It would only be reasonable to do it if they have a very lower power way to monitor for it all without being plugged in, and if there's some sort of voice recognition is built in so that it wouldn't just take any random person saying "Hey Siri" or even misinterpretations of something from TV or elsewhere that the phone interprets as "Hey Siri". Right now neither of those are a reality (yet), so it makes sense for it to be the way that it is.
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'Hey Siri' plugged in only?
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I compleatly understand this. It would have been nice if Apple would have modified the M8 to cover this. The M9 will probably do it but since I don't have my 6 yet I started the thread to be sure I wasn't missing something on my5S. Also have a friend who's Android does this so I thought I might be 'holding it wrong' since my 5S didn't do it. Just needed a confirmation on the 'plunged in only' mode.
No. It does not make sense. Don't compare to the cluster #### called Android and pretend that some dumb idea that destroys battery and has no practical purpose "makes sense".
It does not.
In the real world iOS and Android are comparable.
If implemented through the M chip 'Hey Siri' would have minimal effect on batt life like 'OK Google' has minimal effect on batt life for Android.
Hey Siri only works when the phone is charging.
OK Google works when the phone is charging or when the screen is on.
Without an audio co-processor, I don't think Apple will ever make Hey Siri work all the time (e.g. even when the phone is locked and not charging). That would reduce standby time too significantly.
But to add the option to enable it when the screen is on and not charging is not totally out of the question imo, as long as the user is informed of the battery life hit.
OK Google works when the phone is charging or when the screen is on.
Without an audio co-processor, I don't think Apple will ever make Hey Siri work all the time (e.g. even when the phone is locked and not charging). That would reduce standby time too significantly.
But to add the option to enable it when the screen is on and not charging is not totally out of the question imo, as long as the user is informed of the battery life hit.
I agree with you but the M Chip is specifically designed to handle/track motion. It wouldn't be efficient as a dedicated Audio-Chip like the Moto X.
No doubt Apple will add the dedicated Audio-Chip in the iPhone 6S or iPhone 7. I think for now they have to perfect "Hey Siri" as it's overly sensitive.
LOL. Thanks, I was yelling at my phone on the way to work today, trying to wake up the bitch!
You win the prize for most applicable post in the thread.
While I don't know much about chip design it's seems that monitoring the gyroscope and accelerometer for patters wouldn't be too dissimilar to monitoring the mic for patters. Could the M9 have this added curcutry into the design instead of needing a separate chip?Of course the point is moot since it's NA to the 6 and below.
Even if that were true, which its not, there still wouldn't be any reason for it.
While plugged in makes sense, as its a well thought out solution.
They actually have people who think about these things, and make decisions based on what makes the most sense. What they don't have are people with bad ideas that get their way just because they can perform some mental gymnastics to convince themselves (if only themselves) that it makes sense. Thankfully. For all of us.
LOL, I've already tried this in a room with 5-6 iPhones charging. "Hey Siri!" and all the phones lit up and went "ding!" Didn't even need to say it that loudly.
Now just imagine if some popular radio DJ with thousands of listeners did this. "Hey Siri! ... Text mom, I'm pregnant!"
Or a late-night talkshow host. It's only a matter of time. And it will be epic if they pull it off.
Fanboy much?
On my Note 3 I can say ''Ok Google'' without being plugged in. Hey siri is completely useless being plugged in. That usually means I'm at home. In bed.
I like using OK google when I just want to know what the closest restaurant is or need some really quick info.
Apple....needs to get it together. But they might be worrying about battery life.
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Bendability makes sense. 8.0.1 stopping cellular data makes sense. Who likes straight phones and phones that call?
Look, I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to see. But don't act like you can't use Siri at all when your iPhone's in your hand and not charging, just because Hey Siri doesn't work. Holding the home button still works!
Having Hey Siri work when it's plugged in and likely to be just out of reach is pretty handy. It's not subtracting any previously existing functionality.
So yeah, hopefully we'll see an expansion of Hey Siri soon... but in the meantime, enjoy this extra functionality.
I've used a Moto X. I'm still not happy. Sure it's a step forward, but I'm used to Apple LEAPING foward.
Are you saying Apple has never implemented an iPhone feature that was a bad idea or flawed in some way? Maps, passbook, news stand off the top of my head we're either poorly implemented or things that no one wanted. And let's just ignore the crpatastic first versions of the last two iterations of iOS.
Just because YOU personally would have no use for Hey Siri while you're out and about doesn't mean it's a bad idea. I could have used it on 4 different occasions this weekend alone.
Why not just make an option for it to be always on, bury it in the settings and create a warning when toggled on to prevent some dufus from activating it accidentally?
You can get a car charger and plug it in in the cigarette lighter (assuming you car has one) It's only 20$ on the Apple Store, or if you don't mind getting a cheap brand, then it's like 5$ at Walmart.
This. Having "Hey Siri" work when plugged in and not while out-and-about makes perfect sense to me. When I'm home, my devices are likely to be plugged in and charging, and more likely to be out of reach. That is not the case when I am away from home - my phone is right in my pocket (and who wants to be at a party or gathering and have your phone reacting to people talking?).
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Really? I know that unless you're a fanboy there were plenty of things wrong with those. Feel free to elaborate.
has anyone else had this problem where hey siri gets triggered way too sensitively?
I can't tell you the number of times I've been listening to the radio in the car only to have hey siri activate and start transcribing everything coming out of the speakers...
I can't tell you the number of times I've been listening to the radio in the car only to have hey siri activate and start transcribing everything coming out of the speakers...
I'm having the opposite problem. I wish it was just a hair more sensitive. I'm not a shouter and find myself having to elevate my voice a little.
What??? I'd rather not have a feature, than have it only work part of the time.
I'd hate to be lying on the floor, in cardiac arrest, looking up at my iPhone on the counter, thinking......'oh, if I only had plugged it in....'
I know that the only way you come to the conclusion that there was actually anything wrong with those things is reading about it on a forum. Not real world experience.
Somehow, magically, against all odds, I've used Maps and Passbook without problems. Since iOS 6 BETA, let alone initial launch.
I must be an anomaly...or perhaps....much more likely, the smallest of problems are over inflated on the internet, and people with no actual negative experience parrot what they've read, and pretend like something was actually wrong.
I wonder which it is...
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Don't be ridiculous.
To have Siri always listening while NOT plugged in would be a bad idea.
The fact that "Google does it" (not really, if you look at how its implemented) is the opposite of a reason to do something.