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Hints Increasingly Point to Impending Launch of Apple's 27" LED Cinema Display
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Wow, somebody is grossly misinformed. Witness the Dell UltraSharp U2711 :
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&sku=224-8284&redirect=1
Same panel as the Apple iMac 27" (so the same panel as the Cinema Display), but way more options, and better yet, Factory color calibration, 3 year warranty and 110% color gamut (CIE1976 - 110% and CIE1931 - 102%).
Oh and what's this : "Zero Bright Pixels: Under Dell's Premium Panel Guarantee, you will receive a free panel exchange should even one bright defective pixel appear on the screen during your Limited Hardware Warranty3 period. "
A bit more Pro than Apple right there... But don't let reality get in the way of your uninformed rant. Your siblings here will appreciate your dedication to the cause.
Dell have been selling the same monitors that Apple does under their UltraSharp line which is a line as pro if not more than Apple offers. And hey, at least their cables are long enough. I hope Apple learned a thing or two about cable length with the 24" and actually give you some flexibility in how to position stuff on your desk with the 27".
Glossy is out.
Until they make a 27" with an anti-glare display, I'll be sticking with my old 23" cinema display(s). Between work and home, I use three of these.
Until they make a 27" with an anti-glare display, I'll be sticking with my old 23" cinema display(s). Between work and home, I use three of these.
For many people, matte is not an "option" but mandatory many people don't see their monitor merely as a "desktop display" but as an essential tool in getting their work done, and done correctly.
Serious professionals use hoods on their monitors to reduce, eliminate glare, and some high end monitors have glass fronts which is the cause of "Glare Gate":
Eizo displays:
The glass shouldn't make such a difference that it's a deal breaker. Further, there are after market companies that can apply a matte/anti-glare finish to the display. I was once one of the few who complained about the glass fronts, after replacing my 6 year old ACD's CCFL LCD's with 24" LED LCD's, I haven't had an issue with glare.
I'm surprised people are complaining as much. $999 for a 27" IPS LED LCD with built-in speakers, web cam and 3 USB ports is a great deal (yes, there aren't HDMI, DVI, SD, Component, VGA connections, but honestly I have those on one of my Dell's and I only use one connection, DVI). Find an IPS LED LCD panel for under $1000 with those features and I'll eat my words
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I know! How dare we discuss the topic at hand in a topical discussion forum!
Discussing something that will never happen is pointless. Accept glossy, or buy something else.
Just get a 27" refurbished iMac
Since you can hook your mac with a display port to an iMac and use that iMac as an external display, why not just buy a refurbished iMac for under $1270 and effectively get a computer with your monitor for $270 more? You also get a wireless keyboard and magic mouse.
Thoughts on this? Other than the waste of energy, seems like a good way to get a little more bang for your buck.
Since you can hook your mac with a display port to an iMac and use that iMac as an external display, why not just buy a refurbished iMac for under $1270 and effectively get a computer with your monitor for $270 more? You also get a wireless keyboard and magic mouse.
Thoughts on this? Other than the waste of energy, seems like a good way to get a little more bang for your buck.
That's a point I've been wondering about. If you do the math, $999 of an iMac is theoretically the display (let's assume $899 for a conservative estimate as I'm sure the 27" LED LCD has a profit markup). A base 27" iMac starts at $1699, so the computer components cost roughly $800-$900. Loosely guesstimating, half the cost of the 27" iMac is the LED LCD panel?
I''ve been having the same argument with myself ...
I also find myself checking out the 24" refurbs ....
Just can't make a call in any which direction just yet.
Yes, I agree with that, and i'll rather pay big money for a matte Cinema Display with all these features, but unfortunately it doesn't exist anymore.
I wonder if the third party customizers will ofer matte finish over this new display.
Discussing something that will never happen is pointless. Accept glossy, or buy something else.
The same thing could have been said in 2008...yet at MacWorld 2009 we were given the option of an AG screen on the 17 MBP; a computer that I'm using right now. Later, this was extended to the 15 inch model due to demand.
So, history has shown us that Apple will give the option of matte if there is enough demand.
I might just be getting a secondary display for me 27inch imac
Same. I currently have a 1080P 26" Vizio paired with my iMac and I really hate not having two displays of equal resolution and brightness. It will be nice to finally have two displays at 2560 X 1440 !
Interestingly, the glass front of the displays comes right off with suction cups (for iMac's too). Technically, you could replace the glass front with a different matte glass, right?
You agree with someone who was basically 100% wrong and is completely uninformed ? Great to know the reality distortion field still works fine after all these years.
Dell offers Pro options comparable to Apple's, not just "monitor for gamers" no matter how much you guys try to pretend otherwise.
I'm sure this is a nice display, but only Dell could muster up the courage to push HDCP as a selling point! From the web page,
"High-Definition Capability:
Enjoy high-performance audio and video quality with HDMI 1.3, DisplayPort and DVI-D digital connector with high-bandwidth Digital Copy Protection (HDCP) Ready."
HDCP Ready. What a selling point! LOL.
It is to someone who wishes to watch downloaded movies loaded with DRM. Like oh say... those you get from iTunes.
Apple also supports HDCP. I don't really get your point, besides the fact that you are also uninformed it seems. HDCP support is an important spec for many purchasers.
Wow, talk about someone who falls for Dell's marketing. Factory color calibration and 110% color gamut? Yeah, every company that makes displays says the same line of BS. Anyone who actually does the research knows the ultrasharp you are talking about only gets about 95% Color gamut at best and only after calibration. The main difference between the two displays we are talking about is the backlighting. You trade some color gamut for the ability to get better black levels. But who would blindly buy a display based on what some company says? Oh right, the person who tries to claim they are "professional" by buying a Dell display. Go buy an AIZO or something so it will fit your smug mentality, and hey you might actually get that color gamut you wish for.
Yeah but good luck talking to Dell to get those replaced. Their support is a pain to deal with. After my Dell display died (and still under warranty) they would not replace it. I tried calling them for weeks and they just kept transferring me to different people and treating me like crap. I am sure some people are lucky enough to get someone over there who has a clue, but I refuse to pay those bastards any of my money.
A bit more Pro than Apple right there... But don't let reality get in the way of your uninformed rant. Your siblings here will appreciate your dedication to the cause.
Dell have been selling the same monitors that Apple does under their UltraSharp line which is a line as pro if not more than Apple offers. And hey, at least their cables are long enough. I hope Apple learned a thing or two about cable length with the 24" and actually give you some flexibility in how to position stuff on your desk with the 27".
Whatever, you clearly are not going to listen to what anyone says anyway. Dell markets their crap as Pro by filling their website with BS marketing lines. If you are dumb enough to believe everything you read on a website just go buy the Dell and move on. Meanwhile I will buy the Apple and get a great display with great features that I want, and not have to deal with a company that won't return my calls when I need help.
Even if the Dell has a better color gamut, I won't risk having to deal with that crap. If I cared about that kind of thing I would buy an AIZO, but I want the features in the Apple display just like everyone else here. If I want to spend the money on a professional display I definitely won't be buying a Dell.
Don't all HDMI devices support HDCP? If so, why mention what would seem to be a negative?
So you're saying Apple has a worse monitor than Dell, even after adjusting for the "Dell marketing" ?
And you're saying Apple doesn't use BS specs but Dell does ?
Please, buy your Apple monitor with less options, but don't try to pass off Dell has a worse value proposition. Better warranty (and yes I've dealt with their support, both personally and professionally for displays, laptops and servers) and better features with the same panels is better value, there's no debate.
You really have to have your head deep into Apple's marketing to believe otherwise. It's funny how all your post did was attack Dell based on hearsay instead of actually adressing the products in question. Says a lot.
I lol when I see people deem themselves as professionals who need "utmost color accuracy" yet buy $400 monitors
Its also amazing how many of these "pros" don't have calibration equipment
That's why I bought an NEC2690wuxi2 with NEC branded colormeter & Spectraview II software. Hardware based calibration FTW
Sure it set me back $1200 but at least I don't have to worry about glare/reflections/eye strain.
Oh and the 27in Cinema Display is lovely too... for those who like them.
