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HomePod 15 Beta Software Adds Lossless Audio Support
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really, I don't see that at all. What application are you having problems with Spotify (LOL, they really do need to get some programmers)? So seeing the problem is not from Quicktime, AppleMusic, iTunes, ...... have you considered it is the source you are using? BTW: I have been using lossless from my AppleTV for awhile yet both stereo pairs of HomePods and HomePod minis without any issues whatsoever. So.......
Siri works great. Don’t be asking esoteric questions and you won’t have to pretend how disappointed you are with Siri. Every time I ask Siri to do something or search for something I’d hazard a guess Siri does what it does correctly 95% of the time. Very few times do I get an answer that I don’t want
Well a broken clock is correct twice a day. You must be the lucky one.
That’s the reason I do use the betas. They’re equally as unstable as the released version, I get to try out the new features, and I can easily report bugs that hopefully will be fixed 🤞
It’s not, actually. Homepods have Wifi, Airpods and Airpods Max do not, so they are limited to Bluetooth, which is incapable of Lossless.
I confirm other users’ claim that lossless has NOT been restored with the third beta. It was present on beta 1, vanished on 2, and remains nowhere to be seen on v3. I tried rebooting all components and still, no lossless toggle.
Looks like one rogue AP news source pulled a fast one and all the rest copied and pasted—sadly, in all cases, without a fact check. 🤷🏻♂️
Looks like one rogue AP news source pulled a fast one and all the rest copied and pasted—sadly, in all cases, without a fact check. 🤷🏻♂️
Most people are aware of the precarious nature of SOME beta software...and the possible need following for a necessary system re-install. But, no one expects software to brick or destroy their components with (as of now) no real recourse for repair.
A broken 24 hour clock is only right once a day. My experience with Siri on HomePod is pretty mixed.
Careful! This appears to be widespread..I have unplugged both of mine. Apple may eventually offer some recourse to users regardless of warranty status. If you open it you may void any chance of having them fix/replace/offer coupon etc.
Well, I'm not seeing any indication of lossless in the Home app. Yet if I play Apple Music directly on my HomePod, I can see what is playing in Apple Music either in iOS or MacOS, there is a little lossless icon, click it under either and it shows lossless 24 bit 48khz ALAC. You cn also select the Audio Quality Settings which takes you to the Mac or iOS Apple Music Settings.
Sounds like your Wifi is a problem, too much interference or too many devices. Mine works fine with HomePod stereo pair and HomePod mini stereo pair. But then again this article is about direct play of Apple Music lossless, so if you are having connectivity issues it definitely has something todo with wifi
I agree, sounds like people either have really bad wifi, lots of interference, or want to create a false narrative. I have 0 problems with HomePod mini and homepod stereo pairs (well I do have a problem when the wifi goes out, but al the devices are impacted then). Either playing direct or using Airplay. I use Airplay from AppleTVs quite a bit. Flawless.
Of course if people are having trouble with Spotify or YouTube music - that is not Apple's problem. I do admit I hav to close the Youtube app on the appleTV sometimes not even that I'm big it, but my son-in-law uses it and it is not very good, craps up the works. Oh well - google
100% agree. I have zero issues with my HP's and HPM's in stereo mode.
Up your WiFi game people!
Playing it and playing it well are two different things. There's only so much you can push out of that little speaker...
Got a call booked with them, will be telling them that it stopped working and I smelt burning, so out of an abundance of caution I unplugged it and I was concerned that it could have burnt my house down if I was not in. That should spur some action.
I'm not complaining but Apple should support this day one the lossless launched. For a company pride itself in software and hardware integration this is inexplainable.
And today we still don't have any AirPods that support lossless.
That said, I'm a happy Apple Music user listening to lossless and spatial audio all day long.
That person doesn't have one and very unlikely they own anything Apple. Theirs is a, ahem, ummm, higher purpose.
Superslueth!!
How is this article wrong? It clearly states "it appears that the update introduces Lossless Audio support for the HomePod and the HomePod mini." it appears doesn't necessarily means it IS there, maybe something in Apple's released log file or mention of this Beta says about Lossless being introduced, not supported (never mind even fully or partially to some expectation), just 'introduced. Kinda like Apple introduces the iPhone, any Mac but it's not shipping or able to be purchased or take home 'same day'. We can see pictures or the product placement in a video but not first hands-on even in the store. This article also states available later this year, which to me means - don't bother even dreaming about it as we're in the 6th month of the year so 'later this year' is end of the year. Just my take on this.
I mean, you can’t play lossless over Bluetooth….. so the only way to play it is if the phone transcodes the files on the fly. It’s not a difficult process and already happens (as an example) when you watch videos online.
I’m not sure why it’s hiccuping through your car, but it’s got to be on the iPhone end rather than the car end if it’s only on lossless songs.
Okay but Homepods already do Dolby Atmos. and Lossless will eventually come.
Yea, you’re looking at the source audio.
Ummm, read the headline. There is nothing left to interpretation. I called out the fact the headline indicated a definitive stance which was contradicted quickly by the articles contents.
And no. There were, as usual, no release notes. (Not that Macrumors would have included them anyways.)
Also, that’s a horrible comparison. You don’t release an article without at least attempting to source or fact check. Whatever you may think, it literally took me 10 minutes after installing Beta 3 to start a log, stream various audio at varying quality, with and without Apple TV and toggling different settings, to then pull the log and confirm Homepods are still using AAC. That’s me. If Macrumors can’t even be bothered to write their own content, that’s fine. But to piggyback of another sites “rumours” and not fact-check anything, full knowing users (Like myself, until today) rely on the site as a source for news about new features for their Mac devices- is just disappointing.
However you want to spin it, the article headline is misleading, and it’s false. Software did not introduce Lossless support. It did not introduce that any user would interpret as increasing the likelihood of Lossless.
I would expect Macrumors to just issue a correction this was incorrect, and they will approach with caution in the future when hijacking rumours from other sites. Or just label it as such.