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To clarify... was your phone £150 unlocked?

If not... please refer to the unlocked price before you make any comparisons :)

Of course there are plenty of high-end phones from other companies.

My point was that high-end Android phones don't make up the bulk of Android phone sales. There were 162 million Android phones sold last quarter... how many of them were of the flagship variety? Not many.

In other words... the budget Android phones rule the roost.

You were saying Apple is losing market share and other companies are beating them. Looking strictly at unit sales... and what we know about Android phone pricing... that is true.

But Android is made of dozens of manufacturers and hundreds of models for sale today... does it really surprise you that they outsell Apple?

Now let's look at Android phones that are $450-and-up to see how they compare to Apple.

It sure was. Started with a 620 just to check out Windows, liked it so much I sold the iPhone 5S and upgraded to an unlocked, new, 820 for £147! Also have an S4 work phone ... Both make the iPhone 5 look dull as dishwater and as small as a dwarfs walkie talkie!
 
A5 isn't too old.

There are no apps that phase it in the 4S. It's actually the perfect candidate, a further die shrink could also really bring the power/heat down. I think we've seen an experiment in that with the tweaked AppleTV3 back in the spring?

In September, new proposed lineup?
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I agree plastic, 5, 5s.

The A5 is from march 2010, which seems very old now. I too think that it's fine now, and if it is that cheap I think people wont care.

If its replacing the 4s (which is what it will do) then I might even see more people buy this over a 99$ 5 because of the colours!!!
 
Sure it's not. There's the market of every iPhone buyer, which seems to think that the 64GB iPhone should cost MORE than the 16GB iPhone, not the same or less :rolleyes:

Higher cost doesn't mean better. It means people understand they have to pay more for bigger storage.

Sodas come in several different sizes, and cost more as the sizes go up. That doesn't make the soda better, there is just more of it. Just like the iPhone is just as good at every storage capacity, there's just more storage.

But whatever, clearly you just want to argue.
 
I agree plastic, 5, 5s.

The A5 is from march 2010, which seems very old now. I too think that it's fine now, and if it is that cheap I think people wont care.

If its replacing the 4s (which is what it will do) then I might even see more people buy this over a 99$ 5 because of the colours!!!

March 2011.
 
I think you are right.

Some readers believe that the cheap iphone should not exist (snob) or look as good as the top of the range iphone 5s (foolish).

That is a great phone for people who cant afford the better one...

Whats is wrong with it?

All the games on the app store are becoming freemium because of cheap people. Apps are becoming free and bloated with ads to accommodate with people who rather get it for free.
 
Higher cost doesn't mean better. It means people understand they have to pay more for bigger storage.

Sodas come in several different sizes, and cost more as the sizes go up. That doesn't make the soda better, there is just more of it. Just like the iPhone is just as good at every storage capacity, there's just more storage.

But whatever, clearly you just want to argue.

A bigger soda is better because you get more, except it's heavier. The bigger capacity iPhone is not heavier; it just has better specs, just like that iPhone 5 you claimed was objectively "better" than the 4S or low-end iPhone. You're arguing against yourself.
 
A bigger soda is better because you get more, except it's heavier. The bigger capacity iPhone is not heavier; it just has better specs, just like that iPhone 5 you claimed was objectively "better" than the 4S or low-end iPhone. You're arguing against yourself.

Ok man, you're clearly in your own world her. Go ahead and take it, you clearly need a "win."
 
To all those saying that the coloured iPhones look "cheap" and "childish", I say this... you must have VERY, VERY dull, drab and boring lives if you feel that colour detracts from a product's appeal factor. Colour works well - mind you, you could always sell your TV and go back to watching 1930's episodes of "Laurel and Hardy" if you prefer de-saturated visuals...

It's NOT the phone colours are too much, it's that YOU ARE BORING!! :D

Oh, and vivid neon colours seem to work pretty well for these guys, too...

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Remind me again, how much of a terrible flop the coloured iMac was, as I seem to have forgotten:

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It makes perfect sense in Apple's case.

The current older models are the iPhone 4 & 4S. Neither feature LTE, which is now a smartphone standard feature in the US. The carriers want it included and it's no longer a premium component. The older models also carry the old 30 pin dock connector, which isn't used on any other Apple products. Continuing to support that hardware only serves to give consumers an incentive to not upgrade to newer models of other Apple products. Additionally, they feature 3:2 ratio displays, iPhone 5 and the 5th gen iPod touch both feature 16:9 displays.

I could see Apple killing off the 4 & 4S for the above reasons and replacing them both with this new model. It could be offered free with contract or maybe a middle ground price like $50. I'd imagine it'll feature iPhone 5 components inside. Then they can release an iPhone 5S model alongside it with a nicer camera, a few new features and an A7 processor. By offering this model in candy colors it'll appeal to kids (whose parents are currently buying them old model iPhones, cheap Android phones or hand-me-down iPhones) but not adults. Adults will prefer the more mature looking iPhone 5/5S/6/whatever they call it.

Kids will love this. Parents will love that it's reasonably priced. Apple will love that the entire family gets further embedded in Apple's ecosystem. While it's not the high-end super phone that everyone might drool over, it's a very smart move on Apple's part.
I had the same thought and post it in Huffingtonpost:
"These may be true for kids. If your whole family are using iPhones, you wouldn't want to give your kids expensive ones, but these budget iPhones since most of the stuffs they do is: Facebook, Tweeter, Instagram, Picture, Facetime/Skype, Text and Calls. Now, it all makes sense to release these lower spec colorful iPhones, first for those who can't afford the high end ones, second for kids. The market for teenagers is huge. For the price, it should be less than $400 and free with contract. So for a family of 4, 2 high end iPhones at $199 each for adults and 2 cheap iPhones for kids at $0 with contract."

"Also, with this release of cheap iPhone, I can see also a high end iPhone (5s/6) to be released at the same time and the price of iPhone 5 will be slashed for $100. So, $199, $99 and $0 with contract for iPhone 5s/6, iPhone 5 and cheap iPhone. Discontinue 4/4s completely due to the lawsuit lately with Samsung."
 
To all those saying that the coloured iPhones look "cheap" and "childish", I say this... you must have VERY, VERY dull, drab and boring lives if you feel that colour detracts from a product's appeal factor..

Remind me again, how much of a terrible flop the coloured iMac was, as I seem to have forgotten:

The problem isn't that the iPhones are colourful - Apple have been making colourful products for a while - It's the specific colours they have used that's the problem.

The iMac colours were gorgeous, most of the iPod colours were gorgeous as well. The colours used here though are florescent (Day-Glo), that's the difference. It's so bright that almost looks like it is glowing. Traditionally these Day-Glo colours are associated with dodgy 90's raves, as well as very cheap tacky products and children's toys.

The difference between bright and florescent may not seem a big one to you, but Apple are usually known for their attention to detail and their timeless sense of style. Unfortunately this seems to have gone out of the window with this generation of products. To us designers it's almost as bad as if they have adopted Comic Sans as their corporate typeface. :(
 
The iMac colours were gorgeous, most of the iPod colours were gorgeous as well. The colours used here though are florescent (Day-Glo), that's the difference. It's so bright that almost looks like it is glowing.

That's exactly the opposite of what I remember. The iMacs and iPods were criticized for having colors that were too bright and fluorescent, just like now, as was the early OSX. Yes folks, Steve Jobs did it all and he changed his mind all the time.
 
That's exactly the opposite of what I remember. The iMacs and iPods were criticized for having colors that were too bright and fluorescent, just like now, as was the early OSX. Yes folks, Steve Jobs did it all and he changed his mind all the time.

The iMacs weren't really florescent, just quite saturated. The fact that they were transparent and the colour was combined with large areas of white toned them down a lot. Also they were products of their time, it was the 90's when people's tastes weren't as refined as they are now. The 80's had only just finished where taste went right out the window.

As much as most people still have affection for the old iMacs they don't look anywhere near as slick, stylish and futuristic as the new aluminium and glass designs. The old iMac was a big jump from ugly beige boxes, but Apple can't repeat that sort of innovation now, as Nokia brought out almost-day-glo phones a while back, so this just looks like Apple trying to play catch-up, but failing.

A lot of people, myself included, prefer stylish Apple to 'down-with-the-kids' Apple...

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This just looks like one hell of a downgrade, even for a budget phone...

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Even the 4 year old 3gs looks considerably better than these new ones...

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A lot of people, myself included, prefer stylish Apple to 'down-with-the-kids' Apple...

Apple has always been "down-with-the-kids" through their iPod range.Plus the iPhone 5 isn't going anywhere if you prefer that style. If you hate this color style, this isn't meant for you.

Even the 4 year old 3gs looks considerably better than these new ones...

You're comparing blurry "leak" pictures to well-lit glamour pictures, obviously one will look better than the other. The new phone will easily make the old 3GS look outdated when seen in person.
 
It's unfortunate that this is our first look at them, considering that anything photographed under these conditions look like crap (iPhone 5 anyone?) I'm sure that they will show much better in the right light.
 
You're comparing blurry "leak" pictures to well-lit glamour pictures, obviously one will look better than the other. The new phone will easily make the old 3GS look outdated when seen in person.

A blurry picture can't change the colour or the shape.

Look I'd love to be proved wrong, I'm just concerned Mr Ive has lost his touch. It's a bit like how brilliant rock bands release a few amazing albums and then inexplicably come up with some terrible electro-rap abomination.

I still can't believe Apple let the iOS7 icons get through. If they can approve that, they can approve iPhones in new retina burning Disney princess rainbow fairy colours, with a added chunkiness for easy grip by children age 3 - 6. :eek:
 
Someone must have sold it for a loss ;)

That phone's price was cut by 60% after only 7 months on the market... does that normally happen to mid-range Nokia phones?

The current Nokia range is IMO decent kit and great quality. Whatever OS it carries. Even better are the prices; or on eBay. Check em out!
 
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