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Highlights of Apple's iPhone OS 3.0 Preview: Copy and Paste, A2DP, MMS, Much More

For all the Pre fanboys, please can it. Just because you saw it on Giz or Engadget or whomever's coverage of a trade show doesn't mean it's going to be just so in the real world. Blackberry Storm? Yeah that is really living up to it's hype isn't it? G1? Has a lot of promise but I don't think it's quite fully baked judging from the few times I've played with the one a friend of mine bought. She's less than impressed to be sure. Palm Pre? Tell me how that works when it's been in the hands of the every day users for a few months. It may be every thing it's cracked up to be and give me a new gadget to lust for but I'm not holding my breath on Palm really really delivering the goods.

You don't like the iPhone or are disappointed by today's revelations? Get over it. Sell your iPhone or don't upgrade when the time comes. Buy a Pre and cross your fingers that enough other folks do the same. Palm ain't the healthiest of companies so their future is hinging on the success of the Pre to a certain extent.

Sure some of this stuff should have been ready to roll when the 3G came out, at the absolutely latest. Still it didn't stop me from buying my 4GB with no subsidy. I knew the potential was there and that Apple would probably knock my socks off when they had things the way they wanted them. Mission accomplished today and then some.

BF
 
Rivix said:
Perhaps, but there isn't really anything that appeals to iPod Touch owners to pay $10.
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ipod touch users complaining about the price? you don't have to update. and last time i checked its always been that way. you paid 229-400 for an ipod and here comes n update thats well worth the reason to update and still complain lol. I'm sure you have blown 10 dollars on less useful things and not even thought twice about it.
 
I'd still like to see tethering on the iPod touch, as a client usable with Bluetooth phones. That way I could have Internet anywhere even if it's over EDGE on T-Mobile, and if my iPod battery runs down from watching WALL-E too many times I can still make phone calls.

I'm not counting on this, though hearing that the iPod touch 2Gs will get Bluetooth enabled in 3.0 is at least a positive development.
 
Overall, I'm very satisfied.

Ticks most of the things I would like. Only really Tasks sync with iPhone that I wanted.

One of the realy big things to me seems like the new SDK and the extra creative freedom that it implies for developers. I really hope it's true - I can see some very useful apps coming our way.
 
Mass Delete?

I didn't see any mention of being able to delete "all" emails in the mail app as opposed to having individually select every email you want to trash. Anyone see anything? Thanks.

B
 
Cravendale said:
Thanks. All iPhones excluding unlocked jailbroken 2Gs I assume? Haha...

Leads on to my second question then, with all these new features implemented, what are they going to focus on to sell the next gen iPhone?

Is there a release date for 3.0?
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This was an event for the iPhone 3.0 SDK which can be installed on all iPhones/iPod Touches, it was so developers know what they can develop for all the hand helds, I'm sure they're holding back some features that will be hardware specific for the next gen iPhone and iPod Touch. There is no release date for 3.0 yet, but probably June at WWDC when the next iPhone will be released.
 
ipoppy said:
...hmm...turn-by-turn. Is that meant TomTom finally can sell their app without restrictions on iPhone? Please correct me if I am wrong.
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It sure sounds that way. They did say, though, that for licensing reasons any app would have to include its own maps. There goes that $300 I spent on a GPS flying out the window... who will need two devices when you could buy an app for probably $50 or so that does the same thing?
 
Any mention of a categories like feature? Something to organize applications in the Springboard? I don't remember reading anything.
 
Bob Fraggle said:
For all the Pre fanboys, please can it. Just because you saw it on Giz or Engadget or whomever's coverage of a trade show doesn't mean it's going to be just so in the real world. Blackberry Storm? Yeah that is really living up to it's hype isn't it? G1? Has a lot of promise but I don't think it's quite fully baked judging from the few times I've played with the one a friend of mine bought. She's less than impressed to be sure. Palm Pre? Tell me how that works when it's been in the hands of the every day users for a few months. It may be every thing it's cracked up to be and give me a new gadget to lust for but I'm not holding my breath on Palm really really delivering the goods.

You don't like the iPhone or are disappointed by today's revelations? Get over it. Sell your iPhone or don't upgrade when the time comes. Buy a Pre and cross your fingers that enough other folks do the same. Palm ain't the healthiest of companies so their future is hinging on the success of the Pre to a certain extent.

Sure some of this stuff should have been ready to roll when the 3G came out, at the absolutely latest. Still it didn't stop me from buying my 4GB with no subsidy. I knew the potential was there and that Apple would probably knock my socks off when they had things the way they wanted them. Mission accomplished today and then some.

BF
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A) Same thing goes for the 3.0 software update. In fact, it's common practice with iPhone junkies and fanboys/girls to assume something unleashed by Apple is going to be flawless.... ala the SDK and 2.0 and Leopard.

B) You're commenting about Pre fanboys/girls why???? I don't think that tiny group of people will withstand the hundreds of posts screaming about the 3.0 update.
 
smiddlehurst said:
Lies my arse.

How many carriers supply their phones with a package that includes unlimited data as standard? In the UK at least O2 does special tarrifs for the iPhone that do just that, even on pay as you go. It's hardly a big surprise that they'd be more than a wee bit reluctant to open that unlimited bandwidth up for use as a 3G modem considering it's already one of the (if not THE) best combination of minutes, texts, 3G data, wireless hotspot access and handset available.

Let me put it this way, if they do allow tethering then you can buy an iPhone for around £345 for the 8Gb model and get unlimited wi-fi hotspot and 3G access for 12 months. Considering the basic iPod Touch 8Gb will set you back £165 you're paying £180 for the additional phone capability, wi-fi access and unlimited 3G data over the course of the year. That's £15 a month. Now allow someone to use that data connection on a laptop / desktop computer... do you REALLY think O2 are going to make any money on that deal?

(Disclaimer - I'm not sure if there's a minimum top up on the PAYG iPhone but even if there is it's only £10 and that would basically buy you calls as well as the data so the example, while slightly shaky, does stand up)
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Well, I don't know as in the UK, but in Central Europe (e.g. the Slovak Republic) you can even buy a 3G modem for your PC (or Mac). The tariff is something like EUR 15/month and you have 2 GB of data prepaid. I do not need unlimited data if there is a reasonable price for reasonable data amounts. Why not use the iPhone instead of the extra modem?
 
peter2 said:
From the Q&A:

Q: Where do you stand on tethering?
A: There’s two pieces needed to support that: client side and working with carriers. We’re absolutely supporting tethering in the client side in iPhone 3.0, but we’re working with carriers around the world to see when they can add tethering support on their networks. But we are building that support into iPhone 3.0.

Are they seriously telling these lies publicly? Carriers (at least in Europe) support tethering for at least 5 years!!! What exactly is Apple working with the carriers on? What a ********.
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well certainly the majority of the UK carriers forbid you from tethering in your contract - they probably wish to push an expensive data plan on you before your allowed to do it. some of them certainly monitor for "excessive" data usage as an indicator of tethering.
so i suspect Apple are trying to sort out the cost implications with the carriers
 
Syrus28 said:
Once again, data is data is data. What does 2GB of data usage on an tethering plan matter to AT&T vs. 2GB on an iPhone? As long as they continue to enforce the ironic 5GB cap on our "unlimited plan", what's the problem? More likely than not, it's for $$$.
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Of course it's for $$$. It took you that long to figure it out?

How many people can hit 5GB on heavy iPhone usage? How long would it take you to hit 5GB with tethering? You can't be that dense as to not understand how much more bandwidth tethering would take up...can you?
 
steeler560 said:
however, for a guy that uses his cell phone while driving all day I desperately need VOICE DIAL to avoid ramming into the car in front of me.
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No, you desperately need to pull over if you're going to be talking on your phone. I don't care if it's an inconvenience either. As someone who walks and rides bicycles legally, safely, as a part of traffic, I have to watch what every driver on the road is doing while they're driving, and the ones blabbing away on phones are by far the most inattentive, dangerous people on the road. ...as a pedestrian & cyclist who does so with a sidearm, I would say for your own sake, you had damn well better drive attentively enough to avoid slamming into a car directly in front of your face, or you'd better hit me to kill me, cause if you start the job, one of us is going down, guaranteed. Your impatience does not outweigh anyone elses right to live.
 
Ok, let me preface this by saying I'm *thrilled* about the event. But after some reflection, I did think of one thing I wanted that they didn't do (or maybe I should say may not have done, since there are more features they didn't talk about).

How about the ability to have different signatures for different email addresses? If/when my job allows me to ditch my bb and use an iphone for work this will be very important because otherwise all of my personal emails will go out with a really long and stupid signature. It just seems like such a very simple and obvious thing that could be a big deal to business users.

(Of course, worst case scenario is that I use the cut feature on my personal emails. :))
 
ggt said:
all really nice, but I want unobtrusive notifications. Just think of all the annoying notifications popping up with push.
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It would be nice if you had the option to have the notifications OR a little red circle with a number just like Mail, SMS, and the App Store. A sound too maybe. At least give us the options!
 
Hello!

First off all I would just like to say hello to you all... I've been checking out these forums for ages now and have only just set up an account. I'm sure I be posting regularly from now on (especially since my dissertation is due in soon!).

Today's announcements seem really great. One question RE bluetooth support and third party accessories - any idea if the iPhone will be able to support bluetooth keyboards in apps, 3rd party or otherwise? This could be incredibly useful for firing out longer-than-normal emails, or for editing text documents on the move...
 
ThunderSkunk said:
...as a pedestrian & cyclist who does so with a sidearm, I would say for your own sake, you had damn well better drive attentively enough to avoid slamming into a car directly in front of your face, or you'd better hit me to kill me, cause if you start the job, one of us is going down, guaranteed. Your impatience does not outweigh anyone elses right to live.
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Wow, most angry and unnecessary post EVER.
 
ThunderSkunk said:
No, you desperately need to pull over if you're going to be talking on your phone. I don't care if it's an inconvenience either. As someone who walks and rides bicycles legally, safely, as a part of traffic, I have to watch what every driver on the road is doing while they're driving, and the ones blabbing away on phones are by far the most inattentive, dangerous people on the road. ...as a pedestrian & cyclist who does so with a sidearm, I would say for your own sake, you had damn well better drive attentively enough to avoid slamming into a car directly in front of your face, or you'd better hit me to kill me, cause if you start the job, one of us is going down, guaranteed. Your impatience does not outweigh anyone elses right to live.
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+1

I love that my state (CT) has banned cellphone useage while driving, i wish they did a better job of enforcing it. Far too many people are losing their lives because stupid teenagers and businessmen cannot wait 5 minutes to respond.
 
fimac said:
This event was about the SDK and current hardware. In other words the focus was developers, not consumers.

However, Apple did reveal a few things about the UI, which pretty much match the loudest complaints in these forums :p

You can be sure that the UI will be refreshed in time for official release, but was not shown today since that would give competitors a 3 or 4 month window of opportunity...

As a developer, I feel invigorated, *so* many things are now possible! :D

As a consumer, I feel re-assured: Apple is listening to our feedback!

This was a good result :apple:
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Wise words sir - it's a shame many of the posters clearly have forgotten that this was indeed a developers event.

It's a sign of goodness on the way for the summer months - from a consumers perspective I'm so, so glad that Apple have finally seen sense and allowed (amongst other things) turn-by-turn.

Awesome... :D
 
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