Here's How Fast USB-C Ports Are on iPads and Macs Ahead of iPhone 15

[fatTribble]

I realize it’s just a name, but wireless charging requires a cable just like wired charging.
It’s just the connection that differs.

One of my friends thinks he’s in the future because of his advanced technology wireless charging. 🤭

 

[MayaUser]

Ue

I realize it’s just a name, but wireless charging requires a cable just like wired charging.
It’s just the connection that differs.

One of my friends thinks he’s in the future because of his advanced technology wireless charging. 🤭

100% agree...in fact this is not wireless charging but inductive charging....

 

[3530025]

true, very true...but in the cars we all use wireless charging...sorry but the world is not thinking about environment, they are thinking about themselves..

No, we don't. When using wireless CarPlay the phone gets hot and is not charging very fast (or at all) via wireless charging and in such cases you definitely want to connect it old school via cable. Especially on longer trips.

 

[fatTribble]

true, very true...but in the cars we all use wireless charging...sorry but the world is not thinking about environment, they are thinking about themselves..

I live in a different world, thankfully.

 

[3530025]

I realize it’s just a name, but wireless charging requires a cable just like wired charging.
It’s just the connection that differs.

One of my friends thinks he’s in the future because of his advanced technology wireless charging. 🤭

And with such, it really does not make sense on the go. Wireless charger is inefficient and takes a lot more space than just simple cable.

 

[fithian]

What about MacBook Air 2023?

Answering my own query, it has TB4, so 40Gbps.

 

[fatTribble]

And with such, it really does not make sense on the go. Wireless charger is inefficient and takes a lot more space than just simple cable.

Agreed! To me I think the tiny cable seems like the upgrade over the big charging puck.
Smaller connector and faster charging….I’m sold! 🤓

 

[ThatGuyInLa]

I have been looking forward to shooting in ProRes and having high speed transfer ability. The top spec iPhone15 Ultra Super Duper Edition will be a welcome upgrade from my 12 Pro! No more transcoding in to FCPx!

 

[CTHarrryH]

I'm certain that most users won't care/notice about charging and data transfer speeds but for those that do it will be great.

I still think we should send our old cables/charger blocks to the EU - let them get rid of the waste they caused.

 

[ikramerica]

It doesn’t seem terrible to basically include a charging cable in the box. For the percentage of people who need fast data transfer they can buy the high speed cable. Just my thought.

And considering a lot of cheap lightness cables can’t even do fast charging, including a cable engineered for fast charging over fast data sounds fine.

 

[George Dawes]

Using iCloud why exactly do you need a port ?

 

[Populus]

Without going into the debate about wether it is convenient to have high transfer speeds on an iPhone or not, I think just for technology sake, those USB 2.0 speeds on the 15 are a bit anachronistic.

However, I can understand that maybe the A16 doesn’t support it. Let’s hope that by next year, the iPhone 16 connector will support at least the USB 3.2 protocol.

 

[dhershberger]

These articles keep talking of "Thunderbolt speeds," but I am curious if the phone may support the TB3 or TB4 specification. If the pro phone supports TB4, for example, one could output video from the phone's port. While it may be redundant with AirPlay, I am still curious.

 

[tripsync]

Going portless is against environment.
Wireless charging is very inefficient compared to the cable. And always will be.

Then EU should have banned it if they are actually mandating USB-C for the environment.

They didn't.

 

[3530025]

Then EU should have banned it if they are actually mandating USB-C for the environment.

They didn't.

Maybe they will, in the future. Or they'll mandate only high efficient chargers and standards. All possible. Step by step. That's EU's way.

Mandating USB-C was not a huge thing actually, because it basically affected just Apple. If Apple already switched few years back, many people probably would not even notice this mandate.

 

[East India Company]

true, very true...but in the cars we all use wireless charging...sorry but the world is not thinking about environment, they are thinking about themselves..

Unfortunately you are very correct. Most of the world does not care about the environment but rather themselves and their image. We are quite doomed.

 

[CapitalIdea]

Using iCloud why exactly do you need a port ?

CarPlay for cars that do not support wireless CarPlay or for users who prefer not to deal with the annoying latency of wireless in that situation.

 

[tripsync]

Maybe they will, in the future. Step by step. That's EU's way.

That's a stupid way.

That's like waiting until Apple adopts a certain way for billions of phones and then telling Apple "hey, do it our way and tell your customers to throw out your way"

Oh wait, that's literally what happened with lightning.

EU really going to be waiting until Apple adopts portless and sells billions of MagSafe cables before banning wireless?

Or they'll mandate only high efficient chargers and standards. All possible.

There will always be much more power loss in wireless chargers compared to cabled charging, no matter how efficient. That's just physics.

 

[3530025]

There will always be much more power loss in wireless chargers compared to cabled charging, no matter how efficient. That's just physics.

Yep Physics 101. Exactly what I said few posts back.

But maybe the difference will decrease in the future and it may be viable option for some use-cases.

I mean it's not *all* about environment. It's not the point to ban more convenient things even if they are a little bit less efficient. The issue is when they are a lot less efficient and/or when there's efficient alternative available.

 

[cocky jeremy]

while 99% of the rest of us will continue to use the cable as for charging only

switching to usb-c before iPhone going portless is pointless and terrible for the environment

The whole idea is stupid as hell. Anyone with an iPhone already has Lightning cables. Not all of them have a USB C cable. Now they have to buy new cables, and throw away (now) obsolete cables. Zero logic to the "Save the environment" BS.. lol.

 

[tripsync]

It's not the point to ban more convenient things

Reusing one of 20 lightning cables I have in my box would be convenient. Unfortunately EU is taking that away. Instead, I'm given USB-C 2.0, likely 100W cables which would be confusing in the future when I need cables that need to charge above 100W or need more than USB-C 2.0 to do certain things (such as my Quest VR headset tethered to my computer for better graphics) and don't know which cable does what.

Point is, EU needs to do this now so Apple doesn't force EU's switch onto billions of people who already got accustomed to doing it the Apple way. That is terrible for the environment.

 

[Tagbert]

These articles keep talking of "Thunderbolt speeds," but I am curious if the phone may support the TB3 or TB4 specification. If the pro phone supports TB4, for example, one could output video from the phone's port. While it may be redundant with AirPlay, I am still curious.

IPads using iPadOS can connect to external displays using Thunderbolt so a Pro phone might be able to do so. This article was talking about the non-pro phones which it seems will not get Thunderbolt.

There is no performance difference between Thunderbolt 3 and 4. TB4 is just a specification change that requires some features that were optional for TB3. Apple still specifies the MBAs as TB3 because TB4 requires supporting multiple display connections and the MBA doesn’t support that.

 

[3530025]

Reusing one of 20 lightning cables I have in my box would be convenient. Unfortunately EU is taking that away. Instead, I'm given USB-C 2.0, likely 100W cables which would be confusing in the future when I need cables that need to charge above 100W or need more than USB-C 2.0 to do certain things (such as my Quest VR headset tethered to my computer for better graphics) and don't know which cable does what.

Maybe reuse one of your usb-c cables which almost every other device is using (funnily enough even all Apple devices but iPhone and airpods [and mouse and keyboard])

 

[Jumpthesnark]

Using iCloud why exactly do you need a port ?

Many of us don't use iCloud for data/backups/photo storage, etc.

 

[3530025]

IPads using iPadOS can connect to external displays using Thunderbolt so a Pro phone might be able to do so. This article was talking about the non-pro phones which it seems will not get Thunderbolt.

There is no performance difference between Thunderbolt 3 and 4. TB4 is just a specification change that requires some features that were optional for TB3. Apple still specifies the MBAs as TB3 because TB4 requires supporting multiple display connections and the MBA doesn’t support that.

Imagine having possibility to use iPhone 15 Pro as a computer with the external screen and keyboard. Game changer.