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Yet, for the price of a HomePod, A Soundbar makes better sense. Yes, you loose some Apple integration features, but you get better sound.

Bingo. At the end of the day, what is a speaker for? To listen to audio, be it music, movies, tv, etc. If you can get better sound for cheaper, why not. Assuming folks have an iPhone, as far as we know, there is nothing that Homepod can do that an iPhone + better sound system can't do.
 
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Bingo. At the end of the day, what is a speaker for? To listen to audio, be it music, movies, tv, etc. If you can get better sound for cheaper, why not. Assuming folks have an iPhone, as far as we know, there is nothing that Homepod can do that an iPhone + better sound system can't do.

Don't get me wrong, I like my Apple stuff, but this HomePod I see no use for. I already have my Bose 5.1 Soundbar setup, much better sound and it connects to the TV, Mac/PC, iPad and iPhone easily.
 
Yes. You can do it now using the AudioBridge app.

If you want a better solution, Airplay2 is coming soon to Sonos.


With respect to huge limitations, will the Sonos One wirelessly play audio from the YouTube (or other video) I'm watching on my MBP?
 
My father-in-law bought me an Echo (2nd gen) for Christmas, and while it's a fine voice assistant, it absolutely sucks as a speaker. It also has a tendency to try to sell you things on amazon at every possible turn. I can't wait to replace it with the HomePod, and I think it will prove to be well worth the price.
 
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Go back to my post and let me know where I said it was stellar audio gear. What I said was it was affordable to place around the house for adequate audio AND whole-home voice control. I also said there are lot of great sounding wireless small speaker systems. HomePod isn't new to the concept. So the problem I see with HomePod is that only the most ardent Apple fanboys with AppleMusic subs are going to find it useful. It doesn't work for people that want an Apple Siri speaker network because it's too expensive for that purpose (and big too) & audiophiles are not going to be attracted to it.

So please tell me what market it's going to disrupt and why?
The smart speaker market because Apple makes better products than anyone.

Too expensive is relative. People like quality and music. When they hear it, they will want it.

People paid $300-$400 for Beats (more than a Homepod) and they aren't even good headphones.
 
I must say, when this was announced at WWDC, I was sort of meh about it. Thought it was overpriced compared to the Echo. But since then I've really gotten excited about it, since I've started listening to music a lot more. When they delayed it, I was actually disappointed, and now the hype is building.
I am glad HomePod made you listen to music :p
 
Enjoy your iPod HiFi, though.

The iPod HiFi was highly rated for its sound and definitely offered less at a similar price point. If HomePod sounds as good today as that did then, along with wireless access and AirPlay 2, I think a lot of people will be interested and pleased. Like me.

I do have high hopes for Siri improvements, but thats not really my primary reason for the purchase. More like a spotty added bonus.
 
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To me it comes down to this: is it only an attempt to sell more of their streaming music service or what I hope for will it play nicely with my collection I have in iTunes through Airplay from any iOS or macOS device? Couldn't care less about the voice assistance.
 
You’re joking right?

I have a dot in every room in my house. They are absolutely perfect. It’s not about the sound quality, it’s about being autonomous devices rather than being tied to an iPhone so that they just work in a home with a family. It’s also the fact that Alexa beats Siri in every aspect of functionality and user interface. I’m not pleased about not this (given I have iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Mac) but it’s true.

We've got the same thing with the Google Home Mini. And Google Assistant beats Alexa most days of the week, and twice on Sunday. And we're not tied to Amazon which is a great thing. The integrations with GHome are great and it can do as much as if not more than Alexa.
 
Tech journalists are just coming off CES 2018 with show floors flooded with cheap Alexas and Google Home. Comparing HomePod to those cheap devices makes no sense but it always happens with Apple. Now if someone would compare Google's Home Max to Apple's HomePod in a year's time, that would be useful but Google will never release those numbers and perhaps neither will Apple.

I don't see how Apple is competing in the same market as Google and Amazon here. HomePod is an in-home smart speaker. Google Home and Alexa are in-home smart spies. While I am pretty intrigued by the former, I just don't think I'm in the market for the latter.
 
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Yup. Pretty much DOA.
Quoted for future reference like Watch, AirPods, iPhone, etc.
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It's a fair criticism, but Apple isn't going to release this product without good Siri integration for its purposes. We don't know how well it will perform music tasks in particular or if there will be updates to Siri for improved commands with HomePod.

I honestly don't think Siri is nearly as bad as people make it sound here.
 
Apple is know for not being the first but when its out it takes over everything else, i just hope it works wel with Phillip hue and wemo switches
 
1 million units shipped initially not large? I consider it large. The fact it does not saturate the known demand and supply chain aside, one million of anything is officially large.

How many units did Apple sell in its first 5 years in business? How many iPhones in the first year? Perspective.

i do believe the first iPhone was 1 millions units in 70 days......

and here are sales from the get-go....

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-quarter-2007/
 
Interesting because I'd never buy that—unless Siri makes some HUGE improvements—because the Dot is all about the assistant. The HomePod is not.
Well I know. I wouldn’t pay $350 for an overpriced speaker. You can get a better quality speaker at an electronic store. There are many of us that don’t need anything more than an assistant like the dot.
 
My user scenario is quite similar And I will probably get one for our kitchen/dining room. Maybe also for the second floor if it is as good as it seems

I'll get one. I already own a "serious" stereo Hi-Fi. I'm curious to try the HomePod for casual listening and Siri. It isn't cheap. I'm confident that the sound quality will be good, though. Hope I'm not wrong.
 
You only get the HomePod if you don't know the Libratone Zipp exists. Which is portable. And has literally all the features the HomePod will.
 
I'm sure these will sell, but at $350 that is probably the top 1% of this market. Apple needs a ~$100 and a ~$50 little puck so they don't completely cede this baseline part of verbal cloud access infrastructure to Amazon and Google.

If they were thinking they'd marry the $100 one in with an updated version of the wifi routers they're abandoning or move to a mesh wifi design with the $50 puck's integrated so you have verbal access everywhere you have your mesh wifi's placed.
 
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The smart speaker market because Apple makes better products than anyone.

Too expensive is relative. People like quality and music. When they hear it, they will want it.

People paid $300-$400 for Beats (more than a Homepod) and they aren't even good headphones.


Right, you make my point for me or rephrase them,

1. Apple makes some products better than others, but it's history with speakers is limited. And there already exist lots of fantastic small wireless speakers.

2. Too expensive IS relative, but in this case relative IS: compared to it's competitors in the general smart speaker market.

3. Headphones are not a voice controlled speaker. Headphones are a personal, portable product intended to stay with one person wherever they go. The HomePod is neither. As I said before, HomePod is great IF you live in a one room studio apt. If you live in a 9 room house, then you need 3-4 or so HomePods -- $1200! The average consumer is not going to spend that much on smart speakers.
 
Question, not that anyone would actually know..but can I use this as a wifi/airplay speaker thru Apple TV to use as surround sound for a movie/show playing off the Apple TV (4) ?
Surround sound?? It's one speaker that radiates sounds in 360 degree. Unless Apple has Dolby/DTS processor inside, you won't get anything. Plus I don't know why people buy sound bar to experience surround sound. How is it even possible? I understand the ginmic of using sound reflection. But really?? A sound bar replaces 5 speakers??
 
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