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No, don't you all see? The new M1 Mac Mini is going to be made so thin and small, it will undergo a name change as well... it will be called, the M1X Mac Nano! 😆
 
A build your own iMac with a high-end Mini at its core would be terrific.

Give us 32mb ram, a good enough video chipset for Photoshop & iMovie, choose your own SSD, choose your own monitor, keyboard and mouse. And voila lots of happy Mac users who don't have to compromise on an iMac's limited menu.

Don't cater to the gamer, cater to the creative power user who doesn't need Mac Pro kinda juice.
What’s in the current chip that makes it inadequate to run iMovie in your opinion? FCP runs buttery smooth.
 
I don't think Apple really considers the Mac Mini to be their "entry-level Mac" even if it is priced like one. Their entry-level Mac is the base iMac. I think Mac Mini is really more their server product and Amazon is buying up a ton of them for their in the cloud Mac OS service, that's why they introduced 10 gig ethernet to the Mac mini as well for servers.
 
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I don't think Apple really considers the Mac Mini to be their "entry-level Mac" even if it is priced like one. Their entry-level Mac is the base iMac. I think Mac Mini is really more their server product and Amazon is buying up a ton of them for their in the cloud Mac OS service, that's why they introduced 10 gig ethernet to the Mac mini as well for servers.
As I see it, all m1 macs are the entry level, just in different form factors.

We’ll have to wait for the rest of the line to transition in order to have a clearer picture, though.
 
i find it slightly odd that we might get an M1X rather than an M2 based on the A15? Or are they going to slow down the cycle and do the M2 from the A16?

(NB: There's no point placing too much weight on what the chip will be called - ultimately, the M2 is whatever chip Apple decides to stick an "M2" label on, or they might still decide to create a separate "branding" for the "Apple Silicon Pro" chips. However, taking the usual understanding that "M1X" is the "pro" version of the M1, whereas "M2" is the next generation of core designs...)

Last I looked, the M2 is expected to debut in the all-new MacBook Air sometime next year whereas the M1X was expected to debut in the 14/16" MacBook imminently (...and may have been held up by component shortages).

When it does arrive, the M2 in the 2022 MacBook Air will, like the M1, be configured primarily for ultrabooks and tablets in terms of number of cores, balance of performance/economy cores/GPU cores, clock speeds etc. and may well have similar limitations on RAM and display support to the M1 - which is perfectly sensible for the target market of 'general computing'. It's likely to be all-round incrementally faster and more power-efficient than the base M1 - maybe 15%.

The M1X, on the other hand, is going to be the M1 souped up for higher-end applications (which in Apple terms usually means graphics, video and audio production). Exactly how depends on which rumours you read* - but a significantly souped up GPU (probably too power hungry for Air/iPad use) is most likely, also supporting more displays, maybe with double the number of cores, probably at least 12 CPU cores, maybe with a higher performance:economy core ratio etc... They'll also have support more than 2 LPDDR4 chips worth of RAM to be credible. For the applications in question - which typically support multi-threading and GPU-accelerated computing - the benefits of the "X" could be far more significant than the relatively small across-the board improvement of M2 over M1.

So, really the 14/16" MBP, 5k+ iMac and high-end Mac Mini couldn't just wait for the M2 say, early next year, they'd need some sort of "M2X" which is probably a lot further down the pipeline.

(* Of course, Apple are not infallible, and the M1X could turn out to be a pathetic warmed-over version of the M1 that doesn't meet the needs of higher-end users, but we can burn that bridge when we come to it...)
 
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I think the Apple Silicon Macs will hold their resale value well, just like iPhones. Upgrading every 2 years when the new chip is released might make more financial sense, instead of buying an over-specified machine/future-proofing?
 
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Because Apple started defining ‘Pro’ machines as having 1 port so now ‘high end’ just means ‘practical’
I run my entire studio setup including outboard gear on a Mac Mini M1. It can handle more audio channels than my 12-core Mac Pro could. I thought the 2 TB ports would be a problem, but I've got multiple Thunderbolt 3 devices daisy chained and it works absolutely fine. Never have I had a kernel crash related to the IO I'm running, unlike the daily T2-chip drama on my previous 2018 i7 Mac Mini. (glad I got rid of that piece of ****)

So no, the 2020 Mac Mini is practical, and it does meet my ''Pro'' needs.
 
This is not replacing the M1 mini but it’s replacing the i5/i7 mini. The mini has had 3 variants since 2018:

Mac mini i3 —> M1
Mac mini i5/i7 —> M1X

Apple came out with a “high-end” mini in 2018 and this is the replacement for that. The M1 will still be sold alongside the M1X variant. Just how the i3/i5/i7 were all sold alongside each other.
The i3 mini was a joke they overcharged for considering the mini stated at $499 when it debuted.
the i7 was good when it was well below a $1,000 when it first came out. The only reason apple has those price points is because it can. The components of a mini are identical yet can go from $699 to over a thousand because of the price of hard drive and ram apple charges. Redesigning their computers was something they used to do for free all the time but after the iPhones came out they started calling them new names and charging more for them instead. We will soon find out if m1x will be the $1,000-$2,000 chip or if it will go in ANY sub $1,000 computer at all. Apple likes to have their tiers and m1x is just middle of the road. They haven’t come out with their $3k and $6k and above chips yet.
 
Who said anything about "turning into"? They are just adding a higher-end version, not getting rid of the lower-end version. What's not to like about that? More choice is always better.



Why bizarre? If you can still buy the low-end M1 Mac Mini, what harm does it do if there is also a higher-end Mac Mini version? They aren't "boosting the cost", just adding another version. It's the same as before when there were different Intel configurations.
As I recall, Apple has always had several "levels" of its machines. Two processor choices two or more graphics choice, storage choices, memory choices, etc.
Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya choice.
 
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What Mac mini with Apple Sillicon misses to make it suitable more for Pro users is a support for eGPU. But it seems like Apple is killing it definitely with their processors…
 
Makes perfect sense if the "pro" Apple Silicon is ready to go - roll it out to the MBP and a more powerful Mac mini. I wonder if there will be a larger iMac too? Its been quiet on that front.
 
Apple didn't offer a distinct higher end Mac Mini line. They had various configuration options of the same model. Some ready made with better options. They were still on the same motherboard and layout. Therefore the same model. They're all even called the Macmini8,1. It would be like considering $1,799 and $2,299 27" iMac different models instead of different options of the same model.

Apple simply discontinued the base config. Normally in the past when they dump the base config but keep the higher config available. They drop the price of that config to base. This time they didn't.

With 13" Intel MacBook Pros they offered two distinct models. Along with other lines offering distinct models. Even the 21.5" iMac had different model designations for the 1080p and 4K models.

While Apple's free to do what they want. I'd consider the M1X a distinct new line. If they're going to offer two different models going forward. Sort of a Mac Mini and Mac Mini Pro. With either the M1 or M1X being the actual replacement for the Intel model. Then we'll just have to wait and see if they'll continue with M2 + M2X lines or shift the M1X price down and offering an M2 at the higher price point.
Ummmm sorry? I do believe an i7 is higher end than an i3.....

And 64GB if RAM is higher end than 16GB.....

So yes, Apple did offer a higher end Mac mini. Which the M1 does not replace.
 
After the WWDC nothing-burger, I'll believe it when Apple announces it. I'll get by with my M1 mini and Windows desktop until the M1X stuff comes out. I'd be fine with a large iMac or an M1X mini. If the M1X mini isn't enough, then I'll use the M1X mini along with the M1 mini. I'm pretty sure that the M1X mini with 32 GB or 64 GB of RAM will be enough and I can give my M1 to my wife to replace her 2018 mini i3.
I am glad nothing much happened at WWDC this year. Hopefully that means the next operating systems on all products will be more stable than their track record the last few years have been.
 
Yeah Apple is going the mess with pros that are waiting for a powerfull ARM Mac but don't want to pay 3000$ for a macbook M1X by realising the Mac Mini "Pro" in 2022
 
I'm looking at the Synology stuff now. interesting how far they have come.
When I last looked at Synology, they did not have DAS (Direct Attached Storage) like QNAP and Drobo. Has this changed? The USB ports on my NAS are only for external drives and things NOT to connect to a computer unfortunately.
 
I could really go for a mini refresh. Wife and I realize we need to get all our photo libraries out of Aperture soon before our old macs start dying. I would have been happy with the M1, but something stronger sounds even better.
 
I felt that the Mac Mini was a dying breed when you can pick up a MacBook Air that has a lot of oomph, but seems many consumers are really into the Mac Mini because of the affordability, power, and ability to just plug things in without having to have dongles!

Now, with the upgraded processor as an option with more ports, this little machine is certainly a power house! Apple seems to understand this market very well and willing to give it what it needs.
 
I felt that the Mac Mini was a dying breed when you can pick up a MacBook Air that has a lot of oomph, but seems many consumers are really into the Mac Mini because of the affordability, power, and ability to just plug things in without having to have dongles!

Now, with the upgraded processor as an option with more ports, this little machine is certainly a power house! Apple seems to understand this market very well and willing to give it what it needs.
Depending on the pricing I think I might pick up an M1X Mac Mini plus an M1 MacBook Air for the price of a 16”MBP.
 
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