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how about fixing the HUB utilizations? HomeKit automations? OK its a speaker, so fix it to let Siri access our music on our Macs without the albatross that is Music?
Home Sharing has been barely touched in years and is quite buried. You’re likely SOL.

Your only option (Sans Apple Music) is iTunes in the cloud/iTunes match. It’s also been basically buried for years, but the tech is closely tied into an Apple Music subscription so at least they keep it up to date for that.

If you have low quality rips, you can bump them the 256kb aac on the bright side.
 
There must be a new and improved HomePod coming. Can’t imagine they would update the software to include Dolby Atmos and some sort of lossless for a product nobody can purchase.
Sure they would. The fact they canned the product is exceptional and frankly…. The engineers would of put in a **** tonne of work to get Atmos support into the HomePod and by the timing of things was just about ready by the time they killed the product.

The engineers would be PISSED if all that work was tossed aside when they were at the finish line, and frankly… it wouldn’t look good on Apple if they abandoned the product immediately.

I’m sure there will be a follow up…. And I’m sure it’s going to be the main focus once it’s out…. But for this transition period at least Apple is gonna do HomePod owners a solid.
 
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This may be an odd place to ask this question, but has anyone had issues with playing the new lossless audio songs over car bluetooth speakers? My 2014 Toyota Corolla apparently doesn't like lossless audio and songs will just stop after a few seconds of playing it, so I had to switch back to downloading normal audio songs so that I can actually play them through my car. Not sure If the bluetooth in my car can be updated to support the new audio or if I have to upgrade it somehow.
I noticed the same thing on my Rav4 as well and my new 4K Apple TV there is definitely a bug.
 
Okay but Homepods already do Dolby Atmos. and Lossless will eventually come.

Yea, you’re looking at the source audio.

Ummm, read the headline. There is nothing left to interpretation. I called out the fact the headline indicated a definitive stance which was contradicted quickly by the articles contents.

And no. There were, as usual, no release notes. (Not that Macrumors would have included them anyways.)

Also, that’s a horrible comparison. You don’t release an article without at least attempting to source or fact check. Whatever you may think, it literally took me 10 minutes after installing Beta 3 to start a log, stream various audio at varying quality, with and without Apple TV and toggling different settings, to then pull the log and confirm Homepods are still using AAC. That’s me. If Macrumors can’t even be bothered to write their own content, that’s fine. But to piggyback of another sites “rumours” and not fact-check anything, full knowing users (Like myself, until today) rely on the site as a source for news about new features for their Mac devices- is just disappointing.

However you want to spin it, the article headline is misleading, and it’s false. Software did not introduce Lossless support. It did not introduce that any user would interpret as increasing the likelihood of Lossless.

I would expect Macrumors to just issue a correction this was incorrect, and they will approach with caution in the future when hijacking rumours from other sites. Or just label it as such.

i can’t argue that!

but I’m sure someone at macrumors editorial is sounding like James Jonah Jamieson right now with “a retraction? Retraction!!??? I haven’t written a retraction in over 30yrs!”
 
Home Sharing has been barely touched in years and is quite buried. You’re likely SOL.

Your only option (Sans Apple Music) is iTunes in the cloud/iTunes match. It’s also been basically buried for years, but the tech is closely tied into an Apple Music subscription so at least they keep it up to date for that.

If you have low quality rips, you can bump them the 256kb aac on the bright side.

Well thats exactly what I want to avoid, I don't want any subscriptions. Ive been with Mac for 32+ yrs, I just want to use my Mac and my files without paying a 'subscription tax' for the privilege or access to features.

IMHO 'lets make it a subscription service' evolution in the digital world is the worst thing that could happen to the user.

and Yes, we're all SOL ;)
 
I agree, sounds like people either have really bad wifi, lots of interference, or want to create a false narrative. I have 0 problems with HomePod mini and homepod stereo pairs (well I do have a problem when the wifi goes out, but al the devices are impacted then). Either playing direct or using Airplay. I use Airplay from AppleTVs quite a bit. Flawless.

Of course if people are having trouble with Spotify or YouTube music - that is not Apple's problem. I do admit I hav to close the Youtube app on the appleTV sometimes not even that I'm big it, but my son-in-law uses it and it is not very good, craps up the works. Oh well - google

Same here. Never with mine.
 
I noticed the same thing on my Rav4 as well and my new 4K Apple TV there is definitely a bug.
I've noticed the same thing on my iPhone, via AirPods Pro, even with Lossless/Dolby and Spatial turned off! (There is a thread concerning this on the Forum). Many have tried to figure it out with many toggle etc. permutations but to no avail. Music stops after 10-15 secs. With me, it seems to be music downloaded to the iPhone via Shazam. BUT: after Spatial/Dolby/Lossless were first released songs played normally for about a week or so....?! Haven't been able to figure it out and guess that its a bug that Apple (may) be aware of about now. Also many questions concerning this issue on the Apple Support Forums...again with no permanent resolution.
 
i can’t argue that!

but I’m sure someone at macrumors editorial is sounding like James Jonah Jamieson right now with “a retraction? Retraction!!??? I haven’t written a retraction in over 30yrs!”
LOLLLL, okay you made me laugh then tho
 
I’m quite sure nobody will be able to hear the difference with lossless on the HomePod. Thats the reason they didn’t include it. But because of the backlash they’re adding it anyway. It’s just going to cause massive streaming files waisted on your ears.

Now go and fix the overheating issue, Apple! My homepods on 14.6 are getting hot.
 
If they are getting hot (as opposed to just warm), it would be in your best interest to unplug until the next update. Also try turning off Siri and Intercom.
I did. But that just illustrates what a mess this has become. Unplugging your speakers until an update comes out. Come on!

and then there’s Apple not acknowledging the issue, possibly unable to replace broken units as they discontinued the product, no next generation HomePod on the horizon (possibly years away if at all), … the only sane conclusion is to switch to a brand that takes smart homes ans home cinema more seriously, like Sonos.
 
I did. But that just illustrates what a mess this has become. Unplugging your speakers until an update comes out. Come on!

and then there’s Apple not acknowledging the issue, possibly unable to replace broken units as they discontinued the product, no next generation HomePod on the horizon (possibly years away if at all), … the only sane conclusion is to switch to a brand that takes smart homes ans home cinema more seriously, like Sonos.

Apple is doomed! Again.

Switch to Sonos and find true happiness. Stat!
 
Wired Airpods Max is probably the only Apple gear where lossless might've made a difference but it looks like Apple screwed that one up badly. HomePods sound amazing for $300 speakers but I doubt lossless will make an iota of difference. It's also too bad Apple discontinued them because I thought it was their best audio gear.
 
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I confirm other users’ claim that lossless has NOT been restored with the third beta. It was present on beta 1, vanished on 2, and remains nowhere to be seen on v3. I tried rebooting all components and still, no lossless toggle.

Looks like one rogue AP news source pulled a fast one and all the rest copied and pasted—sadly, in all cases, without a fact check. 🤷🏻‍♂️
This trend is annoying and worrisome. Maybe there’s the will to get a free pass because it’s “rumors” and not “news”.
I would rather the article be transparent and go along the lines: “we saw this piece, we tried with these steps and it worked”, or if it didn’t, “but it didn’t work, so, we will update when we have more news. Feel free to throw in any comments”. Or throw a poll in there, “are you in the beta 3 and got a lossless toggle on homepods?”
 
Apple is doomed! Again.

Switch to Sonos and find true happiness. Stat!
My Apple stock tells me otherwise.

Look, if you think Apple is on the right track with its HomePod line-up and it's going to pull in customers that want to invest in a smart home or home cinema system, good for you.
 
Wired Airpods Max is probably the only Apple gear where lossless might've made a difference but it looks like Apple screwed that one up badly. HomePods sound amazing for $300 speakers but I doubt lossless will make an iota of difference. It's also too bad Apple discontinued them because I thought it was their best audio gear.
Wow, I’ve never thought I’d find someone thinking just like me. Apple knows for a couple of years at least that lossless Apple Music was coming why don’t they add a wire port to AirPods Max? Yes, I know they want to push spatial audio but it’s better to cover everything especially with product at this price. Talks about a fail in design.
 
What’s wrong with HomePod mini in a smart home?
With the hardware nothing. With the software a lot. Besides the well known and documented frustration of dealing with Siri, there’s the limitations of HomeKit including few device categories, limited choice of compatible third party hardware, a crappy Home app, reliability issues, limited feedback when something goes wrong, lack of support for many common automation scenarios, ….

Apple is following the pack, definitely not leading it.
 
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With the hardware nothing. With the software a lot. Besides the well known and documented frustration of dealing with Siri, there’s the limitations of HomeKit including few device categories, limited choice of compatible third party hardware, a crappy Home app, reliability issues, limited feedback when something goes wrong, lack of support for many common automation scenarios, ….

Apple is following the pack, definitely not leading it.
Hmm.. somebody has different experience it seems

I’m using HomeKit and I haven’t found any (big) issue so far. I guess every platforms have their own issues. Yes, Amazon might have more smart devices to choose from but HomeKit ain’t bad at all.
 
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