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I have an 88 in the class, thank you. Today in fact, we used the computer in a class lesson. Showing movies and visuals relating to molecular biology can be a good thing.

My other classes which I am on my laptop - AP U.S. History, a 96, and AP English Literature a 92. TV Production, a course that *I* personally created, uses Macs as their platform, and in a class of 10, plus the teacher, three of us use Apple PowerBooks/MBPs. The fact that I have a laptop actually helps me get better grades than others. So don't go and use the "I shouldn't have one because it's a distraction" card.

Not to mention the nature of work I do at school, I need to have the unit there. Also today, we used my MBP for police matters - something that without my computer, we would have not been able to do in school.

I'm glad you're doing well in school, but there have been many people before you who did just as well without a computer. Nonetheless, I do think my statement was correct, since you should not be posting on MR while in class.;)

I do need to take my MacBook to high school. We use Fathom a dynamic data software for math and research, I have at least done several dozens of documents and tons of keynote addresses. My school is pretty into technology, and at least computer losses or robberies haven't been reported, and iPod losses occur because of vengeful acts, not stealing (you will find them crushed and thrown away at least once or twice a year because "that person is an idiot look his ipod lets smash it") I for once, have been taking my (PowerBook before) and my MacBook for 2 years and iPod/iPhone because the school knows they are useful; my math teacher acknowledged that if I listen to music during his tests I wont distracted and usually get higher grades. In some cases it isn't necessary, but in some cases computer(laptops for this matter)+school=better education.

-Victor

Your math teacher lets you listen to music? What's to stop you from cheating?

Either way, the point is that good learning does not require a computer. In fact, in some cases it can be a bad thing. Penmanship has been going down the drain as computers have become more prevalent in schools.
 
Interesting thread. Have been following it for a while now. Anyway, I'm in my last year of middle school (8th grade), and I do find myself wanting to bring one of my older, less appealing (read: pretty) laptops to lectures. Yes, I have lectures in the 8th grade, my social studies teacher wants to prepare us for high school, the old bat. Anyway, a week or so ago, I brought a 6 year old Thinkpad to Language Arts, but only because I have a very tolerant teacher.

I think that, once you get to high school, a laptop isn't really a necessity , but they are useful for lectures. Also, with regard to playing games in class, I wasn't even aware that the people sitting next to and behind you wouldn't get you busted for playing on your laptop. Or do the teachers really care? Do they have an "Oh well, it's your life" attitude? I sure wish they did. I totally would, except for I'm barely above a C in half of my classes, so I can't risk it.

Seriously, though, do the teachers care what you do?
 
Seriously, though, do the teachers care what you do?

For the most part, no. And they're not teachers, they're professors;)

Seriously, by the time you get to that level of education, you'll either sink or swim on your own work ethic, so beware.
 
The second rule on the list of rules says that students can't bring they're computers on the network.
I think they're to afraid someone's going to screw up the network of a bunch of windows boxes. I heard that last year (I'm a freshman) a bunch of kids got access to the network and somehow sent messages to about 20-30 computers in the library. Too bad I missed it...
 
Most school administrators, if they're running 2000 Pro or XP Pro on all of the machines, haven't learned enough to disable "net send" in the Windows command prompt. We had some fun with that for a couple years in high school until they hired a new admin who knew what he was doing...
 
I'm glad you're doing well in school, but there have been many people before you who did just as well without a computer. Nonetheless, I do think my statement was correct, since you should not be posting on MR while in class.;)
Meh - You "proving" you're a responsible adult doesn't render my statement incorrect... I suppose it depends on the student.

Other argument - sure, I posted while in "school," but there are plenty of folks here who post while they *should* be working (in "adult," full time jobs nonetheless).
 
I think that a school encouraging children to bring expensive computers in is completely wrong and it could create a haves and have nots culture which is never a good thing, especially when it's something so expensive.
 
There's no need to bring one in high school, or college for that matter. Law school, yeah. Stop being silly. In high school you're supposed to worry about how you're gonna bag that hot girl that you think you're in love with...not which PDAs/laptops to bring to class with you.
 
Absolutely not. I can't stand the people in school, let alone what the might do to my baby. Although many a day I would love to have something with a keyboard when taking notes, but the MBP will never go to HS if I can help it.

There's no need to bring one in high school, or college for that matter. Law school, yeah. Stop being silly. In high school you're supposed to worry about how you're gonna bag that hot girl that you think you're in love with...not which PDAs/laptops to bring to class with you.

FYI, that hot girl will notice you if you're doing something to distinguish yourself (IE typing on a laptop, etc).
 
Nah, my bag is heavy enough as it is, I can't phantom how you guys can carry the laptop on top of all the books and binders...
Then again, maybe you'd have smaller binders since you'll have less notes on paper, but still, I'd be too lazy to :eek:. I'm always late as it is, by the time I finished unplug everything and put the laptop in my backpack I might as well as just skipped the class. Which brings up another point- I have no room in my bag. It's a puma soon to be replaced by guess bag. Designed for shopping or gym in the puma's case, not notebooks :p.
I could use my iPod touch to go on the internet though :D.
 
FYI, that hot girl will notice you if you're doing something to distinguish yourself (IE typing on a laptop, etc).

Yeah, and think you're a tool and never look at you again.

Honestly, i was being pretty one sided...but that's because i'm a mechanical engineer and using a laptop for any of those classes would just be ass backwards. I'm sure it's useful for other types of classes in college, but definitely not for high school.
 
i would say that u dont have o bring it unless u really really need it for something rally important xD

but we have laptops at our school that we can use, so i dont have the need to bring my macbook. xD
and omg! i cannot live without my phone. have it with me at all times in school too xD :D
 
I also have Dysgraphia and Dylexia and have a laptop would help so much. On an average day, I take about 10-20 pages of notes and at the of the day, I can't read about 99% of them. Only 2 of my teachers use PowerPoint and one of them only uses them for prompts and stuff.
 
Wow you kids are spoiled, we didn't have cell phones or media players, the iPod didn't exist and bringing a computer to school was unheard of. I don't see a reason why you need to risk bringing an expensive item to school. More of a distraction if you ask me.

Arguments like this make me go bonkers, if you had a lap top, you would've used it. If iPods existed, you would've used them. Cell phones? Same thing.

Saying we're spoiled for using something that's extremely common in society now is just being thick headed.

"You're spoiled because you were born in a different era then me" is exactly what you're portraying.

Just because when YOU were 14 years old you didn't have iPods doesn't mean that the people who were in the same grade as you years before didn't have the things that you did.

I bet when you were 14 and in Junior high/High School you had fancy pens or what have you than 14 years ago never existed.

Don't call US spoiled because you're stuck in the past....
 
I find this relevant.

Our Generation:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dGCJ46vyR9o

More Information:
http://mediatedcultures.net/ksudigg/?p=119

This video was created by myself and the 200 students enrolled in ANTH 200: Introduction to Cultural Anthropology at Kansas State University, Spring 2007. It began as a brainstorming exercise, thinking about how students learn, what they need to learn for their future, and how our current educational system fits in. We created a Google Document to facilitate the brainstorming exercise, which began with the following instructions:

“… the basic idea is to create a 3 minute video highlighting the most important characteristics of students today - how they learn, what they need to learn, their goals, hopes, dreams, what their lives will be like, and what kinds of changes they will experience in their lifetime. We already know some things from previous research (and if you know of any interesting statistics, please list them along with the source). Others we will need to find out by doing a class survey. Please add whatever you want to know or present.”

Over the course of the next week, 367 edits were made to the document. Students wrote the script, and made suggestions for survey questions to ask the entire class. The survey was administered the following week.

I then took all of the information from the survey and the Google Document and organized it into the final script portrayed in the video which was all filmed in one 75 minute class period.

The introduction was filmed by myself a month later. It is inspired by Marshall McLuhan’s ideas as they apply to education, especially as they have been used by Neil Postman and Charles Weingartner in Teaching as a Subversive Activity.

How we gathered the numbers:

133 out of 200 students responded to the survey which yielded the results. Further explanation of the data is posted below:

“My average class size is 115.”
Survey: What is your average class size? Average: 115.0602

“18% of my teachers know my name.”
Survey: What percentage of teachers you have had in college would be able to recognize you and call you by name? Average: 18.2

I complete 49% of the readings assigned to me.
Survey: Not including this class, what percentage of assigned readings do you complete? Average: 48.73

Only 26% … relative to my life
Survey: Not including this class, what percentage of assigned readings do you find relevant to your life? Average: 25.95

“I will read 8 books this year.”
Survey: How many books have you read this year? Average 8.03 (ranging from 0-200)
We discovered later that there was some disagreement about whether this question referred to a semester, the past year, or the year starting as of January 1st (this survey took place in April – roughly equal to one semester). To make the ratio to web page and Facebook reading more accurate we assumed this statistic to relate to one semester rather than one calendar year.

“2300 web pages”
Survey: On average, how many web pages do you read each day? Average 21.51
(We then multiplied this by 105 – roughly the number of days in a semester – and rounded to 2300.)

“and 1281 facebook profiles”
Survey: “On average, how many Facebook profiles do you view each day?” Average 12.2 (multiplied by 105 = 1281)

“I will write 42 pages for class this semester.”
Survey: “On average, how many pages do you write for your classes each semester?
Average: 41.96

“And over 500 pages of email”
Survey: On average, how many pages of e-mails will you write in a single day?
Average: 4.96 (*105 days/semester = over 500)
 
Other argument - sure, I posted while in "school," but there are plenty of folks here who post while they *should* be working (in "adult," full time jobs nonetheless).

So because someone else does it, it's ok for you to do it?

I thought you were still in school?;)
 
I bring my MacBook Pro to school, its a 17" so its kinda heavy. I have it on me all the time I even take it with me to the bathroom and I don't care if people look at me funny I wont risk anything. I'm thinking of taking my iBook instaed to take notes on.
 
Arguments like this make me go bonkers, if you had a lap top, you would've used it. If iPods existed, you would've used them. Cell phones? Same thing.

Saying we're spoiled for using something that's extremely common in society now is just being thick headed.

"You're spoiled because you were born in a different era then me" is exactly what you're portraying.

Just because when YOU were 14 years old you didn't have iPods doesn't mean that the people who were in the same grade as you years before didn't have the things that you did.

I bet when you were 14 and in Junior high/High School you had fancy pens or what have you than 14 years ago never existed.

Don't call US spoiled because you're stuck in the past....

I'll call you spoiled then, and this is coming from a 20 year old.

You don't need a laptop in High School unless you have a learning disorder. Simple.

You don't need a laptop in College/University unless you have a learning disorder or your major specifically requires you have one. Unless you go to a cheap ass school, they'll have a computer lab (probably more than one) if you need to desperately use a computer while you're at school.

I DID have a laptop in highschool, and I would have NEVER brought it with me. Nobody brought their laptop. Why? Because everyone knew it was stupid. Yes, even kids taking all AP and honors classes, before some of you complain. I did very well in my advanced classes using a pen and paper to take notes when I needed to.

If you're having difficulty keeping up in a HS class without using your laptop to takes notes, I wouldn't recommend going to college.

Learn how to take effective notes (that means not writing down every word out of the professors mouth), and you won't even be writing much with a pen and paper.
 
I'll call you spoiled then, and this is coming from a 20 year old.

You don't need a laptop in High School unless you have a learning disorder. Simple.

You don't need a laptop in College/University unless you have a learning disorder or your major specifically requires you have one. Unless you go to a cheap ass school, they'll have a computer lab (probably more than one) if you need to desperately use a computer while you're at school.

I DID have a laptop in highschool, and I would have NEVER brought it with me. Nobody brought their laptop. Why? Because everyone knew it was stupid. Yes, even kids taking all AP and honors classes, before some of you complain. I did very well in my advanced classes using a pen and paper to take notes when I needed to.

If you're having difficulty keeping up in a HS class without using your laptop to takes notes, I wouldn't recommend going to college.

Learn how to take effective notes (that means not writing down every word out of the professors mouth), and you won't even be writing much with a pen and paper.


I am going to add to that. I do have a learning disability and I am 24. I grant you when I was in HS laptops where still a growing thing. My dad had one from work but that was about it. I still think a laptop in HS is stupid. The things that go on there just are not very nice for for being useful. Plus a battery could not make it though a day in HS.

Now college laptops are a different story and vary widely by class how often you see them. Classes that are notes do not have diagrams or math formals you tend to see more laptops. Those where the classes I took notes on my laptop in. History, English, Government, and some other cores. Now there are a handful of classes in my major I took notes on my laptop. But general speaking the classes you saw my laptop out in I was among several students who type them up.

I know in HS it not set up for laptops and they have no place there. Colleges run very different. We are in class some where around 15 hours a week (compared to 35 for HS). That means we have a very different system running for taking notes plus we have to do a lot more work out side of class. I have had weeks where I was pushing 60 hours between school work and class. Unlike HS in college a lot of the time we have some time between our classes where we can get work done. A laptop is a useful tool for that. I sorry but the computer labs on campus are nice but it always nice having all your own files and system set up on the laptop. I have done work up on the school computers. A few times I have finished up a paper and minor project work just I liked doing some of it on my laptop because it is mine and no school restrictions to deal with.

Laptops do not belong in HS.
 
I am going to add to that. I do have a learning disability and I am 24. I grant you when I was in HS laptops where still a growing thing. My dad had one from work but that was about it. I still think a laptop in HS is stupid. The things that go on there just are not very nice for for being useful. Plus a battery could not make it though a day in HS.

Now college laptops are a different story and vary widely by class how often you see them. Classes that are notes do not have diagrams or math formals you tend to see more laptops. Those where the classes I took notes on my laptop in. History, English, Government, and some other cores. Now there are a handful of classes in my major I took notes on my laptop. But general speaking the classes you saw my laptop out in I was among several students who type them up.

I know in HS it not set up for laptops and they have no place there. Colleges run very different. We are in class some where around 15 hours a week (compared to 35 for HS). That means we have a very different system running for taking notes plus we have to do a lot more work out side of class. I have had weeks where I was pushing 60 hours between school work and class. Unlike HS in college a lot of the time we have some time between our classes where we can get work done. A laptop is a useful tool for that. I sorry but the computer labs on campus are nice but it always nice having all your own files and system set up on the laptop. I have done work up on the school computers. A few times I have finished up a paper and minor project work just I liked doing some of it on my laptop because it is mine and no school restrictions to deal with.

Laptops do not belong in HS.
It's kinda weird. As I said before. My school policy is "No personal computers on the network" and no has ever thought of even bring a computer to type on but the the school is perfectly capable of handling the laptops. Most teachers use laptops and get on with no problem. they're probably afraid of us screwing it up.

I have a learning disability and I having been typing every piece of homework for the past 3 years. (minus math) I can usually go to teacher and ask for powerpoint after class or after he/she presents it, but it'll make me late to my next class or it's kinda embarrassing. it would be much easier to grab the powerpoint off the network or just take notes off it when he/she's presenting it.

And if you saw the CrapTops on the laptop cart they got...
 
Some people have laptops at my school. I don't think anyone really worries about having them stolen.

The teachers allow it as long as they are being used appropriately.
 
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