I'm 43 and I have purchased and had newspapers delivered to my home. And have had many magazine subscriptions over the years. Everyone's different.
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You made my point for me. Netflix was nowhere near what it is now, back then. The hadn't made original content, everything was on a DVD, and then it grew after it had established a market. It was not amazing at launch.
Also — you keep conflating their hardware and their services when the rules don't really transfer across that line. Apple has been making laptops and desktops for decades, services don't follow the same pedigree. Apple had never made a watch before... I have the first one (series 0) it was great but not as good as it is now.
It just a ridiculous concept that the launch of something "needs" to be amazing when the first iPhone wasn't. The first iPod wasn't. Every single product they've made got better with time. I guess it's just the hyperbole people feel they need to inject into every comment — it's either hatred or adoration, the best or it sucks. Must be exhausting.
Edit: I am looking to see if they have the comics - the funnies.
BTW, this service is paid for by my taxes; so, no theft involved.
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I fully agree with you, but I think the younger the person, the less likely they are to be a subscriber to a newspaper or magizine, even in digital format. I’d consider people like me (41) and slightly older to be the boarder-line age for physical newspapers and magazines. My mom still gets her paper delivered daily. I occasionally scan through her paper in digital format when I’m missing my hometown. I highly doubt my 16 year old has ever touched a newspaper unless it was to take one to the trash. But I like options and being able to subscribe if one wants is a great thing.
Not something I've looked closely at. I just checked my libby app which I sometimes use to get library books and there's no magazines to be had in it.
But even with having that app to access library content I still buy ebooks and have an audible subscription. Most of the time the ebook/audiobook I want is checked out and I'm waiting. Or I can't finish it in the 3 weeks allowed and someone else is on the wait list for it and they take it back.
Edit- I went to our libraries site and yes, they have magazines you can check out. They direct you to yet another app just for those. RBDigital.
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As someone who is also 41, the internet wasn't a reliable source for news content until I was in my late teens so I can't imagine you didn't have a paper delivered to your house growing up unless your household just didn't read the news.
Edit: This is not me belittling you or calling you a liar or anything, just that — if true — you are a heavy exception of our generation.
They hardly have a "monopoly" - they get 50% because companies are will to pay 50% to get the exposure. Any retail seller or news stand gets 50% mark up on publications. It's how the business works. Fair is what the business is willing to pay. Not something someone who knows nothing about the industry "thinks" it should be.
I never said my parents didn’t have a newspaper delivered to their house when I was a kid. I even referred to, in another post in this thread, my mom still getting a newspaper delivered daily to her house. I said that I’ve never had a newspaper delivered to MY house. From the moment I moved out of my parents house, I’ve never had a newspaper delivered. Never had one in my name. Never paid for one.
My main point is I think a lot of this is generation based. Physical newspaper sales are in massive decline. Maybe an all in Apple subscription is the answer. I just can’t see many early 40’s and down rushing out to subscribe to a newspaper even in digital format. But I’ve been wrong before.
By the way, I didn’t take your comment as belittling or calling me a lier. But that’s for making sure.
The average newsstand, private or chain, has been getting $1 per $2 newspaper sold since forever - that is 50% for the vendor. And, the stock is on contingency.
The digital world would work something that gets them similar remuneration per day or year, eventually. The printing costs and physical transport of the media is gone, nearly no vendor involved. Their reader base is even more wide than they ever garnered. Ads are a nuisance, they were a choice with print media. The click bait nature is frustrating - a thing that was not an issue before, but there was hawking with misleading tagline that lured users.
A lot of young people who grew up on Napster and Limewire had never purchased music either. iTunes changed that by offering a reasonable price per track and later Apple Music in offering a very good monthly subscription price for access to millions of tracks.
Apple is no doubt aware of subscription fatigue. I expect them to offer an all inclusive Apple Subscription for Music + TV + News. If it's too much, few people will subscribe. If the price is around $25/month or even $19.99/month, I can absolutely see hundreds of millions of people seeing it as a no brainer and Apple making up for the lower price in volume.
I am going to indirectly agree with you. Apple can include this if they wish, but, but...
...We. Shall Be. Able. To. Delete. Preinstalled. iOS. Apps!!!
There is no need to forbid us to do so! Even on iOS you can delete them (or at least hide them).
Granted I am not gonna upgrade to Mojave anytime soon because of iTunes 12.6.3, this Apple news thing looks a bit promising for me if I can pay a decent enough monthly fee to read news from not just one source.
I hope UK and Australia at least are included at launch.
I subscribe to Texture. Some pretty amazing deals given that I previously subscribed to GQ, Nat Geo, Popular Science and Ad Week individually which were more than $9.99 for just a pair of those. If they're adding the Washington Post that subscription is $10/month all by itself.
I never said my parents didn’t have a newspaper delivered to their house when I was a kid. I even referred to, in another post in this thread, my mom still getting a newspaper delivered daily to her house. I said that I’ve never had a newspaper delivered to MY house. From the moment I moved out of my parents house, I’ve never had a newspaper delivered. Never had one in my name. Never paid for one.
My main point is I think a lot of this is generation based. Physical newspaper sales are in massive decline. Maybe an all in Apple subscription is the answer. I just can’t see many early 40’s and down rushing out to subscribe to a newspaper even in digital format. But I’ve been wrong before.
By the way, I didn’t take your comment as belittling or calling me a lier. But that’s for making sure.
Re: paper at home — My mistake, I misunderstood. That is very fair. I stopped getting the paper when I was 30 myself but kept the digital subscription.
Re: Making sure — decorum is best in forums like this. People can be sensitive when the tone is hard to gauge.
Well, for the record my post wasn’t extremely clear without the context of my other post. I see how someone could read it the way you did.
Here is the story from today. https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/11/inconvenient/ Wikipedia has a page devoted to the issue. My point is: once caught censoring expect that customers distrust your impartiality. I am a major shareholder and self-admitted Apple fanboy.
I was so old school that I never used Napster or Limewire. I’ve heard of Napster because Metallica made the news about them. I don’t know anything about Limewire though. I just bought the physical CD’s. When the iPhone came out I imported the CD’s from my MacBook to my phone. I bought some individual songs on iTunes. I currently have the family subscription for Apple Music. Admittedly I’m probably not like the majority, I’ve been living in the Silicon Valley for the last 20 years. I’m all for digital. Unfortunately, in my opinion, the free with adds model has made many people a lot less likely to subscribe to some things.
Rather than pay for news, I think of it as paying to help fund the creation of future news.
News has no economic value, but it nevertheless costs money to produce, and that’s what we are helping to support with our money.
The daily signal is an extremely biased right wing site. The article doesn't have any facts at all. Just a whole lot of assumptions. We need facts and not the speculation of one disgruntled app developer. If apple didn't approve/removed the app i'm sure it's because it violated the app store guidelines. More information is needed before jumping to conclusions.
Here's a media bias guide, it ranks vertically by news to opinion and then left to right based upon bias. https://www.adfontesmedia.com/
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