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Higher Education Discount (UK)

Igantius said:
Before ordering a Mac today, one of my brothers called Apple to see if there were any other differences. The second advisor said that the only difference was that Applecare gives you global coverage, otherwise it's the same (able to transfer warranty etc.) - he didn't bother clarifying about the courier thing as a) there's an Apple Centre and b) was v happy to save a bit more.
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So, from this and other threads, my current understanding is that if we buy HE, online or by phone, we are already covered for 3 years and our warranty is transferable, all the £58.75 "uplift" gives us is

1. 3 years of phone support rather than 3 months.

2. A courier pick-up if a problem does arise, saving us a trip to an Apple store or an authorized reseller.

Does the Uplift also give you global coverage i.e. is the status of your cover uplifted to full parity with Applecare?

Or is it restricted to the country of purchase or the EMEA area (Europe, the Middle East and Africa)?

I notice, on a pricing quote from Apple, that the full name of the £58.75 cover is "EMEA CC-HE contract uplift".

I'm sure we'd all appreciate it if someone could shed some further light on this - my current thinking is that, as you automatically get the 3yrs warranty, it's not worth paying the extra unless you get the same global cover as as a result.
 
My brother placed his order online, but phoned to check a couple of things. On the relavant pages on the Apple site, it says you can place your order online or by phone - but it would pay to have information taken from the site that you could quote to them.

As I said in the post you quoted, my brother was told that the only difference between the 3-year warranty and the £58 uplift to Applecare, was that it also gave you global coverage (which is exactly what regular Applecare gives you).

emotion says you also get the courier pick-up – and as he’s one of the few people in this thread to have bought this way, I say he knows what he’s talking about :p
 
As a rough rule of thumb, use 15% - I think it varies a little between machines and it might be a little more than that. BTW, there's also sometimes a (very) modest saving on other products.
 
Pretty much. It's something like 14% on the lower end MB's, and 15% on the MBP's.

Btw, if you want to phone Apple from your mobile, and don't have 0800 numbers included in your free minutes, you can dial 0208 2181000, and at the switchboard ask for customer services (say you can't dial 0870 & they'll put you through).

There's a good site for finding out these kinds of numbers, called Say No to 0870. :)
 
I rang today from my mobile and just left off the first zero from the number, so started with 800

This isn't free and I don't know how much it costs.

Anyway I rang to check the price of the macbook and its £601, so pretty much £100 off. Thats a better discount than every other company and theres no laptops that can match the lowest spec model for the same discounted price. By Spec I also include the size as other notebooks of a similar size that I have seen for £600 only have a 1.66 core 2 duo w/ 2mb L2 cache. Even the lowest spec macbook is 2.0 Ghz w/ 4mb cache.

It is a shape apple decided to be stingy and only put a CD-RW in it and not a dual layer dvd writer as I doubt they cost much more to produce. Dual layer RW are the standard expected these days. But you could always hook up an external one as not many people burn DVD's on the move.
 
If only I could justify a £600 upgrade from my currect PC Laptop. :mad: I want a Mac and could buy one in a month or so by saving, but I feel like I wasted my money on my laptop 9 months ago! If I had looked around more I could have just got a gorgeous, compact Mac Mini instead of a big 15.4" laptop and would only have been about £150 more!
 
Igantius said:
... the only difference between the 3-year warranty and the £58 uplift to Applecare, was that it also gave you global coverage (which is exactly what regular Applecare gives you) ...
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Great, if global coverage is included that absolutely makes the £58.75 worth paying. I will double-check this with an Apple rep this afternoon and report back here.

mkgm1 said:
Pretty much. It's something like 14% on the lower end MB's, and 15% on the MBP's.
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In the past, Apple reps have suggested to me that different universities have different discounts and, supposedly, Edinburgh Uni is in the top tier.

Quotes I got on MBPs in January suggested that the discount was 16% but it currently seems to be exactly 15% - I was quoted £1,145.63 for the 15" 2.2GHz upgraded to 160G 5400rpm, normal price would be £1,348.99, a saving of 15%.

I wonder if Apple are beginning to standardize their discounts to 15%? Because, with forums like this, it must be getting harder to prevent some universities finding out that they're getting screwed.

mkgm1 said:
There's a good site for finding out these kinds of numbers, called Say No to 0870. :)
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Great site, use it all the time, really hate those rip-off "local-rate" numbers.

@Daniel75: Thanks for posting your quote, works out at 15% too.

emotion said:
The HE price is close to being the normal Apple store price without the VAT.
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If only! At 15% it's well short of 17.5%.

BTW, ADC discount on a MBP is currently 20%.
 
Guys - If you buy Aperture through HE store - you're buying "academic" version of it? Or is it full, normal:) qualified for further upgrades version?
 
Daniel75 said:
Guys - If you buy Aperture through HE store - you're buying "academic" version of it? Or is it full, normal:) qualified for further upgrades version?
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Daniel, I don't know first-hand but I'm pretty sure that, if you're getting a substantial discount, you are getting the academic license and your upgrade path is restricted.

Only fair, I suppose, as the discounts are massive - I was quoted £365 + VAT for Final Cut Studio and £237 + VAT for Logic Pro.
 
Ok here's one for you. I my Mum (who is a staff member at a Uni) was to buy a MBP 17" for me I understand that the Warranty would be under her name etc and she would have to deal with any faults etc with the MBP. But what would happen if I bought an Applecare package would it still be registered to her? Is there anyway she can let me be the one to have the warranty etc?
 
emotion said:
Discount for macbooks: 16.2%, mbp 17.6% (15inch)

Check the figures.
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Emotion, where are you getting your figures from?

I'm using Daniel75's figures, as posted above, and the quote I received yesterday myself.

And a calculator.
 
AFKMatrix said:
Ok here's one for you. I my Mum (who is a staff member at a Uni) was to buy a MBP 17" for me I understand that the Warranty would be under her name etc and she would have to deal with any faults etc with the MBP. But what would happen if I bought an Applecare package would it still be registered to her? Is there anyway she can let me be the one to have the warranty etc?
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Regular Applecare is fully transferable, HE cover is transferable to other eligible people (i.e. students, academic staff) but, given that they don't always verify your status when buying at edu discount, I doubt they waste any time verifying when transferring the name on the warranty.

Having said that, if it was me, I would just keep it in my mom's name, I presume you're in fairly regular contact with her.

BTW, what sort of discount do uni staff members get?
 
Donnacha said:
Emotion, where are you getting your figures from?

I'm using Daniel75's figures, as posted above, and the quote I received yesterday myself.

And a calculator.
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Me too (my mbp full price below is off the Apple website)

Discount = ((Full price/HE price) - 1) x 100

ie. for 15/2.4 mbp

Discount= ((1599/1359.48) - 1 ) x100


edit: actually there's a small error there. Ignore the figures. Take VAT off the Store price and that's the HE price as a rule of thumb. See below.
 
Daniel75 said:
oh - for the record - my figures are from "Apple Store for Higher Education - National Agreement"
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Did you access them from your college's network or the NUS website? I'm curious to find out if, as I suspected, all HE institutions are now receiving the same discount.

Mine, indicating the same 15% on MBPs, were emailed to me following a phone call.
 
emotion said:
Me too (my mbp full price below is off the Apple website)

Discount = ((Full price/HE price) - 1) x 100

ie. for 15/2.4 mbp

Discount= ((1599/1359.48) - 1 ) x100
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LOL.

Emotion, you're screwing it up by trying to be so fancy.

Just do it simply:

1599 - 15% = 1359.15
 
Donnacha said:
LOL.

Emotion, you're screwing it up by trying to be so fancy.

Just do it simply:

1599 - 15% = 1359.15
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That's what comes of answering all these questions whilst trying to do my job (in computing)

:D :D

Price of middle MBP = 1599
Price without VAT (17.5%) = 1360.85
HE price =1359.80

That's the logic I was working on. The HE price is basically the Store price without the VAT (as I was saying).

And with that gents I gotta get this perl install sorted and my cgi scripts working.
 
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