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I have a five channel Martin Logan Electro Static System plus a subwoofer....this is fine for teens but it will never replace a truly high fidelity system.
And in related news, my Lamborghini is way faster and corners better than your Prius, so your Prius is only suitable for children. Is this really a surprise to you, or did you just want to mention your Martin Logans?

It would be amusing to see a picture of precisely $350 worth of your Martin Logan setup. That'd be, what, the left rear surround speaker and four feet of speaker wire?
 
Although I have a decent Onkyo system, it's bluetooth connection to my phone isn't very good. I have to turn the volume up fairly loud just to hear it well and then it just gets distorted. I was planning on buying a portable speaker , but I may hold off and buy this instead. My house isn't very large and I think this may be the best option for me. We'll see in December.
 
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If you have a Sonos playbar or Play 5 you can use a line-in connection to play audio directly from your device. Another thing that works which I have done is created a folder on my desktop that I added to the Sonos app as a music library where I can drop audio files and play them on the Sonos system.

It probably will be a problem with Homepod. Although I haven't read a ton about i,t I think Apple is planning for it to work only with Apple Music library, meaning it will be even more locked-down than Sonos.
EDIT: To quote Mashable, "There is, though, an instant limit with the Apple HomePod: It's designed for Apple Music users. The app will stream content from your Apple Music library (which is in the cloud), but the app doesn't support any other music services. If you want to stream anything else, you can use another device and stream it to the speaker via AirPlay 2, which will arrive this fall in iOS 11. "

So with AirPlay 2 you should be able to stream anything that you can listen to on a Mac, iPhone, or iPad. That should make it more versatile than the higher end Sonos stuff and far more versatile than the entry level speakers (unless I'm missing something).
 
If you have a Sonos playbar or Play 5 you can use a line-in connection to play audio directly from your device. Another thing that works which I have done is created a folder on my desktop that I added to the Sonos app as a music library where I can drop audio files and play them on the Sonos system.

It probably will be a problem with Homepod. Although I haven't read a ton about i,t I think Apple is planning for it to work only with Apple Music library, meaning it will be even more locked-down than Sonos.
EDIT: To quote Mashable, "There is, though, an instant limit with the Apple HomePod: It's designed for Apple Music users. The app will stream content from your Apple Music library (which is in the cloud), but the app doesn't support any other music services. If you want to stream anything else, you can use another device and stream it to the speaker via AirPlay 2, which will arrive this fall in iOS 11. "

Yeah... I can't run a cable - it has to be wireless. Was just wondering if that problem was solved since the last time I checked a few years ago. Too bad Sonos still has that limitation...

I suspect HomePod will, if not now, eventually be able to stream any audio material from your computer as Apple has control over both hardware and system software.
 
I have a five channel Martin Logan Electro Static System plus a subwoofer....this is fine for teens but it will never replace a truly high fidelity system.

I doubt this is meant to compete with the calibre of your system. I wonder about things line time alignment and a cohesive wavefront from a good listening position between two pods or is a surround system is possible in the future (but $$$!).
 
Also Apple will no-doubt lock it down so you can only use Apple Music and not a combination of services like Sonos allows.
Please explain why. Seems a stupid move to me.
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Because people then say that the iPhone camera takes pictures almost as good as the DSLR.
On one thread I asked an experienced photographer not what is better, but how much you would have to spend to get a camera that is worth buying if you already have the latest iPhone (spending lots of money on something that is _a little bit_ better is not worth it), and I was told about $1,000 or so. To make it clear: That's the money that gets you something _a lot_ better.
 
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this!

I got 2x 2nd gen. Sonos Play:5. For me its hard to believe that HomePod will come even slightly close to the Play:5 2nd gen

Forget about comparing to Sonos. I want to know how this stacks up to something decent like my Zeppelin wireless or my older Zeppelin air. My Zeppelin wireless is the best sounding wireless speaker I’ve ever heard.
 
So with AirPlay 2 you should be able to stream anything that you can listen to on a Mac, iPhone, or iPad. That should make it more versatile than the higher end Sonos stuff and far more versatile than the entry level speakers (unless I'm missing something).
"Right now, the only music service that seems to be supported on HomePod directly is (unsurprisingly) Apple Music. And while it seems likely that you’ll be able to play music from another service to HomePod through the newly announced AirPlay 2 system, that’s still the weakest music support of any of the HomePod’s competitors, all of which support direct playback of services like Spotify, Pandora, and, in Sonos’ case, just about every music service ever made. It’s the same story on the other side of the divide, too — while HomePod supports Siri and HomeKit, it’s still as locked down as ever. Its abilities as a home assistant are limited to whatever Apple allows you to use it for, instead of the open platform that Amazon has made with Alexa Skills, or that Google would like to foster by allowing developers to build out things for Home."

- The Verge

Please explain why. Seems a stupid move to me.
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Apple wants more people to buy Apple Music. Spotify users who want this speaker will simply say "oh, well I guess I'll just start paying 10 bucks a month for Apple Music instead of Spotify."
 
I think you missed the point... HomePod is first and foremost, a great home speaker for the masses that requires no setup. It sounds great wherever you are. That's the magic; there's no waving of the speaker or using a smartphone to help set things up.

The "smart" in these smart speakers is still extremely limited (and frustrating) so you can spend $130, which for many, have become a very expensive alarm clock, or you can spend $350 on a great sounding speaker that you can enjoy for a decade or more. Over that time, the "smart" feature will get better in the background and maybe in 10 years it'll truly feel somewhat intelligent whereas the $130 speaker will still sound like crap in comparison.

No, I think you are missing the point. It is EASY to make a $350 speaker sound better than a $130 speaker. If the market responds to that, Amazon and Google will have a $350 speaker out the next week. It will sound just as good, have a better AI, and let you play something other than Apple Music.

Magical would be if Apple could make Siri not useless. 6 years and billions of dollars later: same useless Siri.
 
Yeah... I can't run a cable - it has to be wireless. Was just wondering if that problem was solved since the last time I checked a few years ago. Too bad Sonos still has that limitation...

I suspect HomePod will, if not now, eventually be able to stream any audio material from your computer as Apple has control over both hardware and system software.
Well you could use that second solution. I hope Sonos implements something into their app that allows audio playback from your device - I think they will if they want to compete.
 
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Magical would be if Apple could make Siri not useless. 6 years and billions of dollars later: same useless Siri.
Are you running iOS 11? Siri has had MASSIVE improvement behind the scenes utilizing AI learning. So I'm wondering if you're talking from experience....or if you're just griping because Apple didn't spoon feed the enhancements to you in the keynote?

Btw, the fact that siri can now answer follow up questions means that it has been revamped behind the scenes.
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The HomeKit hub is the Apple TV.
The HomePod functions as one as well. You get to choose.
 
airpods all over again...
people before purchase ..meeh too expensive they look weird
people after purchase...best, i love them, my new toy, apple magical experience
I mean, I think that's been the case with every new product since the ipod, iphone, ipad... "Touch keyboard? no buttons? Who wants THAT!? This thing will tank!"
For the record, I thought the airpods looked ridiculous on people when i first saw them. But now that i have them they're pretty much everything I've ever wanted in wireless earphones.
 
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The competition will just improve their speaker line up but for fraction of the cost. Once upon a time I wouldn't look at anything but Apple...not these days I'm more open minded and prefer flexibility where possible. Don't get me wrong I still love Apple eco system but there is another world out there lol
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And in related news, my Lamborghini is way faster and corners better than your Prius, so your Prius is only suitable for children. Is this really a surprise to you, or did you just want to mention your Martin Logans?

It would be amusing to see a picture of precisely $350 worth of your Martin Logan setup. That'd be, what, the left rear surround speaker and four feet of speaker wire?

no just the the wire lol
 
Apple wants more people to buy Apple Music. Spotify users who want this speaker will simply say "oh, well I guess I'll just start paying 10 bucks a month for Apple Music instead of Spotify."
Never go into marketing. You are talking about the tail trying to wag the dog. When you sell a $349 device, you first make that $349 device as valuable as possible for the customer, and then you sell a lot of them. Convincing potential customers to buy TWO new things is a losing proposition. When a customer walks into the store, first thing he asks is "can I use this HomePod to play all my music". When the answer is "No, you'll have to buy Apple Music", he walks straight out.
 
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I wish I was joking. I asked Siri to send a text. Got almost all of the words wrong, and screwed up the grammar. My LG G4 did a flawless job using OK Google. Siri is a never ending mess.
I so agree, Siri can't do a simple little text. a waste of time..Although, Siri on the watch is much better for some reason.
 
Never go into marketing. You are talking about the tail trying to wag the dog. When you sell a $349 device, you first make that $349 device as valuable as possible for the customer, and then you sell a lot of them. Convincing potential customers to buy TWO new things is a losing proposition. When a customer walks into the store, first thing he asks is "can I use this HomePod to play all my music". When the answer is "No, you'll have to buy Apple Music", he walks straight out.
I am in marketing :p And I'm not saying it's very smart of Apple, what Amazon does by making Alexa not only a speaker and virtual assistant, but also an Amazon shopping device that prioritizes Amazon private label and companies who pay them to list their product first, is WAY smarter. All I'm saying is Apple wants to integrate their products with each other and shut out competitors, as they always have. Amazon is creating a new type of omnichannel, while Apple is trying to create a high-margin money maker that promotes Apple Music and plays to their huge base of Apple Music subscribers.
 
Never go into marketing. You are talking about the tail trying to wag the dog. When you sell a $349 device, you first make that $349 device as valuable as possible for the customer, and then you sell a lot of them. Convincing potential customers to buy TWO new things is a losing proposition. When a customer walks into the store, first thing he asks is "can I use this HomePod to play all my music". When the answer is "No, you'll have to buy Apple Music", he walks straight out.
I have no interest in Apple Music, never will. That said, can you not just use the Pod as an airplay speaker?
 
I have no interest in Apple Music, never will. That said, can you not just use the Pod as an airplay speaker?
If they indeed add that capability. But, say you have a Spotify subscription. If you wanted to yell at Siri to play a song and you didn't have it purchased or weren't a subscriber to Apple Music, you couldn't do it. You'd have to get on your phone and go on Spotify, turn on your bluetooth, connect to the speaker on AirPlay and play it from your phone. So there goes a lot of the functionality. Users who initially bought the speaker planning on using their own library or app on their phone will discover they could unlock more functionality if they subscribed to Apple Music, and some will become subscribers. $$$ for Apple.
 
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If they indeed add that capability. But, say you have a Spotify subscription. If you wanted to yell at Siri to play a song and you didn't have it purchased or weren't a subscriber to Apple Music, you couldn't do it. You'd have to get on your phone and go on Spotify, turn on your bluetooth, connect to the speaker on AirPlay and play it from your phone. So there goes a lot of the functionality.
I don't have a spotify account, because I'll never subscribe for a streaming service. I get that would be a downside for some, but in my case I'm more excited about a kick ass small speaker.
 
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