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I'll be bummed because my M1 will be last-get (and there's no way I can get a new one), but I'll be happy because the platform is improving. After years of stagnation in the Mac line it'll be good to see sustained iterative improvement again.
 
Finally a "mini pro"..... I'll be first in line if it truly is that. The current one is just not there and the Mac Pro is just too darn expensive.
 
Did everyone in this forum skip over the plexiglass detail?? Uhh as far as I’m aware, that’s never been done before on a Mac. What is THAT going to look like?
Yes, the first generation of Minis had a plexiglas top. Since the current Mini design with a full aluminum case seems to cause problems with Bluetooth reception. The bluetooth issue has been a problem with Minis for years. Some people have reported getting better Bluetooth by turning their Mini upside down. Having a plexiglas top might be a big improvement.
 
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But, but, Apple told me that (thanks to integrated memory) 8 or 16GB of RAM was more than enough and I'd never need any more! What do you mean I'm not allowed to downgrade my OS anymore?

- 2020-2021Mac buyers in two years when Mac OS "Pismo Beach" turns their Mac into a sluggish POS.
What are you talking about. I'm running Big Sur on a 2014 MBP and it's performing just fine. That 7 years old.
 
I think there will be yearly refreshes of every Mac now that Apple doesn't have to work to Intel's timeline. I suspect Apple will update M-series chips every year just like they do A-series. And Apple will put those new M chips into every Mac. While every Mac won't see design changes every year, they will see chip spec-bumps to encourage people to upgrade their Macs more frequently.
That right there. ☝️

This fan base will definitely upgrade their Macs every cycle. Peeps here tend to like the latest/greatest. Could make for a robust resell scenario (say that five tunes fast).

Or… This might be the way an iUP for other hardware begins to make sense. MUP - Mac Upgrade Program. Personally, I’d immediately enroll in a WUP to keep the latest Watch on-wrist.
 
Why does Apple want to turn its 'entry level' Mac into a high end one?

Also remember not everyone needs an iMac as some of us own LG 5K screens. I don't really need the power of a Mac Pro - or the size of the machine - so a Mac Mini is perfect.

My only issue is, no doubt people forgot that the iMac was limited to 16GB of on-board RAM. No doubt this Mac Mini will, too. Almost guaranteed.
 
My only issue is, no doubt people forgot that the iMac was limited to 16GB of on-board RAM. No doubt this Mac Mini will, too. Almost guaranteed.
M1 is limited to 0GB on-board ram, because the ram is on package.

It was expected that the next generation would double the ram and display output limits, but it is unclear whether that would be called "M1X" or "M2".
 
Since i dont know exactly what will be in an updated mac mini, i cant say much but i dont see the issue.

I for one dont like 2in1 devices like imac sure its space saving, but i much prefer to have the computer and screen separated.
 
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i find it slightly odd that we might get an M1X rather than an M2 based on the A15? Or are they going to slow down the cycle and do the M2 from the A16?
 
My wallet is ready !! That will be my dev/music production set. What version would you choose? I'm thinking in 64G for sure and 1T/2T depending if that can fit my budget (3.5k)
 
Did everyone in this forum skip over the plexiglass detail?? Uhh as far as I’m aware, that’s never been done before on a Mac. What is THAT going to look like?
Besides the early Mac minis, the iMac G5 and early Intel iMacs had plexiglass or something similar. I like this better than the newer aluminum ones, which look kinda try-hard.
IMac_G5_Rev._A_front.jpg

Though the fat keyboard here is dated.
 
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"Additional ports" lol. Thats how you know it's fake. If apple could ditch everything down to a single USB-C port they would (and have done so in the past). Apple used to be good for I/O now they are utter garbage. The poster child for form-over-function. Forcing you do by premium dongles.
 
"Additional ports" lol. Thats how you know it's fake. If apple could ditch everything down to a single USB-C port they would (and have done so in the past). Apple used to be good for I/O now they are utter garbage. The poster child for form-over-function. Forcing you do by premium dongles.
Used to be? They were almost always a pain. Like, their only laptops ever to have regular video output were the 2012-2015 retina MBPs, with HDMI. Other than that, it was always something dumb like mini DP, mini DVI, whatever. Even on the iMacs a lot of the time.
 
Now this could be very interesting for me. If it's more powerful then the new iMac and on par with the new Macbook Pro's.
One to keep an eye on for sure.
 
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I love my current M1 (for development), but limited memory is an issue. A M1X with more memory would be very welcome.
 
Used to be? They were almost always a pain. Like, their only laptops ever to have regular video output were the 2012-2015 retina MBPs, with HDMI. Other than that, it was always something dumb like mini DP, mini DVI, whatever. Even on the iMacs a lot of the time.
I was offering an olive branch :p Yes, they were better in the past if we only consider older mac models as a reference. But far worse if we include your basic crappy run-of-the-mill laptop from literally anybody else. I/O shouldnt be a hard hurdle to jump over, but like the fact kid at special-ed sports in highschool. Apple continually steam rolls over that hurdle and face-plants ever year.
 
Apple liked How they could charge over a grand for intel minis so they want to do the same thing with the m1. Otherwise they would have to update the cheaper model to m1x and that’s too much of a bargain. Now they can keep the low end perpetually stuck with the same m1 for years and mostly update the more expensive one a year behind the iMacs. If m1x is coming to 30in iMacs then the faster mini will probably be over twice as expensive as the base model m1 mini. Otherwise it would eat into m1 iMac sales. But if they update all imacs to m1x and kept prices the same then it would be another huge deal like the m1 was when it came in at good price points.
I have M1 mini and it does all it needs to do at very reasonable cost. Mac Mini M1 is indeed a great budget offering and I hope that it will be continued for some time.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong but Mac Mini has always been configured on lower end and high end. The higher end Intel version is still available and that will be replaced with Apple M silicone.
Yes, there were (and probably are) different versions available, mainly on Intel side.
 
i find it slightly odd that we might get an M1X rather than an M2 based on the A15? Or are they going to slow down the cycle and do the M2 from the A16?
Probably in analogy with iPhones, M1 chips (as A chips) may have biannual revision speed, so the first year revision is M1X, second year is M2 etc. In addition, probably the Mac Pro chips may be of different family altogether, maybe with coupled with faster or powerful GPU; unlike M1 which is only different by GPU cores' number; therefore, MacPro may use not M1 but S1 etc, (like T1/T2 in intel macs).
 
I don't know if direct downgrades were possible, but the same result could be easily achieved with a workaround. My 2011 MacBook Pro came with Lion (10.7). I didn't like it, so I put Snow Leopard (10.6) on it. It was really simple. I'd been using Carbon Copy Cloner to backup my last MBP (2008), which was running 10.6, so I just put that clone onto my 2011 MBP. It ran without issue.

I also know of a production company that ran into numerous problems with Catalina on their new Mac Pros, and managed to figure out how to downgrade to Mojave, but the process was quite involved.

So it seems downgrading can be done with workarounds, but the process has gone from being very easy to very hard.
why would anyone to downgrade. Very few reasons to actually downgrade
 
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