Hong Kong iPhone X Orders

[Chancha]

The earliest listed shipping date for AOS order is Nov 18th, but so far no reports of shipment status changed (it would have changed to PFS, prepared for shipment, at which point the order cannot be canceled).

The speculation is that AOS orders, carrier supplies, and business accounts will all get one big shipment, probably is in the next few days.

The "street" price has been largely unchanged for this past week, with the most expensive 256GB Space Grey floating from 11,000 to 12,000. Only on Sunday that we saw more than half a minute of IR availability after 8am, every other morning it is straight nothing, or only few units 64GB White which gets snapped within seconds.

 

[midlevels]

Hong Kong iPhones are shipping with the Qualcomm modem whereas I've managed to get one from another country that has an Intel modem. Wondering now if that was a mistake...

 

[AnTiGoD]

Hong Kong iPhones are shipping with the Qualcomm modem whereas I've managed to get one from another country that has an Intel modem. Wondering now if that was a mistake...

Not sure about HK's network, but from what i've read in other topics, rural places where LTE (4G) coverage drops, in Asia, the phone will fall back on 3G/EDGE (CDMA in China) that's why in Asia the phone is offered by a1865.

a1865 will eventually also be the unlocked version in the USA (now exclusively sold as Verizon/Sprint version in the USA)

So the Qualcomm model is basically the "global phone" as it has both GSM and CDMA bands covered.

 

[wchigo]

Hong Kong iPhones are shipping with the Qualcomm modem whereas I've managed to get one from another country that has an Intel modem. Wondering now if that was a mistake...

May I ask where you were able to find this information? I'm rather curious then as to what modem is in my phone...

 

[Chancha]

May I ask where you were able to find this information? I'm rather curious then as to what modem is in my phone...

Not him, but I can answer:
among local HK owners of a new iPhone, every time the first thing they tested was which model chip it used, and also the make of the SSD. Pretty much everyone reported having a Qualcomm this time.

EDIT: wait, you meant to ask where to check YOUR phone? Settings > General > About > Legal > Regulatory

 

[AnTiGoD]

May I ask where you were able to find this information? I'm rather curious then as to what modem is in my phone...

Model A1865 = Qualcomm (GSM + CDMA)
Model A1901 = Intel (GSM)

That is basically how it works, there is a topic on here that goes into detail on the 2 versions.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...rizon-version-supports-both-gsm-cdma.2084185/

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ks-for-gsm-users.2084875/page-4#post-25455362

Model A1865 is basically the most wanted version by people for 2 reasons:
1.) Qualcomm modem
2.) GSM + CDMA, therefore the "global phone"

 

[wchigo]

Not him, but I can answer:
among local HK owners of a new iPhone, every time the first thing they tested was which model chip it used, and also the make of the SSD. Pretty much everyone reported having a Qualcomm this time.

Is there a thing you can do to test to see which one you have?

Actually, maybe that ain't such a good idea. Phone's been working great for the past 3 days I've been using it and digging into this stuff might just make me feel sad about potentially having the "inferior" version, so maybe it'd be best not to poke that hornet's nest...
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Not him, but I can answer:
among local HK owners of a new iPhone, every time the first thing they tested was which model chip it used, and also the make of the SSD. Pretty much everyone reported having a Qualcomm this time.

EDIT: wait, you meant to ask where to check YOUR phone? Settings > General > About > Legal > Regulatory

Ah, so that's where they buried it. I remember it just used to be on the back of the phone, lol. Cheers mate.

Model A1865 = Qualcomm (GSM + CDMA)
Model A1901 = Intel (GSM)

That is basically how it works, there is a topic on here that goes into detail on the 2 versions.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...rizon-version-supports-both-gsm-cdma.2084185/

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ks-for-gsm-users.2084875/page-4#post-25455362

Model A1865 is basically the most wanted version by people for 2 reasons:
1.) Qualcomm modem
2.) GSM + CDMA, therefore the "global phone"

Oh, ok. I'll dig into those threads a little later on maybe. Theoretically, shouldn't all iPhones from HK and mainland China be the A1865 version as they support both GSM and CDMA?

 

[AnTiGoD]

Oh, ok. I'll dig into those threads a little later on maybe. Theoretically, shouldn't all iPhones from HK and mainland China be the A1865 version as they support both GSM and CDMA?

Correct, Hong Kong and Mainland China are offering the A1865 model.

 

[Chancha]

In general, only a certain type of user should worry about the modem make, IMO particularly these 2:
1) Global business travelers, for obvious reasons
2) US or Mainland China rural traveler, where carrier specs fragmentation has been chaotic, and there is a huge disparity of such between cities and country sides

If you spend most of your time in one city then the local iPhone version of its modem is typically already as optimized as it is.
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Ah, so that's where they buried it. I remember it just used to be on the back of the phone, lol. Cheers mate.

My theory as to why they don't print it at the back anymore: bean counter Tim Cook would like to save even the slightest buck in standardizing all the back case engraves/print. I remember seeing a macrumors post on how they went through the legal hurdles to make that happen, to only print their logo and then hide all the legal **** inside the OS.

 

[AnTiGoD]

In general, only a certain type of user should worry about the modem make, IMO particularly these 2:
1) Global business travelers, for obvious reasons
2) US or Mainland China rural traveler, where carrier specs fragmentation has been chaotic, and there is a huge disparity of such between cities and country sides

If you spend most of your time in one city then the local iPhone version of its modem is typically already as optimized as it is.

Most of the people still prefer the Qualcomm version due to it having "better battery life", "better reception", such things.

Intel has closed the gap to Qualcomm quite a bit, but isn't fully there yet tho.

 

[wchigo]

In general, only a certain type of user should worry about the modem make, IMO particularly these 2:
1) Global business travelers, for obvious reasons
2) US or Mainland China rural traveler, where carrier specs fragmentation has been chaotic, and there is a huge disparity of such between cities and country sides

If you spend most of your time in one city then the local iPhone version of its modem is typically already as optimized as it is.

It is a bit of a factor for me. I do travel back home to Canada at least once a year, and sometimes travel to other countries for leisure, so compatibility is a consideration. In the past, I have looked into buying my iPhone in Canada and bringing it back with me when I return to China, only to discover that the Canadian version doesn't support China Mobile's 4G band, so a major aspect of my phone's utility would be nullified.

It's why I've usually bought my phone in HK but this year I think I got a mainland version which isn't an issue since the two versions are identical.

 

[midlevels]

May I ask where you were able to find this information? I'm rather curious then as to what modem is in my phone...

In addition to what others have posted, here's a good summary table:

https://www.techwalls.com/iphone-x-models-a1865-a1901-a1902-differences/
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In general, only a certain type of user should worry about the modem make, IMO particularly these 2:
1) Global business travelers, for obvious reasons

I see where this is coming from, but it's worth noting that any iPhone 8/X sold in Europe and most of SE Asia other than HK/China has an Intel model that doesn't support CDMA, and there are certainly many "global business travellers" in these regions so I would have to assume that the Intel modem variant does work in all countries to some extent, even if perhaps some particular bands that the Qualcomm modem supports don't work.

Else anyone from Europe or Singapore for example travelling to China or Japan say would not be able to roam using an iPhone, which is obviously not the case.

 

[haruhiko]

Thanks very much for the info. Glad that the HK version is the true international one.

 

[Chancha]

HK/China has an Intel model that doesn't support CDMA, and there are certainly many "global business travellers" in these regions so I would have to assume that the Intel modem variant does work in all countries to some extent, even if perhaps some particular bands that the Qualcomm modem supports don't work.

Else anyone from Europe or Singapore for example travelling to China or Japan say would not be able to roam using an iPhone, which is obviously not the case.

"How many bands is enough" is a very hard question to answer, the needs and environments for every given individual is just drastically different. But in practice, at least at this moment in time, in most 1st world countries, if you carry a LTE/GSM phone you are pretty much guaranteed to be connected to a network, the catch is if this is the most optimized, or economical means or not for the given area, and roaming limitations etc which are more contractual than technical.

 

[AnTiGoD]

In addition to what others have posted, here's a good summary table:

https://www.techwalls.com/iphone-x-models-a1865-a1901-a1902-differences/
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I see where this is coming from, but it's worth noting that any iPhone 8/X sold in Europe and most of SE Asia other than HK/China has an Intel model that doesn't support CDMA, and there are certainly many "global business travellers" in these regions so I would have to assume that the Intel modem variant does work in all countries to some extent, even if perhaps some particular bands that the Qualcomm modem supports don't work.

Else anyone from Europe or Singapore for example travelling to China or Japan say would not be able to roam using an iPhone, which is obviously not the case.

The difference is basically only when LTE coverage drops, in rural areas in for example China, CDMA is required for 3G/EDGE.

The Intel version will then say: “no service”

 

[midlevels]

The difference is basically only when LTE coverage drops, in rural areas in for example China, CDMA is required for 3G/EDGE.

The Intel version will then say: “no service”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_the_Asia_Pacific_region#China

According to the above on China Unicom for example one should get 2G/3G service with a GSM phone even outside LTE areas. And even China Mobile supports GSM for 2G voice.

 

[twonga]

Toda

Has your order progressed any further or still in processing? Trying to get to a handle on whether any Apple website pre-orders have shipped yet for Hong Kong customers.

Even carriers here have severe shortages of handsets. Some top level priority customers are still waiting which has never happened with any previous iPhone. These are people who would get handsets at or around launch day.

Today it changed to “preparing for shipment” so should be on schedule

edit: Shipped and scheduled to arrive tomorrow (16th)

 

[midlevels]

Toda


Today it changed to “preparing for shipment” so should be on schedule

edit: Shipped and scheduled to arrive tomorrow (16th)

Good news - hope you enjoy it.

Where does it ship from? Zhengzhou or Hong Kong?

With lead times falling to 2-3 weeks internationally, it's getting more and more clear that Apple is just choosing not to fulfill Hong Kong orders in a timely way and stick to promised estimates only while bumping the rest of the world ahead of schedule.

The order I placed on 27th October is still OIP. Is it possible that Hong Kong is the only place in the world where orders placed on the 27th are still OIP?

 

[haruhiko]

I can confirm the iPhone X has much better reception than my previous iPhone 7 Plus in Hong Kong's MTR with the god awful carrier CSL. (My anecdotal experience only, not scientific research) I couldn't get any internet connection in most of the TKO and HK Island Line before in peak hours, and now the connection problem is restricted to one or two stations only.

 

[Chancha]

Some AOS buyers has already gotten their unit shipped in their hands this morning. These guys were supposed to get theirs on Nov 18th but it seems the batch arrived earlier. However, some others who are listed for Nov 18th they still are at "preparing for shipment" stage. It seems supply to HK market is still really limited.

 

[Lokenx]

I got mine last Friday from carrier (CSL) - Silver 256GB, I ordered Space Gray initially they said it's really hard to get space gray right now

 

[Chancha]

Space Grey 256GB is indeed pretty sought after, but today it seems the "grey market" (no pun, lol) price today is already dropping in anticipation of AOS shipments. Yesterday it was 11,500 or so, now its already 10,xxx.

FYI, here is an up to minute website:
http://www.iphonepricehk.com/iphone-x-and-8-price

 

[haruhiko]

Now that the remaining front bezel of both models are black only I couldn't care less about the back. Actually the silver's back looks really nice and the silvery chrome makes me think of the original iPhone up to the 3GS era, with iPhone 4 design elements. Best of both worlds.

 

[midlevels]

Have any of the AOS orders for 2-9 Dec shipped yet?

 

[Elflike22]

Mine's nov 28 to dec 2. No update at all. Still in processing

Have any of the AOS orders for 2-9 Dec shipped yet?