I would even venture the lack of option in the settings app on the watch is a warning to not pursue this
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Hermès Edition Owners Thread
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This still works for me with the 11.4 update. I don't use it all the time, just on occasions that I want the always on display to be noticeable. Plus, I don't want to take a chance of harming the display by leaving it all full brightness all the time. The setting also resets itself, at least for me, every time I charge my watch overnight, so I have to repeat the process if I want to enable it again for the day.
Yeah same here - as I said in my other post, I usually just use it along with the Circulaire face. It resets anytime I charge it also. Thanks for answering my question @FTyler! Cheers
I treated myself to a Grand H for a retail therapy session.
I get it now.
The weight is lovely compared to the Apple Link Bracelet and it just feels so luxe.
I get it now.
The weight is lovely compared to the Apple Link Bracelet and it just feels so luxe.
Stunning color, Bleu Hydra, the pic unfortunately doesn’t do it justice.
I was kinda hoping they would stick to the En Mer Bleu Nuit and wouldn’t release new colors soon… I guess strap collecting is going to be an even more costly hobby now 😅😬
I was kinda hoping they would stick to the En Mer Bleu Nuit and wouldn’t release new colors soon… I guess strap collecting is going to be an even more costly hobby now 😅😬
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On a similar subject while we were addressing screens (and again I apologize if this was covered before in this thread somewhere) was anyone as disappointed as I was when I got the Hermes Series 10 and realized that a lot of the watch faces are not optimized for the new larger screen size? As in, some faces were not made bigger in proportion to the increased screen size. It's no issue on some faces (Hermes Lucky Horse looks fine, Hermes Circuit H in Style II looks like it's utilizing the full screen… I don't think Hermes Radial is using all of it but at least it’s close enough).
But, original Hermes face (the one where you can set roman numerals) and Hermes Circulaire (along with the non-Hermes Infograph face, and probably lots more that I just haven’t noticed because I don’t use them) appear smaller with all this empty black space around the edges and especially in the corners because they still maintain their dimensions that were set on a smaller watch.
Considering that iOS was designed to adjust to so many different sizes of iPhone screen, old and new, operating at the same time (I still have a mini!), I find it to be pretty lazy of Apple to not program watchOS in the same way. I use those faces a lot less now because I don’t like the way they look anymore - awkwardly small on a bigger screen.
Surely others have noticed this, although maybe it doesn’t bother you like it does me?
But, original Hermes face (the one where you can set roman numerals) and Hermes Circulaire (along with the non-Hermes Infograph face, and probably lots more that I just haven’t noticed because I don’t use them) appear smaller with all this empty black space around the edges and especially in the corners because they still maintain their dimensions that were set on a smaller watch.
Considering that iOS was designed to adjust to so many different sizes of iPhone screen, old and new, operating at the same time (I still have a mini!), I find it to be pretty lazy of Apple to not program watchOS in the same way. I use those faces a lot less now because I don’t like the way they look anymore - awkwardly small on a bigger screen.
Surely others have noticed this, although maybe it doesn’t bother you like it does me?
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While it’s true Apple starves the watchface development of attention (not updating the old faces with new AOD support, more bugs than Pixar’s 1998 slate), for better or worse they changed the aspect ratio of the display.
The main motif of all the faces is generally still a circle or the specific rectangle of classic Hermes faces. Making the faces more cinematic/panoramic I think would look even weirder than the new empty space to the left and right, which is still weird I agree.
I think it’s pretty intentional given that Flux, a face new to the new design, also leaves a pillarbox, maintaining one aspect ratio across old and new watches.
You are absolutely not alone. It has driven me crazy for months (to the point that I still haven't sold my S9 and still wear it occasionally). I think the Radial face is the only "traditional" Hermes watch face that looks right on the S10. Yes, Lucky Horse and Circuit H look fine too. But they full-screen graphic faces that would have looked very odd if they had not been stretched to the edges. The original Hermes and Circulaire faces are just not good for the reasons you describe. It's not quite as bad as the S0-S3 days, but it definitely gives the watch much more in common with the S4-S6 than the S7-S9. The S10 is such a strange watch and is for sure a regression over the S9 in some ways.
I don't think that's what @eeyore7 is getting at. It's not that the circular faces should be stretched horizontally to match the wider ratio. That would look awful. But, the faces could have been increased 12 px in both the horizontal and vertical directions (thus keeping the same aspect ratio as the S9) to take advantage of the larger screen. But Apple didn't do that. In fact, they barely increased the dial size at all on the S10, despite it having a larger screen (the diameter of the Circulaire dial is 380 px on the S9 and 382 px on the S10). Combined with the larger black bezels, it looks like the dial is now floating in a sea of black on the S10, which is a visual regression.
Screenshots for those of us that wait for used Hermes watches?
Maybe use the beton full bleed to show
Super quick and dirty based on Apple's official renders for the Noir Kilim. I'd say these accurately capture the issue though. It's a combination of the dial radius being effectively unchanged, the screen size being physically larger, and the black bezels being larger on the S10. I have some actual screenshots I can do a comparison with whenever I get a spare moment too.
Yeah since I got my S10 Alum I’ve wanted to discuss the bezels…what’s the deal with that
Well, we paid for a bigger screen. With that, we got bigger bezels instead of bigger watchfaces or bigger text. So buy an S10 or Ultra if you like big bezels. That's my take on the situation. 🤣
Don't buy a bigger Apple watch expecting to be able to read the screen any better...
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You‘re flogging a dead horse here, and you‘re absolutely wrong, too. After the initial confusion it has long been shown that the bezels of the S10 are just as big (or small) as on the S9, it‘s just that the metal part has become smaller and the glass part bigger. Of course you may still prefer the S9 look (I don‘t), but the overall bezel area did not actually get bigger.
And I don‘t know about the Hermès faces (because I don‘t have an Hermès S10), but all the regular faces (at least the ones I use) have definitely become bigger on the bigger screen and use the new screen to the fullest.
I think we have a terminology issue regarding the bezels. I agree that the metal part has gotten smaller and the glass area is bigger. This bigger black area is what many of us are referring to a bigger bezel. Regardless of terminology, I think most of us agree that the faces have NOT been expanded on the larger watches, and the black area around the face is now bigger.
Several folks have posted faces from older watches and the S10 and Ultra2. The faces are not being made to cover the larger screens. At one point, I had an older watch and an S10, and an Ultra in the house. The newer watches did not have bigger faces, nor bigger text.
I will continue to beat this dead horse with another dead horse. Don't buy a S10 or Ultra expecting to see your watch face or text any bigger than your old S7-S9.
I do not agree with this at all nor have I read a consensus in this regard, except maybe for Hermès faces?
Yes, and the metal bezel is smaller.
Link(s)?
When I got the S10, the bigger faces were absolutely immediately apparent to me. As for text, it’s probably not bigger but they use the space to display more of it.
Edit: or consider this watch face: all elements are (slightly, but clearly) bigger:
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Thanks for the reply. Interestingly, your 2 pictures prove and disprove my point. LOL
The first image shows the actual watch faces being the same size. As we discussed the surrounding metal has been reduced and the black border increased on the new watches. But the actual watch faces appear to be the same size.
Your second image does show that the weather app, displays one more line of text (or half a line) at the bottom of the screen. This is informative.
I guess we see differently. When I had the S9, s10, and Ultra on hand, I couldn't see any difference in the size of text, nor the size of the watch faces. I did notice the big black borders on the new watches though. I am fine with the big black borders on my black watch, but not so much on my silver color watches. I do notice the brighter screens on the newer watches, so I do appreciate that visual aspect.
You see a noticeable size difference with the new watches. That's great too.
Maybe the real discussion should be not weather there is a physical size difference, but weather any increased size is being used effectively. It looks like the weather app uses the space. Were the watch faces blown up to fill the space on bigger watches, or did they just add background color to fill the edges? The ultra has its own watch face that use the ultra space more effectively than older faces. Have the older watch faces been updated to take advantage of more room?
Anyway, thanks for the fun discussion.
Sorry, you misinterpreted that image. Of course in that image the S10 has been scaled down to have the same height as the S9, in order to be able to compare the bezels better. In reality, the S10 is 1 mm larger vertically, so the screen is also bigger; horizontally, the difference is even bigger (as the S10 gained 2 mm in that dimension and is more „square“).
FWIW, the S9 screen never seemed „too small“ to me and I got the S10 only because of the thinness (as it makes the S10 sit much nicer on the wrist than all prior Watches) and the lightness (titanium vs. steel).
I agree. The thinness of the S10 is very welcome. I could immediately feel a difference between the s9 and s10.
I hope they do something similar with the Ultra 3 this year. The glass on the Ultra is heavy and sit pretty far above the wrist. Making it thinner would be a great change.