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What Apple were willing to do in a smartphone in terms of making the device fragile and difficult to repair started with the 4. The 3g/s were the easiest to repair and the most durable. I bet that plastic back would work with Qi charging and if you really needed to replace a cracked back you could do it yourself with a $40 part and a 000 Phillips.
 
What Apple were willing to do in a smartphone in terms of making the device fragile and difficult to repair started with the 4. The 3g/s were the easiest to repair and the most durable. I bet that plastic back would work with Qi charging and if you really needed to replace a cracked back you could do it yourself with a $40 part and a 000 Phillips.
....Have you ever worked on an iPhone? They've gotten even simpler to work on over the years. I'd NEVER consider working on a 3GS or older (****ing clips), but I've worked on the 4s, the 5, 5s, 6s so far. No issues.
 
Not on the 2007 iPhone they don't... do they?

Is there someone that you actually know that still using an iPhone from 2007? (Rhetorical)

Point is, technology has advanced where it allows us to not rely on everything that we always needed in the past and the conveniences of What we have today. But everyone appreciates different things and technology is an ever changing field.
 
Even with my sometimes critical comments of Apple, what they have engineered in the iPhone over the past decade is nothing short of amazing.
Oh, and Samsung (CPU), TSMC (silicon fabrication), Qualcomm/Broadcom/ARM/ST (chip design), Foxconn (assembly), and Sharp/LG/Samsung (LCD and OLED) had nothing to do with it, along with the dozens of other players, CAD tools, etc. No, Apple designed and created everything! Steve Jobs did it all!
 
I would be interested in Apple Watch Series 10 Vs. 1st Gen comparison. Every freaking year, the watch keeps getting thicker and thicker. I was looking at my first gen watch the other day and oh boy it was MUCH thinner in my opinion.
 
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Oh, and Samsung (CPU), TSMC (silicon fabrication), Qualcomm/Broadcom/ARM/ST (chip design), Foxconn (assembly), and Sharp/LG/Samsung (LCD and OLED) had nothing to do with it, along with the dozens of other players, CAD tools, etc. No, Apple designed and created everything! Steve Jobs did it all!
Oh, it's ******** semantics hour already? Where does the time go?

That's not the point that poster was making, and you know it.
 
I'm just amazed that the current iPhones compared to the original have much bigger screens, faster processors & GPU's, faster modems, additional hardware functionality and thinner bodies, yet they have a much longer battery life even though the batteries are just slightly bigger at 1,400 mAh for the original vs 1,821 mAh for the iPhone 8! :eek:
 
Oh, it's ******** semantics hour already? Where does the time go?

That's not the point that poster was making, and you know it.
And the point I'm making is people need to stop thinking that Apple invented, designed, developed, and fabricated the LCD display, CPU, camera, touch screen, GPS, etc. Brilliant engineers all over the world did that. That is *real* engineering. Steve Jobs yelling at a developer or bullying suppliers into exclusive, cheap cost deals, hoarding DRAM and locking out other buyers, and hiring slave labor in China is more of what Apple is about. It's capitalism. It's business.

This romanticization of Apple as the do-gooder, the benevolent creator of your coveted devices is getting out of hand.
 
Wow, technology has gotten better in the last 10 years - thanks to shrinking silicon processes (TSMC, UMC, Intel, Samsung), LCD technology (Sharp, Samsung, LG), Chip design and integration innovation (Samsung, Qualcomm, ARM, Broadcom), and camera technology (Sony).

Nowhere do I see Apple, except taking that technology and putting it in a shiny rectangle. Well, they *do* write the software.

How about a photo showing how the battery got smaller from the 7 to the 8? Progress!
Like I have said, to many foreigners involved.
 
Is there someone that you actually know that still using an iPhone from 2007? (Rhetorical)

Point is, technology has advanced where it allows us to not rely on everything that we always needed in the past and the conveniences of What we have today. But everyone appreciates different things and technology is an ever changing field.

The article is about comparing a current iPhone to an original iPhone from 2007.... Which is why I quoted it, directly talking about an iPhone from 2007.

My point is that I think it's funny that in order to use standard wired headphones on the original iPhone, as the article referred to, many people had to use an adapter that fit the recessed socket, and on many (not all) current iPhones on sale now they would have to use a lightning-to-3.5mm adapter. In-between of course were a long run of iPhones released where it was easy to use standard headphones.

If you find Airpods more convenient, good for you. But they aren't really anything to do with what I was saying, at all. *shrugs*
 
Wow, technology has gotten better in the last 10 years - thanks to shrinking silicon processes (TSMC, UMC, Intel, Samsung), LCD technology (Sharp, Samsung, LG), Chip design and integration innovation (Samsung, Qualcomm, ARM, Broadcom), and camera technology (Sony).

Nowhere do I see Apple, except taking that technology and putting it in a shiny rectangle. Well, they *do* write the software.

How about a photo showing how the battery got smaller from the 7 to the 8? Progress!
You don't think it takes any engineering to put it all together in a way that works?
 
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And the point I'm making is people need to stop thinking that Apple invented, designed, developed, and fabricated the LCD display, CPU, camera, touch screen, GPS, etc. Brilliant engineers all over the world did that. That is *real* engineering. Steve Jobs yelling at a developer or bullying suppliers into exclusive, cheap cost deals, hoarding DRAM and locking out other buyers, and hiring slave labor in China is more of what Apple is about. It's capitalism. It's business.

This romanticization of Apple as the do-gooder, the benevolent creator of your coveted devices is getting out of hand.
So start a ****ing thread instead of projecting your topic onto another post that had nothing to do with it.

BTW, while there are plenty of off the shelf components in iPhones, Apple DOES invent quite a few of their own tech and then WORKS WITH THEIR MANUFACTURERS down to the fabrication level (in several cases actually inventing new processes and then EQUIPPING their manufacturers with that process).

Your pushback on that is astounding given the W1 & W2, the timer coalescing chip they made for the iMac 5k (truly an apple invention to solve a problem the standards didn't have an answer for) and new iPads, their completely in house designed GPU, the custom designed Image Signal Processor they've integrated into their A-Series chips, their pioneering of an HTTP streaming protocol that they designed and pushed for inclusion at the standards bodies, etc.

It seems in your effort to get more people to realize that Apple doesn't invent it all, you've completely discounted that in very specific areas they've done exactly that. You went to the far deep end when the reality is a mix of both off the shelf components AND completely in-house designs/processes.
 
And the point I'm making is people need to stop thinking that Apple invented, designed, developed, and fabricated the LCD display, CPU, camera, touch screen, GPS, etc. Brilliant engineers all over the world did that. That is *real* engineering. Steve Jobs yelling at a developer or bullying suppliers into exclusive, cheap cost deals, hoarding DRAM and locking out other buyers, and hiring slave labor in China is more of what Apple is about. It's capitalism. It's business.

This romanticization of Apple as the do-gooder, the benevolent creator of your coveted devices is getting out of hand.
Since this site and it’s members are obviously annoying the hell out of you, why are you here? Easy trolling or easy cash?
 
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The article is about comparing a current iPhone to an original iPhone from 2007.... Which is why I quoted it, directly talking about an iPhone from 2007.

If you find Airpods more convenient, good for you. But they aren't really anything to do with what I was saying, at all.

And the article is also comparing current technology from the latest generation iPhone, which is why I quoted you regarding reference your 3.5 mm Jack comment. My post is just as relevant as yours is, becuase you mentioned one specific feature from an iPhone Generation as did I.

Aside from conflating, you're not interpreting my Post accurately, It's Not just what I find convenient with the AirPods or even Bluetooth for that matter, which wasn't my point. I previously indicated, technology (As a whole) has advanced where we don't need to rely on everything that we used to with the use of wires. Nor am I indicating everybody should have the same preferences either.

For reference again: This is my entire point.

Point is, technology has advanced where it allows us to not rely on everything that we always needed in the past and the conveniences of What we have today. But everyone appreciates different things and technology is an ever changing field.
 
I'm just amazed that the current iPhones compared to the original have much bigger screens, faster processors & GPU's, faster modems, additional hardware functionality and thinner bodies, yet they have a much longer battery life even though the batteries are just slightly bigger at 1,400 mAh for the original vs 1,821 mAh for the iPhone 8! :eek:

They just need a battery that will last one day as most people have the opportunity to charge every night. It’s not really a big selling point I guess although I really miss a phone that could hold power for a whole week.
 
Only thing that hasn't changed is the terrible battery life. Can't believe we are still using battery tech that's decades old.

Not sure what options we have on that score. Nobody's any closer to developing a cold fusion reactor to compensate and they've been chasing that for 50 years.
 
Man, one could only imagine how much the Mac mini must have changed in the past 10 years...

Oh, wait...
Apple did redesign it once in 2010, that is 7 years ago. For the past 7 years it has looked exactly the same on the outside except for port differences on the back (and the ODD slot on non-server 2010 models), and exactly the same on the inside except when the 2014 dropped the upgradable RAM/access panel and went to PCIe SSD in place of one 2.5" bay.
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The original iPhone looks so sloppy!
True, really makes you appreciate how much effort Apple's engineers put into making the inside of their products look clean, as well as maximizing the usable space in a thin device like the iPhone.
 
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