Well said. I don't get their logic of not needing more space.
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Here's How Apple's New MacBook Pro Compares to Last Year's Model
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Wow. You must be a 'real' professional then. Thank you for gracing the world with your existence. Say hello to God for me when your busy professional schedule allows, you must see Him everyday since your head is already way up in the clouds.
It's one thing to have a different opinion and disagreement in discussion. It's quite another to bash someone else with your extensive resume. Why do we need to put someone else down and exalt ourselves in order to make a point?
Just a small tiny observation: The post that you so condescendingly responded to makes a lot of sense – in today's context. Just because your long-established workflows haven't adopted current trends doesn't mean it will always remain that way.
I ran it again with the auto GPU switching turned off, and I still get around 40K. Do you think there is something wrong with my GPU?
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I don't know but I ran it again too and got 56K this time.
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Here's what I don't understand.
Nobody is holding a gun to these people's heads and forcing them to buy the 128gb option.
Buy the space you need. If you need 1 TB storage, then by all means pony up the cash to buy one. Last I checked, the refreshed MBPs are still the same price; Apple has only added a cheaper model which sports less storage. Users have not been disadvantaged in any way.
It's the same baffling, head-scratching complaints I get from people about Apple still offering a 16gb iPhone a few years back. How is this stopping consumers from opting for the 64gb or 128gb models?
From what I see, people are complaining about Apple not offering more storage for cheaper, not that Apple isn't offering more storage.
Will the whining never stop?
When Apple puts appropriate specs in their devices for the price points they're selling at.
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No but now you can't just buy a baseline product and upgrade it. Apple's upgrade prices for SSDs in MacBook Pros are ridiculous.
Thanks for catching this, I will look into it and exchange it if I must. I restarted and ran it multiple times over and the highest I got is 42K, which is nowhere close to what you are getting.
This times 100! I went to a 1TB drive in 2014, and have a 1TB SSD in my 2012 MacBook Pro. At the rate things are going, I'm hoping this machine lasts a LONGG time.
If you want best performance to price ratio, make your own windows gaming rig (seriously). With Apple, what you are getting is hardware differentiated by unique software and services, which in turn allows Apple to sell them at a handsome margin.
That's the blessing and the curse of Apple products. If you want what other companies cannot give, then you have to pay the Apple Tax for it. As of the moment, there is no shortage of consumers willing to do this, so the ball is in Apple's court, and they have the final say as to how much they wish to charge.
Common sense tells you why Apple is in no hurry to allow this.
That shouldn't be an "upgrade" on a pro machine.
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So here's one guy who'd spend $1299 on a Pro machine just for "e-mail/Internet".
$1299 for an email/internet computer makes sense if one is tied up in the Apple ecosystem. Most obvious scenario is when you have hundreds of credentials stored in iCloud keychain and you need it for work and home on a daily basis. If "internet" includes watching high quality videos and browsing images then Air is out, too.
Personally, what you get in upgrades for 2017 does not match the amount of excitement and enthusiasm the Apple community exudes.
Apple could put their logo on a 12 oz plastic cup and charge $30 and we would buy it. Then charge us $60 for a 16 oz cup and we would buy that too...
Apple could put their logo on a 12 oz plastic cup and charge $30 and we would buy it. Then charge us $60 for a 16 oz cup and we would buy that too...
I'm glad you said that.
http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/2728608
Multicore score of 15,671. It's 17.9mm thick, available with an 4k screen. USB-C as well as USB 3 ports. 4k HDMI port. At 14" it's comparable in price to the 13" MBP of the same SSD capacity. And it comes standard with 16 gig of ram at that price. But it has upgradable SSD with a PCI-E slot.
Oh, and it has an NVidia GTX1060, and is a gorgeous machine with a better keyboard than the MBP and RGB backlighting.
So, I think it's safe to say the MBP is a pretty gimped machine to compare an iPad to and sets the bar really low.
And I only picked that model to keep the size and weight way down. Outside of Apple you can get a desktop class powerhouse complete with a mechanical keyboard in a 17" 10 pound package.
True, except the didn't address any of the past deficiencies. I guarantee you that at one point Apple will add a lightning port.
The biggest problem I have with this laptop is dongle galore. Forget about taking it to a meeting without a bag of dongles. Need to hook it up to a projector, hope you brought a dongle. Need to plug in a USB, dongle. Need to plug in a lightning headphone, dongle.
It's a nice laptop. but Tim's fetish with dongles is a bit much!
People defend Apple for illogical reasons sometimes. 128gb in a premium laptop is an embarrassment. Out of decency they should start at 256gb storage and even that I would find a little insulting, but more acceptable than the new offering.
If 128gb is enough for you, maybe that someone should be buying a MacBook or a MacBook Air or actually an iPad Pro, since it seems those web/casual tasks these people do would be done perfectly well on an iPad as well.
Are there any other differences between the two new models except for those I mention here:
The 2017 model with 15", 2.8 Ghz, Radeon 555 with 512 GB SSD upgrade is 3039 euro
The 2017 model with 15", 2.9 Ghz, Radeon 560 standard 512GB SSD is 3299 euro.
That is 260 euro difference for 0.1 Ggz and a bump in GPU (2 GB+). Or are there any other differences?
The 2017 model with 15", 2.8 Ghz, Radeon 555 with 512 GB SSD upgrade is 3039 euro
The 2017 model with 15", 2.9 Ghz, Radeon 560 standard 512GB SSD is 3299 euro.
That is 260 euro difference for 0.1 Ggz and a bump in GPU (2 GB+). Or are there any other differences?
I just wanted rid of the touchbar most of all. I returned my 2016 in January as my late 2013 was just better in every Dept - yes I even managed to put up with that shocking extra millimeter of thickness when carrying it around the preceding 4 years - imagine that! But honestly they need to admit defeat on the touch bar - it's never going to be right if you cannot feel what you are pressing (Esc is especially weird) and if it's buggy and occasionally launching things when interacting with the numeric keys. It's a nice idea ruined by a lack of UX honesty and discipline in my view. I would have far rather seen customisable individual keys like we saw on that transformer keyboard that priced itself out of the market a few years ago - apple is already charging insane fees for tech so why not bring back that concept. Imagine having custom key combos assigned to single keys! That would save a ton of time when working professionally as this device is intended.
Instead of buying dongles, just buy some new USB-C cables. There are plenty of varieties available now to connect your existing devices (iPhone, USB 3.0 Mobile drives, card readers, etc). Except for HDMI, projectors or Thunderbolt 2.0 devices.
http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/Cables/c/usb-c-cables/
