Here's How Much Faster the A18 Pro Chip is Compared to the A17 Pro

Darren.h said:
I guessed 15 percent. close. came out to 18.

then we go to 2nm silicon. all performance gains after this should be small.
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How extremely ignorant.

The next couple of generations will bring GAAFET/RibbonFET and BSPDNs. That will allow for significant improvements. And there's plenty of runway after that.

And about performance increases:
MayaUser said:
Yes but not on the efficiency anymore
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Also false.

The days of perfect Moore's law & Dennard scaling are behind us, but the industry still has lots of room to improve.
 
WarmWinterHat said:
You listed all the things I have zero interest in, so thanks for making me feel better about keeping my 13 Pro! 😊

As for this geekbench news, I have never bought or recommended a phone based on geekbench scores, nor even cared about them, and I'm not going to today. Yawn.
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"I don't care about geekbench scores, that's why I dived into the comments on an article about the geekbench scores"
 
Itsedstech said:
Not trying to be compelling, just stating the things his 15pm cant do lol but yeah we’re at small bumps at this point. Wonder when they’ll pull an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and start only updating every 2 years
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That would probably make sense.
 
MacRumors said:


An early benchmark result for the A18 Pro chip in the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max appears to have surfaced on the Geekbench 6 website.

A18-Pro-Chip.jpg

The single result shows that the A18 Pro is up to 18% faster than the A17 Pro chip. During its iPhone 16 event, Apple said the A18 Pro is up to 15% faster than the A17 Pro, so the result is within the ballpark of that claim.

Here are the Geekbench 6 results for comparison:

  • A18 Pro single-core score (one result): 3,409 single-core score (+18%)
  • A17 Pro single-core score (average): 2,896 single-core score
  • A18 Pro multi-core score (one result): 8,492 multi-core score (+18%)
  • A17 Pro multi-core score (average): 7,192 multi-core score
With a multi-core score of 8,492, the A18 Pro's performance is equivalent to the M1 chip in the 2020 model of the Mac mini, according to the Geekbench 6 website.

All in all, the latest high-end iPhones offer modest year-over-year performance gains over the previous models, as is typically the case. With the A18 Pro chip, Apple said the iPhone continues to have the fastest CPU available in any smartphone.

Article Link: Here's How Much Faster the A18 Pro Chip is Compared to the A17 Pro
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Get used to minimal increases for awhile TSMC has said they've hit a plateau they will be on for awhile. That's why Apple's been playing games with GPU count to give illusion of speed increase to their typical buyer by speeding up the GUI. Now they are increasing neural cores to help with AI processing that is going to be CPU intensive and power hungry. Apple silicon was a big boost, but at the same time they hit the point of diminishing returns for their average buyer.
 
rme said:
wccftech.com

iPhone 16 Gets Re-Tested On Geekbench 6, A18 Performance Properly Reflected With An Almost 28 Percent Increase In Multi-Core Score Compared To Previous Result

The A18 featured in the iPhone 16 was re-run on Geekbench 6, with updated scores showing a significantly better result than before
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17,2 is A18Pro, 17,3 is A18. The article is saying this is a regular 16 when in fact it's 16 Pro Geekbench results.
appleosophy.com

iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Geekbench Results are out

Apple announced its brand new products to the iPhone lineup at its 'Glowtime' event today ”“ iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Plus, iPhone 16 Pro, and iPhone 16 Pro Max, taking technology to the next level. The highlighting feature of the new iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro series is Apple Intelligence, which wa
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docbop said:
Get used to minimal increases for awhile TSMC has said they've hit a plateau they will be on for awhile. That's why Apple's been playing games with GPU count to give illusion of speed increase to their typical buyer by speeding up the GUI. Now they are increasing neural cores to help with AI processing that is going to be CPU intensive and power hungry. Apple silicon was a big boost, but at the same time they hit the point of diminishing returns for their average buyer.
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Lots of nonsense here.

As I just posted, the next TSMC nodes will bring GAAFET and BSPDNs. Those will have significant impacts.

Increasing GPU count isn't "playing games", though it's good for playing games, and will have zero effect on performance of the GUI. A single GPU core is far more than enough for that.

There have been 16 NPU cores since the A14. No increased count there - though they have improved those cores continually.
 
klasma said:
The better comparison here is Lunar Lake, which reaches 75% of the M4 performance in single-core, and now reaches comparable battery life to MacBooks:

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Yes, Intel is still catching up, but they are catching up.
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And Lunar Lake is using the N3B process that TSMC used to make the A17 Pro / M3 series which Apple abandoned in favour of N3E.

It's an ultrabook CPU but a credible competitor to Apple.
 
sublunar said:
And Lunar Lake is using the N3B process that TSMC used to make the A17 Pro / M3 series which Apple abandoned in favour of N3E.

It's an ultrabook CPU but a credible competitor to Apple.
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In what way is it a credible competitor?

If you need Windows on x86, then Apple is unlikely to be in the running. But if you're just comparing hardware... it is demolished by M4. Much better than their previous efforts, to be sure. But a long ways from being a peer, much less superior.
 
If you do not notice it while using the phone it doesn't matter

Mactech20 said:
Crazy how a phone from 2024 has a faster CPU single and multi than a 6,000 computer from 2019.... (2019 Mac Pro, 8 core)

Mac Pro "Eight Core" 3.5 (2019) Specs (2019, BTO/CTO*, MacPro7,1, A1991, 3203): EveryMac.com

Technical specifications for the Mac Pro "Eight Core" 3.5 (2019). Dates sold, processor type, memory info, hard drive details, price and more.
everymac.com everymac.com

RIP x86
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I do not believe this. You telling me if I connect an iphone 16 to a keyboard + monitor it will be able to render videos and do 3D games like a Mac Pro from 2019?
 
Mactech20 said:
Crazy how a phone from 2024 has a faster CPU single and multi than a 6,000 computer from 2019.... (2019 Mac Pro, 8 core)

Mac Pro "Eight Core" 3.5 (2019) Specs (2019, BTO/CTO*, MacPro7,1, A1991, 3203): EveryMac.com

Technical specifications for the Mac Pro "Eight Core" 3.5 (2019). Dates sold, processor type, memory info, hard drive details, price and more.
everymac.com everymac.com

RIP x86
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current x86 is much faster

yes it takes ALOT more power, but that's fine for a desktop computer

why apple won't make desktop chips for their current desktop computers is the question
 
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