But this report doesn't say anything about holding new versions of Android to manufacturers.
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But this report doesn't say anything about holding new versions of Android to manufacturers.
You know that this report is only a rumor that has been proved false, don't you?
Considering the fact that it's 30% less than the Galaxy Nexus, yes, I very much CAN say they aren't overpriced. Also, considering the great value retention for resale, and the build quality and low failure rate, there's pretty much NO way you can win this one.
It will be interesting to see how the reality pans out. They are going to have to deal with a lot of different hardware configurations and I smell "bloat" and "bugs" around the corner. Of course... as they say, "if hardware allows".
There's a lot of cats to herd in their list. It will be an interesting problem to watch them solve.
That's an announcement from May you're commenting on. It was a PR move. Nothing came out of it, nothing ever will.
There are quite a few articles out about it. I guess some don't mention about it. The one I linked does:
I'm not includeing the $99.00 tablets which probably most do come from China. I do like the Kindle Fire at $199.00. At times I wish it did have more traditional Android based OS on it though.
You're not talking about the fragmentation issues. Honeycomb was held back because the phone portion of the code was not up to par. They didn't want unlicensed "Honeycomb" Android phone devices.
It has nothing to do with fragmentation on Android. You're mixing up the 2 issues and reports.
Look, it's ok that you're not well versed in the Android universe. You're not interested in it and that's fine. But why are you commenting on it then ?
And this part is false
ICS has been released just after the Galaxy Nexus started to sell
But again, I'm not disputing the "cheaper" side. I'm disputing your claim that similar hardware to iPad is being sold for more by the competition. I'm still waiting on these "more expensive" tablets that are made to compete with the iPad (please don't show me a HP Slate 500 with a full blown Windows installation on it...).
So you are saying the issue is MS for making a crappy OS and not the hardware manufacturers. Well go blame MS for this. . . oh what we already do.
it's not really a level playing field. People compare dell and co to Apple. When really it is (Dell and co + MS) (hardware + OS) vs Apple (hardware + software all in one). trying to negotiate through all the different Windows versions and trying to justify their cost is interesting to say the least.
So it seems that MS is the weak link here and not the hardware makers.
Seems as though they need to do something to fix this, but the plan outlined in their PR effort seems very lofty. Too many players to coordinate and I'm sure restrictions would have to be imposed by Google to make sure updates could be better managed. In all, it seems lofty and risky. Not surprising it's gone no where or it's taking much longer than expected.
Very hard to let the dogs loose first, and then tell them to all line up and play by the same rules.
Or, you're just comparing the hardware because you don't have to run Microsoft's stuff.
With a straight face, Apple products are not overpriced. You just don't understand how to do proper comparison shopping.
Of course, Apple also stretches the lifetime of their products and near the end close to a refresh, they tend to be on the expensive side of the competition. But when you compare Apple products to the competition nearer a refresh, you tend to see they are market priced for features offered.
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Actually, other tablets are same/greater hardware sold at the same Apple prices. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is the same price and offers the same hardware quality as Apple's offering. Same for the Xoom.
Of course, you need to remove the Apple colored glasses to see it first.
except when anand runs benchmarks the ipad always wins because brand x always cheapens out somewhere. the best one yet is a lot of people complaining how the GPS is not working on the new transformer prime
Only in the eyes of the Apple community it seems and some techier circles. Again, Android does not require OS updates like iOS does. Stock applications are upgraded outside of OS updates, something Apple just doesn't do.
It's a different platform with different rules. It's built to be fragmentation resilient. Fragmentation is a PR/media issue for Android. Hence, the PR/media solution outlined in May that will never actually result in a technical solution.
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The iPad wins benchmarks because the A5's SGX543MP2 is the most advanced GPU in use currently in all the different SoCs. It matters for 3D gaming. For pure CPU benchmarks, the A5's Cortex A9 dual core isn't faster than other stuff.
And iPads/iPhones have had issues with their hardware not being perfect out of the gate, so frankly, bringing up hardware issues is quite ludicrous. These are electronics, they will have issues. Sky is blue.
I think its due to the hardware, software or both.
I don't play games on tablet devices or video for that matter. If a device is lagging just by scrolling trough some text, then its a problem.
yep
1GHz A5 benches right about what 1.5GHz qualcomm and other CPU's bench at. just like the old P4 CPU's running at 4GHz and AMD performing faster at half the GHz
and with ICS being optimized for TI's OMAP and x86 i'm waiting to see what everything else will run on it once Samsung and everyone else will upgrade their 2011 phones to ICS. Sony already said that their HAL was optimized for qualcomm snapdragon and they have to write a new one for ICS to upgrade their Experia line and the playstation phones whatever they are called
Numbers and graphs
If I sold 1 device last month and I sell 400 this Christmas, holly crap I get a growth of 400% !!!!!!!!!
It's amazing!
Nope, I only sold 400 units.
I'm not saying Android's bad or anything, but seriously let's steer clear off the number fudgers please.
If I sold 1 device last month and I sell 400 this Christmas, holly crap I get a growth of 400% !!!!!!!!!
It's amazing!
Nope, I only sold 400 units.
I'm not saying Android's bad or anything, but seriously let's steer clear off the number fudgers please.
Citation needed. Can't find anything outside of GLBenchmark (which is a GPU test). The Sunspider initial benchmarks of iOS 5 vs 2.3.4 on the SGS II were disproven :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Ss3jdv7sw
The A5, on the CPU side, is nothing really special compared to the Exynos 4210. It's really on the GPU side that it shines. It's not at all like your example of AMD's vs Intel's performance.
Surprised to see that so many people are confused that Kindles and Nooks are not part of the Android ecosystem. Take the HP touchpad for example. It was sold with webos but it was hacked to run Android. Does that make the HP touchpad a Google Android device? No it doesnt. And if you somehow hacked iOS on a Android phone does that make it an iOS device? No it doesnt. Just because the device was hacked to make them run unofficial code does not automatically make them switch sides. Basically Amazon and Barnes and Noble took Gingerbread and modified it heavily to make their own operating system run their own app stores. Kindle Fires and Nook Tablets were never meant to run the Android market officially and will not be blessed to do so. Heck, anyone can take a Google operating system and modify the crap out of it. But it will never count towards Android numbers unless you meet certain requirements.
So its,
Apple vs Google vs Amazon vs Barnes and Noble
Not,
Apple vs (Google +Amazon+Barnes and Noble)
Google does not get any money from Kindle or Nook sales or any revenue from their respective app stores.
And the reason ipod touch did so well was because many locations such as Amazon, Bestbuy and Target were offering good deals with discounts or gift cards during Black Friday. I got my ipod touch with a $40 Target gift card. Bestbuy was doing a $50 gift card. I just dont see a $450 to $500 ipad beating out a $150 to $160 ipod touch even if its older hardware. You still get the iOS experience but for fractions less . And remember, ipad is due for a refresh in 2 to 3 months. It would be silly to buy one today at full retail. I would have buyers remorse.
So its,
Apple vs Google vs Amazon vs Barnes and Noble
Not,
Apple vs (Google +Amazon+Barnes and Noble)
Google does not get any money from Kindle or Nook sales or any revenue from their respective app stores.
And the reason ipod touch did so well was because many locations such as Amazon, Bestbuy and Target were offering good deals with discounts or gift cards during Black Friday. I got my ipod touch with a $40 Target gift card. Bestbuy was doing a $50 gift card. I just dont see a $450 to $500 ipad beating out a $150 to $160 ipod touch even if its older hardware. You still get the iOS experience but for fractions less . And remember, ipad is due for a refresh in 2 to 3 months. It would be silly to buy one today at full retail. I would have buyers remorse.
You really think the number of Apple Stores has an influence? I really don't think so, at least in Germany. In the US for sure because they have so many or even in the UK but 8 Stores?