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Hints Increasingly Point to Impending Launch of Apple's 27" LED Cinema Display

THX1139 said:
They can keep this over priced glossy display. At our lab, we have a bunch of iMacs with glossy displays; it's like a room full of mirrors. They are terrible unless you make the room dark. I'm sure the 27" is going to be pretty, but will it be functional compared to what you can get from Dell or NEC? I think not.
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Only when there is a lot of lighting and when the computers are turned off. Dell and NEC both sell glossy displays but also offer matte options. So your logic doesn't make sense in either situation. Matte is form over function. It reduces glare but the main point of a monitor is to see what's being displayed. Glossy doesn't block light, matte coatings do.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
This is a pretty solid display. Sure, there are better displays but what really matters is the content that you create with this. Not some spec about aspect ratio, gamut and glossy. Glossy is more color accurate than matte anyway, unless you factor in sunlight, if you really know your specs. That being said, I do prefer matte but not because of color accuracy, but because I sometimes work in areas with glare. For a desktop setting, matte doesn't belong. Aspect ratio doesn't really matter either, with most displays are going 16:9 in the PC world.
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Content? Really? Then go and buy the cheapest monitor in Wal-Mart and stay true to your content theory. Specs do not matter, you know.
 
30" + someday

I hope Apple eventually will update the 30" or larger display down the road. As I type this looking at my 30" ACD I cannot express how great is working on such large display.
If they discontinue it forever I will sadly miss it. :(
 
No Apple displays for me

I've had an Apple 30" displays for 5 or so years now. After the 1 year warranty ran out it has had many problems. Sometimes like now many of the greays are red. Sometimes it can be other colors.

For this reason I purchased an HP LP3065 30" display. Much better than the Apple 30" display. After all the rumors indicated that Apple would go to a 16:9 screen I then purchased a new model HP ZR30w 30" display. This display has 4 USB 2 ports, a DLDVI & a DisplayPort video connectors. It even a better screen than the first HP model. Its nice having 3 30" displays.

I was holding out for Apple to go to a 42" or so model that had 3840 X 2400 pixel display. But the 27" model went the other way, smaller, not bigger. Of my Apple displays the 23" model that my wife now uses, is the best of my 3 Apple displays.

I believe that in a Pro Model, which the 27" model fails the requirements in so many ways, should be like the 15" & 17" Intel MacBook Pros that give the user of matte or glossy screens. The glossy vs. matte screen is something that means a lot to many & not much to most. Apple has made TV/entertainment aspect ratios the screen that is 10% smaller in an area that is already too small for many. Many users need the additional height of the older 4:3 ratio screens. 16:9 is a very poor alternative for the group & many other groups. No Apple 27" for me now or in the future.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Only when there is a lot of lighting and when the computers are turned off. Dell and NEC both sell glossy displays but also offer matte options. So your logic doesn't make sense in either situation. Matte is form over function. It reduces glare but the main point of a monitor is to see what's being displayed. Glossy doesn't block light, matte coatings do.
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This! It's not that hard to understand that a matte coating reduces the effective light output on a display. Granted displays are so bright these days that it doesn't really matter, but having a matte coating is not automatically better than glossy, it's just a matter of preference and environment. If I my display is in a completely dark room all the time why would I want a matte display? Similarly if my display was in a super bright room with lights coming from behind me, that would be a situation where matte would be better.

Stop being elitist idiots, and just buy the display you want. Stop trying to tell people yours is superior or whatever. People want the 27" Apple LED display because it is cheap (yes, don't even try to argue this point, it's cheaper than other 27-inch and above computer displays on the market) and it is high resolution. The other features it has help sell it as well, but those are subjective based on what someone needs.

It's complete BS that anyone would complain about color gamut on this display and then try to recommend a display with equally bad color gamut instead of something professional. Anyone who is complaining about color gamut is not going to be buying some Dell display instead of this Apple display, they are going to be buying something high end professional like a 10 bit display from EIZO or somebody similar. Otherwise they don't know what they are talking about and need to shut up.

The 27" LED Cinema Display is for a certain crowd, if you aren't in it, then go away.
 
ovrlrd said:
This! It's not that hard to understand that a matte coating reduces the effective light output on a display. Granted displays are so bright these days that it doesn't really matter, but having a matte coating is not automatically better than glossy, it's just a matter of preference and environment. If I my display is in a completely dark room all the time why would I want a matte display? Similarly if my display was in a super bright room with lights coming from behind me, that would be a situation where matte would be better.

Stop being elitist idiots, and just buy the display you want. Stop trying to tell people yours is superior or whatever. People want the 27" Apple LED display because it is cheap (yes, don't even try to argue this point, it's cheaper than other 27-inch and above computer displays on the market) and it is high resolution. The other features it has help sell it as well, but those are subjective based on what someone needs.

It's complete BS that anyone would complain about color gamut on this display and then try to recommend a display with equally bad color gamut instead of something professional. Anyone who is complaining about color gamut is not going to be buying some Dell display instead of this Apple display, they are going to be buying something high end professional like a 10 bit display from EIZO or somebody similar. Otherwise they don't know what they are talking about and need to shut up.

The 27" LED Cinema Display is for a certain crowd, if you aren't in it, then go away.
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I lol when I see people deem themselves as professionals who need "utmost color accuracy" yet buy $400 monitors :rolleyes:. For high end stuff, Lacie, Eizo, and NEC all make very nice high end monitors that you will pay DEARLY for.

Apple is the closest I can get without breaking $2000 or more so I am quite content. My prints match my 24inch ACD perfectly so I'm happy :D

Its also amazing how many of these "pros" don't have calibration equipment :eek:
 
chrono1081 said:
I lol when I see people deem themselves as professionals who need "utmost color accuracy" yet buy $400 monitors :rolleyes:. For high end stuff, Lacie, Eizo, and NEC all make very nice high end monitors that you will pay DEARLY for.

Apple is the closest I can get without breaking $2000 or more so I am quite content. My prints match my 24inch ACD perfectly so I'm happy :D

Its also amazing how many of these "pros" don't have calibration equipment :eek:
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I also would think most professionals would have more pressing matters to deal with than go on a forum and complain about an imperfect monitor that doesn't suit them. Oh well.
 
I'm in the market for a 30" display for working with photographs. There is a really nice Eizo display but costs around $5,200. The HP ZRW30 gets good reviews for color reproduction, color uniformity and such. Is there a similar quality display around in the $1,000 to $2,000 price range or is that the current leader?
 
chrono1081 said:
I lol when I see people deem themselves as professionals who need "utmost color accuracy" yet buy $400 monitors :rolleyes:. For high end stuff, Lacie, Eizo, and NEC all make very nice high end monitors that you will pay DEARLY for.

Apple is the closest I can get without breaking $2000 or more so I am quite content. My prints match my 24inch ACD perfectly so I'm happy :D

Its also amazing how many of these "pros" don't have calibration equipment :eek:
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No doubt.

I cut corners to buy 27" and 24" monitors in the past year on a budget. They got great reviews and recommended for their amazing specs (refresh, contrast, etc). But I have found such inconsistencies in performance and color with my MacBook. Also, the materials and fit/finish of the products are just not in the same league.

The 24" Apple LED has been out for almost 2 years now. I'm still not seeing mainstream monitors that rival this display at this price. I'm not talking about "specs" but overall quality of the whole package: bright accurate color, great sounding speakers, great camera, microphone, usb hub, simple cables with mini display port and magnetic power. Sure, I can buy speakers, I can buy a camera, I can buy a microphone, I can buy..., but why? I have a very clean desk with a MacBook I plug in each day. There is nothing better than this monitor for me.

I had sold my 20" Apple display from 05 and regret it. Specs and price are terrible reasons to choose a display. The quality of the Apple monitors along with overall features are worth the price. I've been eyeing the 24" Apple but now I'm thinking this 27" may be the way to go.
 
Just automatically assume that the 27" ACD will be the best monitor out there right when it hits the market. Just do it.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Only when there is a lot of lighting and when the computers are turned off. Dell and NEC both sell glossy displays but also offer matte options. So your logic doesn't make sense in either situation. Matte is form over function. It reduces glare but the main point of a monitor is to see what's being displayed. Glossy doesn't block light, matte coatings do.
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Matte displays are form over function? Matte is a surface characteristics, not a form.

Matte blocks light? Matte surfaces reflect less light. Which is why matte photo papers, for example, are very popular.

You can't apply any of these characteristics of matte on a display, though, as a display emits light. A matte display surface reflects less light, which is why the displayed content is better visible and not altered by reflections.

Matte displays are necessary for those who professionally depend on judging color and contrast correctly.

Glossy displays (at least Apple's glossy displays) increase the perception of contrast.

Glossy displays like the new 27" may look nice, but are useless for anybody who has to put out correct color and needs a display that shows contrast correctly. On top of all this they are overpriced, which makes them a bad business investment.
 
This be massive fail from Apple, according to the pro customers. Sadly, my money will go towards Dell then.
 
Blue Velvet said:
Totally with you there. Apple have decided to leave that market to others. Fine by me... the last Dell display I purchased for work was superb, not cheap, but worth every penny.
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Looking forward to it... Having used iMac's for the past 5 years and trying as many as a 1/2 dozen other brand monitors (including Dells)... none of them have the viewing angle that an iMac has.

Can't stand colors changing when I move around.

This will pair perfect next to an i7 iMac.
 
MacPhilosopher said:
Anyone else think this will have AppleTV built in? Have I just skipped a dozen post that say the same thing? Sorry if I did.
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No, just no. I am half tempted to not even reply to this, but it is just such an insane idea I kind of have to.

There is absolutely no way Apple would reveal the new Apple TV but fail to mention the new 27 inch displays having it built in, it would make no sense from a marketing standpoint to hide something like that until it was released. It would be an epic failure on Apple's part to not tell people about something that might increase sales.
 
qawes said:
This be massive fail from Apple, according to the pro customers. Sadly, my money will go towards Dell then.
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How is your money going towards Dell a better decision? They are even less "pro" than Apple displays. Dell targets their displays at gamers who only care about response time and HDMI input, not features Mac customers want like a webcam, built in speakers, ambient light sensor, or magsafe power.
 
Westside guy said:
Haven't you been paying attention? People are expecting the release of a new 27" MacBook Air at the same time. :D

At first glance you might think it'll be way too heavy - but leaked specs show that, under the case, there are two parallel hovercraft-style fans. So not only will it be light as a feather, your lap will always be nice and cool.
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:D lol, 27" laptop would be hilarious!

however, i'm not sure hovercraft-style fans will make the object lighter...
to my knowledge, the hovercraft is pushed up with the fans, not actually flying. but i could be mistaken.

back on topic: placing a 27" display next to a 27" imac is just wrong: they actually don't match sizes, unless you'd shove a phone-book underneath it :D
 
Tanguyvd said:
:D lol, 27" laptop would be hilarious!

however, i'm not sure hovercraft-style fans will make the object lighter...
to my knowledge, the hovercraft is pushed up with the fans, not actually flying. but i could be mistaken.

back on topic: placing a 27" display next to a 27" imac is just wrong: they actually don't match sizes, unless you'd shove a phone-book underneath it :D
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Yeah. So true. Stop with the matte vs. glossy discussion already it's a dead end. Yes an option would be nice, but for a desktop display I don't really care.

What drivesme insane, though, is the different HEIGHT. According to the pictures on Apples website the 27" ACD "starts" lower than the 27" iMac does.
Sure, it doesn't matter for MBP or MacPro folks. But for folks who want to extend their iMac (and let's face it, performance-wise the i7 iMac entered workstation territory) this is just madness. I really hope the ACD on the page is rendered wrong (like the iPod touches with a Phone icon) or underwent a last minute change. I sure don't want to make up stupid reasons to customers as to why they are different. I foresee, though, that I will.
 
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