effort and tell you nothing you said is anywhere close to anything relevant to any workflow I have or will ever have. I also work remotely or onset in counties that have horrible wifi and internet and no cellular service. Also none of the programs I use for onset work live on, or use, the "cloud."
Your comments are irrelevant to me and other power users, but just a note more than most of my 2TB audio media server is music that is not available on the cloud. Maybe if you just listen to Justin Balieber your fine, but there is a lot of real music that will never be licensed for steaming.
Yes, if you only listen to online music and use Gmail then 128gb should be fine, agreed, but I'm not sure why they would be using OS X, since an "Etch a Sketch" should be fine. Big /S
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You thought you were going to get something for nothing. Now youre angry that lunch costs money.
[doublepost=1496974732][/doublepost]We dont need a red carpet for these incremental barely noticeable at best refreshes.
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Plenty of users don’t need that much storage. As a business purchase 128gb is plenty considering if you were to roll out 100 new computers you could shave $20,000 off the price you paid. Employees ain’t storing 4K videos on them.
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Apple's strategy of dumbing down MBPs and positioning iPad Pro higher is quite apparent now, isn't it... I'm thinking about 3-4 years before they converge? I might be off by a year or so, but Tim the Laptop Slayer is quite loud and open about what he thinks about laptops - make it more of a niche product while charging a stupid price while you can.
Apple's strategy of dumbing down MBPs and positioning iPad Pro higher is quite apparent now, isn't it... I'm thinking about 3-4 years before they converge? I might be off by a year or so, but Tim the Laptop Slayer is quite loud and open about what he thinks about laptops - make it more of a niche product while charging a stupid price while you can.
It sounds like that company should be ordering off the dollar menu at Micky D's not buying their employees computers. If I got 128GB of storage on a laptop I would throw it in the trash, worthless. /S
[doublepost=1496976913][/doublepost]As this discussion of 128GB versus 256GB decays into madness, the argument isn't weather or not someone can make use of 128GB in everyday life. I mean obviously you can, anyone can. I've had netbooks with very little storage.
The point is Apple could have made the baseline 256GB and charged the same price. It has nothing to do with weather or not one can use a computer with 128GB.
No internal SD card slot = No Interest
The rest comparatively doesn't matter.
But if someone wanted it to matter, we could then talk about the smaller battery, finger-ache-inducing keyboard, and lack of even one legacy USB-A port (even on the spacious 15" model). Those are serious caveats that no performance boost will cause us to overlook. We aren't talking about the MacBook or MacBook AIR here. We are talking about the MacBook PRO.
Take note of how many legacy USB-A ports the new iMacs have and also note the presence of the SD card slot. And before you tell me, "yeah, but that's because there's more space," consider well the 15" MBP has plenty of space. Not enough, you say? Yet another reason to bring back the 17" MBP to finally satisfy "Pros." Never gonna happen, you say? Well, Apple finally came out with a wireless keyboard with numeric keyboard, illustrating clearly that pigs do fly now.
Apple has publicly say that "constant negativity" does influence them to change their tune. Therefore, folks, it's time you stop singing to the choir, stop praising the status quo out of Cupertino, and join me in helping Apple change their tune with regard to the MacBook "Pro," making it truly "Pro" once again:
https://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html
The rest comparatively doesn't matter.
But if someone wanted it to matter, we could then talk about the smaller battery, finger-ache-inducing keyboard, and lack of even one legacy USB-A port (even on the spacious 15" model). Those are serious caveats that no performance boost will cause us to overlook. We aren't talking about the MacBook or MacBook AIR here. We are talking about the MacBook PRO.
Take note of how many legacy USB-A ports the new iMacs have and also note the presence of the SD card slot. And before you tell me, "yeah, but that's because there's more space," consider well the 15" MBP has plenty of space. Not enough, you say? Yet another reason to bring back the 17" MBP to finally satisfy "Pros." Never gonna happen, you say? Well, Apple finally came out with a wireless keyboard with numeric keyboard, illustrating clearly that pigs do fly now.
Apple has publicly say that "constant negativity" does influence them to change their tune. Therefore, folks, it's time you stop singing to the choir, stop praising the status quo out of Cupertino, and join me in helping Apple change their tune with regard to the MacBook "Pro," making it truly "Pro" once again:
https://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html