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MacNut said:
Why is this thread still here? It has nothing to do with mac hardware, plus it has gotten off of the topic in general.

Perhaps, if you notified a moderator to move it to Community Discussion instead of spamming...
 
makisushi said:
American Cars, Japanese cars, Korean Cars.... WHO CARES


German Cars RULE!

Love my VW! Several hundred thousand miles and I still get 51mpg along with a terrific airconditioning/heating system...and not one body rattle!

(Don't know if is is technically still German: it was actually built in Puebla, Mexico...)
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
To be honest, with him being the "snow belt" there may reason that the mufflers wear out that quickly. Here in the DC area most of us get 60K on a muffler if not more.

But you are right, that does not mean that Toyota builds a bad car. In most other ways they stand way better than most American cars.

Interesting...my Jetta has over 210,000 miles on the original muffler - in four seasons in Minnesota! Hmmm...
 
AliensAreFuzzy said:
I heard those really suck for reliability, not very Subaru-like.

Well, knock on wood. I am coming on the end of the first year. Not one issue. Unlike my Ford '97 Ranger (3 trips for stuff that should not have happened), or the '99 Beetle (7 trips in the first year).
 
homerjward said:
actually they were donated by gm as a pr stunt

...and the news today is that each one of the "winners" will need to cough up a maximum of $7000 (depending on their tax bracket) to pay for the Federal and gov't taxes for each of these $28,000 vehicles.

What a wakeup call. I'd rather sell the car and turn around and pick up a nice 67/68 Mustang fastback, put the rest of the money into a restoration fund and have a car that REALLY turns heads!
 
Black&Tan said:
...and the news today is that each one of the "winners" will need to cough up a maximum of $7000 (depending on their tax bracket) to pay for the Federal and gov't taxes for each of these $28,000 vehicles.

What a wakeup call. I'd rather sell the car and turn around and pick up a nice 67/68 Mustang fastback, put the rest of the money into a restoration fund and have a car that REALLY turns heads!

Can you provide a link? The initial word in another thread was that GM/Pontiac was picking up the taxes also. If not that is a bummer for these people, though I would hope that some bank would give them a low interest loan for the taxes. Far less than what I pay in car payments.
 
Black&Tan said:

Thanks, this is disappointing. First is that a smart buyer could get the $28,000 car for about $25,000. A small savings in taxes, but a savings none the less. More simply we are talking about $2 million in taxes. Between Oprah and GM, this is a drop in the bucket for people that "needed" a car.

Other than that, GM could have given them base G6's and paid the taxes on that - and not spend any more on the fully loaded models.

Hope this gives Oprah and GM a well deserved black eye.
 
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