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Doubt it. Apple won't sell it for a dime under 450 for a 16 gb model. Take a look at the iPad mini. It costs 100 bucks more than what most 7 inch android models cost.

It's also larger than 7 inch android models, .9" diagonally and it's a 4:3 resolution so more surface area even at 7 inches.
 
I don't understand this move... Ugly, and with the plastic case seems a phone from few years ago... Apple isn't supposed to be innovative?
 
Reminds me of the simple style and curves of the first polycarbonate MacBooks - very nice indeed. I'll definitely snap one up in the blink of an eye, no discussion.
 
This device will be sold for 450$ instead of the iPhone 4S - the "dirty trick" will be that people will get the much better 4" (not because of size but because of picture quality) screen for 'free'.

I don't believe for a moment that if they were inserting 4S components into a new device that has a 4" screen and lightening connector they'd build an entirely new chassis in which to put it, made out of different materials. I do believe it's possible they'll release a new device, but if they want to offer an entry level iPhone, they can merely release an 8GB iPhone 5 (or 16GB and have the iPhone 5S only come in 32/64/128 GB options) and release that alongside the iPhone 5S - why go to the expense of creating a new chassis? A whole new case doesn't make sense, unless it's going to have different functionality (think somewhere between iPod Touch and iPhone in functionality and price).
 
Finally! We all wrap out phones in plastic cases anyway. So at the end of the day, that beautiful anodized casing of the 5 gets hidden all day.

I would really like them to make an iPhone with an easy to change exterior.
 
When we hold the budget iPhone in our hands, the plastic chassis does not feel cheap at all. Unlike the plastic build quality of the Samsung Galaxy phones, the plastic material used on the budget iPhone feels more sturdy.

Regardless, it looks cheap, unlike the 3G/3GS which only felt cheap in the hand but didn't look that way.
 
He made a plastic Mac Pro so maybe he's weening himself of aluminum..?

Nope, the new Mac Pro has a machined aluminum enclosure.
 

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I don't believe for a moment that if they were inserting 4S components into a new device that has a 4" screen and lightening connector they'd build an entirely new chassis in which to put it, made out of different materials. I do believe it's possible they'll release a new device, but if they want to offer an entry level iPhone, they can merely release an 8GB iPhone 5 (or 16GB and have the iPhone 5S only come in 32/64/128 GB options) and release that alongside the iPhone 5S - why go to the expense of creating a new chassis? A whole new case doesn't make sense, unless it's going to have different functionality (think somewhere between iPod Touch and iPhone in functionality and price).

The iPhone 5 is more expensive to manufacture (Cameras to match the glass inserts, Scuffgate etc...) and i doubt that they would sell such an expensive to manufacture device for 450$ in 2014 - so they will release plastic-case versions of older devices in the future - and they start NOW, because of the larger screen and Lightning.
 
Regardless, it looks cheap, unlike the 3G/3GS which only felt cheap in the hand but didn't look that way.

This is a rumour mill... and the grain is not yet flour, and hasn't risen to a finished loaf, yet.

In other words... nobody knows, and nobody has yet held one. It may _look_ cheap, but so what?
 
The cheaper iphone will become the most sold smartphone ever worldwide. Without a doubt.

I very very much doubt this.

So 1 new model, will outsell the entire catalog of all android/windows phones combined.

Ummm, no.
 
Finally! We all wrap out phones in plastic cases anyway. So at the end of the day, that beautiful anodized casing of the 5 gets hidden all day.

I would really like them to make an iPhone with an easy to change exterior.

This is similar to what I suggested in the iPhone accessories forum: that Apple might want to design a case to match the aesthetic of each of its its iPhones. Exterior case damaged? Just throw a new one on. Choose your color, change when you feel like it.

Nobody liked the idea though. Oh well.
 
The iPhone 5 is more expensive to manufacture (Cameras to match the glass inserts, Scuffgate etc...) and i doubt that they would sell such an expensive to manufacture device for 450$ in 2014 - so they will release plastic-case versions of older devices in the future - and they start NOW, because of the larger screen and Lightning.

Putting aside the whole issue of cost and investment of producing an entirely new enclosure (which isn't peanuts) and I know that unless you work in Apple pricing you don't know what the heck you're talking about (i.e. 450$ -> that was pulled from rumors and isn't real), why would they do this, when we all already expect they'll keep this enclosure for the new iPhone 5S?

Let me explain: They just released a new iPod Touch, an entry level, but they didn't create a new enclosure, but you believe they will with this new iPhone version? Why with one product and not the other? You must know that Chewbacca does not live on Endor, so the assertion that Apple is building an entirely new chassis for an entry level phone just does not make sense!

What other differences would you expect in this new phone aside from materials?

My main question, though to you and everyone else that insists this is a cheaper iPhone: how will Apple differentiate these two iPhones? It won't be on price, because history tells us: 1) they never call an iPod Shuffle, the cheap iPod Classic; the Mac mini, the less expensive iMac; or the iPad mini, an iPad for poor people. They differentiate these products based on features and functionality. So, this new iPhone with an entirely new chassis will be different from the iPhone 5S in what ways? (without thinking of price)

We can make assumptions about its features and functionality - retina screen running iOS 7 (4" screen in a world where Apple hates fragmentation), so that pretty much means every app in the App Store today that runs on the iPhone and iPod Touch will work on this device. Reduced storage? That is possible, but a new chassis for this? Two iPhones sitting side by side on a shelf, one is running iOS 7, the other is running iOS 7, but can pretty much do the same things but has a plastic case (and "cool/hip" colours) and costs much cheaper (bonus!), which one does the average consumer buy? Which one does Apple want them to buy? Why would Apple give its prospective customers a cheaper option (which means less profit) meaning an incentive to buy the product they don't want them to buy?

Apple doesn't market it products on a "price scale" - it doesn't view its products (or promote them to the world) in this way, but for some reason people here do. My question is this: what do people here know that they don't?
 
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I very very much doubt this.

So 1 new model, will outsell the entire catalog of all android/windows phones combined.

Ummm, no.

It will outsell any one model of smartphones. It will outsell the iPhone 5S. It will out sell the Samsung GS4. It will outsell the HTC One. Not all of them combined, but all of them individually. It will become the most sold model of phone, not more than all other phones combined.
 
It will outsell any one model of smartphones. It will outsell the iPhone 5S. It will out sell the Samsung GS4. It will outsell the HTC One. Not all of them combined, but all of them individually. It will become the most sold model of phone, not more than all other phones combined.

Does anyone see this situation with multicolor iPhone to be analogous to iPod mini? I remember when the mini was all the rage 8 or so years ago. Did it outsell the larger black or white iPods?
 
Is the display assembly also plastic??? I think that would be disastrous.

No. The display is made of silicone rubber, and stretches when you touch it - did noone tell you? ;)

Why would the display be plastic? Are the screws plastic too? What do you think?
 
(i.e. 450$ -> that was pulled from rumors and isn't real)



My main question, though to you and everyone else that insists this is a cheaper iPhone: how will Apple differentiate these two iPhones?

The 450$ figure is not pulled from any rumors and I never stated that this would be a cheaper iPhone, I said this won't be cheaper but it will replace the iPhone 4S, due to screen size differences/Lightning etc...

The price point of 450$ is pulled from... Apple.com!

Apple is selling the most recent iPhone for 649$, the iPhone that was released before the recent one for 549$ and the iPhone from two years ago for 450$.

Now, the 2 generations old iPhone is the iPhone 4, they sell it for .... 450!!!! Dollars.

But in 2-3 months, the next iPhone will be released and they will drop the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S will be the 2 generations old iPhone.

They would sell it - like they did in the past with models at that point - for 450$.

But the iPhone 4S is using outdated connectors and if you may say so, an outdated screen size - so they'll sell a new device instead that will be based on the iPhone 4S (which in this case means it will use an A5 SoC) using the new connector and a display that will lead to less fragmentation.

The plastic case iPhone won't be cheaper, but instead will probably have a higher margin and selling it for 450$ is not based on rumors (rumors would say they will sell it for 299$^^) but based on what the iPhone 4 costs now and the 3GS cost last year.


Sure, Apple will have to buy new machines to manufacture the case - but they keep selling so many of their lower priced models that the cost of manufacturing equipment will probably be earned from the sales of the weekend the new plastic case iPhone is released.
 
The 450$ figure is not pulled from any rumors and I never stated that this would be a cheaper iPhone, I said this won't be cheaper but it will replace the iPhone 4S, due to screen size differences/Lightning etc...

The price point of 450$ is pulled from... Apple.com!

Apple is selling the most recent iPhone for 649$, the iPhone that was released before the recent one for 549$ and the iPhone from two years ago for 450$.

Now, the 2 generations old iPhone is the iPhone 4, they sell it for .... 450!!!! Dollars.

But in 2-3 months, the next iPhone will be released and they will drop the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S will be the 2 generations old iPhone.

They would sell it - like they did in the past with models at that point - for 450$.

But the iPhone 4S is using outdated connectors and if you may say so, an outdated screen size - so they'll sell a new device instead that will be based on the iPhone 4S (which in this case means it will use an A5 SoC) using the new connector and a display that will lead to less fragmentation.

The plastic case iPhone won't be cheaper, but instead will probably have a higher margin and selling it for 450$ is not based on rumors (rumors would say they will sell it for 299$^^) but based on what the iPhone 4 costs now and the 3GS cost last year.

Sure, Apple will have to buy new machines to manufacture the case - but they keep selling so many of their lower priced models that the cost of manufacturing equipment will probably be earned from the sales of the weekend the new plastic case iPhone is released.

Regardless what price you attach or how you deduced the number, the price didn't come from Apple and it is your assumption, but that's not even the main point I was making.

You suggest the new casing is cheaper (by how much? enough to warrant a new design and product?), and you say they'll recoup the price in the first weekend. If that's true, what has Apple done effectively at that point?

What I mean is, assuming you are correct and they redesign and manufacture an entirely new chassis for an *entry level* phone (which isn't their focus, which isn't their intention to sell (mainly), which isn't something they would prefer to produce, market or sell but provides continuity in some way from upgrade to upgrade) and announce and release it alongside their (purportedly) new iPhone 5S. With this rumoured entry level version which has a retina 4" screen (same as 5S), runs the latest software (same as 5S), runs Siri (same as 5S), has a lightening connector (same as 5S), has cool new colours (which iPhone hasn't ever had) but costs much less, Apple has effectively gone to price war with itself. Their marketing campaign: Buy the expensive iPhone 5S or the cheaper iPhone "low cost" - same phone, different prices (though the cheaper one with all the colour options is plastic)?

The iPhone is a premium product and commands a premium price. Apple will not do anything to mess with the perceived value of the iPhone. Selling older versions at the same time as the new (& current) version of the iPhone isn't the same as releasing a new cheaper (different casing but same in functionality) iPhone - they will not sell two versions of the same product at two different price points, they will not go to price-war with themselves. Once they promote the idea in anyone's mind that the iPhone is cheaper than the iPhone, the value will erode and people (the ones who aren't pretentious or spec twits) will associate the lower price of this new iPhone with the cost of Apple's iPhone and they will be unable to sell an iPhone at the higher price. People don't buy based on materials and they don't buy (as some here seem to think) based on chips and RAM and techie specs.
 
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The video looked like a spin off for a car add ...

i also released there is no cut out for the SIM holder, only a pin hole ...... Either early stages, or what ...
 
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