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Highlights of Apple's iPhone OS 3.0 Preview: Copy and Paste, A2DP, MMS, Much More
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LOL. Did I say you did? Part of my post was regarding exclusivity agreements and what impact that might have on new Apple carrier agreements (whether its abstaining from CDMA for 5 years or AT&T exclusivity for 3 years). Is there some high offense in quoting you? Mad-on for Verizon?
My post mentions multiple carriers.~ CB
LOL. Did I say you did? Part of my post was regarding exclusivity agreements and what that form that might take (whether its abstaining from CDMA for 5 years or AT&T exclusivity for 3 years). Is there some high offense in quoting you?
~ CB
It just looked like you were correcting me...
Think of it as using your post as a springboard so as not to look completely out of left field. I do it all the time.
Like some of the other posters, I don't understand why some people are angry about the features that Apple announced.
Yes, they are features that are already present in other phones. If that is the case, why don't you own one of those phones instead? This is not a difficult solution.
For me, this phone meets most of what I want in a phone: e-mail, web surfing, iPod, etc.
The awesome:
Cut, copy and paste: This is the most exciting feature for me. While I don't need CCP, this will add to the functionality of the phone.
Notes sync: Another exciting feature for me. Notes is really useful and having a way to sync them is great for me.
The meh:
Tethering: so what if countries in Europe give free tethering? It's irrelevant to those who live in the USA. We will likely never get free tethering. If it surprises anyone that corporations are bastards, you obviously missed the story about AIG and the bonuses they're giving to their executives--with bailout money.
This just gives AT&T an excuse to charge $30-60/month. Meh.
MMS: This doesn't add functionality to the phone. I think texting is lame. What I find funny is that 1st gen iPhone users expect Apple to expend time and money to give them MMS. Please. Other people have pointed out that it's a ploy to induce you to buy a new phone.
If you don't like that solution, jailbreak and see if you can get Swirly to work on your phone.
The rest:
As for A2DP and the other features, I'll give them a try.
Features I'm glad they didn't include:
Video: I used to use cycorder, but the video was pretty bad. There are other phones that have video, why not buy them instead?
Voice dialing: This is my pet peeve. There have been a number of drivers who almost rammed into my car, because they weren't paying attention when they were changing lanes.
Studies have shown that hands free devices don't help when it comes to the inability of the driver to pay attention.
Nobody needs to talk while they're driving. People who drive and talk are a menace to other drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians. For real emergencies, you have the option to pull over. This is especially true for doctors, because driving takes away from one's concentration. I know I don't want my doctor to make medical decisions while s/he is maneuvering the highway.
Yes, they are features that are already present in other phones. If that is the case, why don't you own one of those phones instead? This is not a difficult solution.
For me, this phone meets most of what I want in a phone: e-mail, web surfing, iPod, etc.
The awesome:
Cut, copy and paste: This is the most exciting feature for me. While I don't need CCP, this will add to the functionality of the phone.
Notes sync: Another exciting feature for me. Notes is really useful and having a way to sync them is great for me.
The meh:
Tethering: so what if countries in Europe give free tethering? It's irrelevant to those who live in the USA. We will likely never get free tethering. If it surprises anyone that corporations are bastards, you obviously missed the story about AIG and the bonuses they're giving to their executives--with bailout money.
This just gives AT&T an excuse to charge $30-60/month. Meh.
MMS: This doesn't add functionality to the phone. I think texting is lame. What I find funny is that 1st gen iPhone users expect Apple to expend time and money to give them MMS. Please. Other people have pointed out that it's a ploy to induce you to buy a new phone.
If you don't like that solution, jailbreak and see if you can get Swirly to work on your phone.
The rest:
As for A2DP and the other features, I'll give them a try.
Features I'm glad they didn't include:
Video: I used to use cycorder, but the video was pretty bad. There are other phones that have video, why not buy them instead?
Voice dialing: This is my pet peeve. There have been a number of drivers who almost rammed into my car, because they weren't paying attention when they were changing lanes.
Studies have shown that hands free devices don't help when it comes to the inability of the driver to pay attention.
Nobody needs to talk while they're driving. People who drive and talk are a menace to other drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians. For real emergencies, you have the option to pull over. This is especially true for doctors, because driving takes away from one's concentration. I know I don't want my doctor to make medical decisions while s/he is maneuvering the highway.
I keep staring at the abyss of starting under a new screen name. At times, no matter what my intention, it sounds like I'm being contrary and snotty. Sometimes I'm just talking about things I think are interesting, fishing for other perspectives and insight.
~ CB
The feature I'd kill for (and I'm talking as an iPod Touch 2G user) is the ability to connect the Touch to another BT enabled 3G phone (like my Nokia) and have internet access through the phone's 3G network.
After 3.0 was announced, I started regretting my decision to get a Touch + a Nokia 3G phone with all BT capabilities, MMS, 3.2MP photo/video camera, etc, instead of an iPhone.
This feature would keep me from buying the new iPhone that'll probably come out in June.
After 3.0 was announced, I started regretting my decision to get a Touch + a Nokia 3G phone with all BT capabilities, MMS, 3.2MP photo/video camera, etc, instead of an iPhone.
This feature would keep me from buying the new iPhone that'll probably come out in June.
Could someone please test iPhone OS 3.0 with the Apple In-Ear Headphones with Remote & Mic, the Apple Earphones with Remote & Mic and/or the new shuffle earphones?
I'd like to know if the volume controls now work on the iPhone
I'd like to know if the volume controls now work on the iPhone
There is a post somewhere that points to engadget finding a way to upload video from the iPhone. So it could be possible that the next iPhone is going to allow video.
That 2007 article is both out of date and incorrect about "Verizon moving to GSM". LTE is neither GSM nor CDMA compatible. It's more like WiMAX in many ways.
As for being inter-carrier compatible, I think that unless Congress mandated it, ATT and Verizon are specifically going to make sure their devices can't be easily moved between them. It's not in their interest.
Verizon has also said they're planning on using LTE only for non-voice data at first, in laptops, homes, cars, etc. Their CDMA network will continue to be the voice carrier and will be around well into the next decade. ATT will probably do the same. In other words, an LTE phone could be rare for a while. (Subject to change.)
Finally, there's also the fact that an LTE phone will need, for at least five years to come, a way to fall back on the old method (CDMA or GSM) when you go out of LTE coverage, similar as is done now with 3G back to 2G. That would pretty well lock us into one carrier right there.
I agree 100%. It would be cool if there was a little lock icon in the corner that would let you lock whatever orientation you were in. Like you said, sometimes if your laying down or sideways the screen keeps flipping.
Yep, hate that. But then I shake my head and tell myself 'you're displeased because the device is doing what it is supposed to. It can't read your mind'.
I think the US sends SMS/MMS to the tune of over a BILLION a year. So I think there are a "few" people out there that would disagree with you.
That sounds more reasonable. I think the idea was NOT the LTE was GSM or CDMA compatible. I'm not sure anyone said that (I don't think I did). The notion was that AT&T and Verizon's LTE implementations would be compatible with each other... which might lead to a unified iPhone hardware for the both of them.
Hence, getting Apple to refrain from making a CDMA device for 5 years. That's been the rumor I think. But, 5 years is up in 2012. Still a little wait I guess.
The unofficial Apple web log also had an inaccurate post about it in Feburary that they updated after feedback:
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/02/18/an-iphone-on-verizon-in-2010-with-lte-it-could-happen/
That was the first I'd heard of anyone thinking LTE would make Verizon GSM compatible. The notion that they would need a "fallback" to the previous network does blow a whole in anything that's not able to do that. I just wonder if Apple would be capable of making one phone than does GSM, CDMA, and LTE without breaking a sweat. With some level of synergy on the forward looking standard, you'd expect anything was possible:
Qualcomm's new MSM6300 chipset allows GSM/CDMA roaming
http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=145
Qualcomm gets cozy with LTE, makes migrating from CDMA a snap
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/08/qualcomm-gets-cozy-with-lte-makes-migrating-from-cdma-a-snap/
~ CB
You want to hear something strange... so, like I said earlier, I'd READ somewhere that Apple's MMS service wouldn't be available in non-3G areas. --Which just sounds awful. Made me wonder if I'd read wrong. Yet... look at Apple's press release.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/03/17iphone.html
Bingo. I don't think I can read that any other way. If they're implying that MMS is only available where "data" service is available (whether EDGE or 3G), I'd be surprised. If it's exposed that this is all a big lie, it will make the whole pricing change debacle look like Christmas by comparison. Interesting though... I just got a message update from iTunes. I've never received one like this.
~ CB
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Interesting find. I have seen that update. It is a PRL (and probably other stuff) update.
mms on the first gen iphone are you people retarted
what do you mean the first gen iphone can't mms because of hardware it does it just fine in portugal and spain ask apple why it has a mms app in it's appstore there and allow it to work fine stop being sheep and and listen to apple's hype the first gen iphones can handle both mms under (swirlymms) and bluetooth stereo it does it now under jailbreak so why can't it under apple legit firmware who are they kidding.i not up grading to a new iphone after being ripped off the first time around and now they think if they refuse to add mms to the first gen i'll just get a new one they better think again ever hear of the (pre) later apple go ahead and refuse to add mms and bluetooth to the first iphone.
what do you mean the first gen iphone can't mms because of hardware it does it just fine in portugal and spain ask apple why it has a mms app in it's appstore there and allow it to work fine stop being sheep and and listen to apple's hype the first gen iphones can handle both mms under (swirlymms) and bluetooth stereo it does it now under jailbreak so why can't it under apple legit firmware who are they kidding.i not up grading to a new iphone after being ripped off the first time around and now they think if they refuse to add mms to the first gen i'll just get a new one they better think again ever hear of the (pre) later apple go ahead and refuse to add mms and bluetooth to the first iphone.
bull the iphone works fine the on verizon network
who said the iphone doesn't work on verizon do your homework before you say that mine's is working fine on their network screw at@t p.s i have mms hahahaha working on it first gen iphone now how did that happen hmmmm
take it from someone who works for verizon and has a iphone working on it's network
the iphone does work on verizon don't let anyone tell you it doesn't when your contract ends take it to the local verizon store and tell them you want to add it on if you already have someone on verizon as a family plan it works just fine plus mms will be activated as part of your service.
at@t does wipes of the system to make sure iphones that are jailbroken don't have mms activated on thier system so don't say it doesn't work in europe mms works fine on first gen and 3g so cut being a apple / at@t polisher mmsswirly works fine under any other carrier so your gonna tell me they can't get it working in the usa please the radio feq is what is being used by at@t to block you now from geting it when the 3.0 firmware comes out it will be activated but firstgen iphone user will be locked out that's how they will know who has what and who receive mms service. it's not that your phone can't it's that they won't let you
if you think so stay where you are then i not telling you to leave at@t but if your so upset about no mms in 3.0 for the first gen i'm telling you what's wrong i live on the eastcoast i'm telling you mine's is on verizon and i hate to tell you verizon is in europe under vodaphone and they have it there so if you wanna believe me or not i could careless i not stuck to at@t lol haha my wife and daughter have a blackberry storms and i have the iphone first gen on a family plan i have mms working on my iphone it's at@t that is blocking you guys from getting your service hate to say it.plus like i said i work at verizon and it was word that was not to be said until the 2yr iphone contracts with at@t were up.to the first gen iphone people if you wanna switch you can if you don't believe me go to your local verison store and askthem that you wanna and your bring iphone over to their service see what they say.Puff Puff pass man, puff puff pass...